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AndChat|688961 I think i just got this razor the sharpest I've gotten it. 01:37
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araraloren o| 03:44
yoleaux 19 Dec 2017 17:42Z <Zoffix> araraloren: FWIW, here's how IRC::Client reads from an async sock. It just parses what it gets as much as it can and saves left over stuff for the next time some data arrives: github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-IRC-Cl...#L203-L214
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AlexDaniel squashable6: log 04:13
squashable6 AlexDaniel, Log and stats: gist.github.com/691c7eaedbab34d6bd...cb7a3535b4
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Using whitespace between…”: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1291#i...-355723621 05:02
Geth doc: 136acc75ff | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | doc/Language/traps.pod6
Document Foo => 42 trap

Resolves #1721		 05:05
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/traps
Geth doc: 8fd8c8d77a | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | doc/Language/traps.pod6
Fix and explaing .slurp mangling newlines

Resolves #1578, or so I think.
squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “Enums in pair notation trap (Foo => 42)”: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1721
🍕 AlexDaniel++ closed issue “slurp is mangling newlines (trap)”: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1578
AlexDaniel hmhmh unfortunately won't be able to contribute much today 05:07
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AlexDaniel “explaing” :D 05:32
geekosaur ex-playing? 05:35
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Fix spelling
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AlexDaniel geekosaur: ex-apmple!
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Todd Hi All, I did a fresh install of Fedora27 and now one of my pl6's give me ===SORRY!=== This type cannot unbox to a native string: P6opaque, Failure 06:04
I have no idea what to look for
AlexDaniel no line number? 06:05
if so, then try with --ll-exception
Todd that is all I get. I tried putting a proofing print at the top and that did not come out either 06:06
# rpm -qa rakudo rakudo-0.2017.08-2.fc27.x86_64 perl6 -v This is Rakudo version 2017.08 built on MoarVM version 2017.08.1
--ll-exception should that be "all" and where do I put it?
araraloren add to Perl6 command line 06:07
perl6 --ll-exception *.p6
Todd Got it. it is about 30 line. What do I look for
This was the top two lines; 06:10
This type cannot unbox to a native string: P6opaque, Failure at SETTING::src/core/Exception.pm:57 (/usr/lib64/perl6/runtime/CORE.setting.moarvm:throw)
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araraloren Todd, could you paste it in gist ? 06:10
Todd Don't know how to use gist, but I do know how to use vpaste: vpaste.net/WuHL1 06:11
warning: 108 lines long
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araraloren :) Don't know what happened 06:17
geekosaur it's trying to load a module. my guess is that you have modules from a different build that you copied from another machine, and they need to actually be reinstalled rather than simply copied over 06:19
Todd ~.perl6 got copied over from the old machine. Delete it? 06:21
geekosaur (precomp, among other things, stores actual byte offsets to internals and system-installed modules; if those offsets have changed, the precompiled modules will fail to load, the error could be better, though)
move it aside, at least; ytou may need to see what modules you need to reinstall'
araraloren ...
Todd I renamed .perl6. No joy. Wait, let me check /root too 06:23
still no joy. Rats!
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geekosaur not sure if there are things living elsewhere. the other possibility is that F26 is shipping with bad precomps somehow 06:25
er F27
Todd I am carving up my pl6 and reproducing. I will know the culprit in a few minutes 06:27
Ha! Found the culprit: use CurlUtils; Now to see what it is complaining about 06:29
Found two stinkers: `use Net::SMTP;` and `use Email::MIME;` 06:34
I jsut zef'ed them minutes ago too!
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Todd my test code: 06:35
#!/usr/bin/env perl6 # CurlUtils.pm6 # use Net::SMTP; # use Email::MIME; use RunNoShell; # qx[ RunNoShell ] use Terminal::ANSIColor; # qx[ color ]; use eMailDate; # qx[ eMailDate ];
what do i search for to see if I have more than one of these two kicking around? 06:36
find / -iname \*net\* | grep -i smtp 06:37
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todd Some weird happened to my internet and I got kicked off. Ddi someone write my about Net::SMTP and email:MIME ? 06:40
Geth doc: 1fcadcc8af | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/traps.pod6
Document …^ vs. … ^ trap

Addresses github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1291		 06:44
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/traps
squashable6 🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by zoffixznet++! ♥
🍕 zoffixznet++ wrote a comment on “Using whitespace between…”: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1291#i...-355727837
🍕 zoffixznet++ closed issue “Using whitespace between…”: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1291
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squashable6 🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Using whitespace between…”: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1291#i...-355728131 06:52
todd I did a 07:00
./zef uninstall Email::MIME and a ./zef install Email::MIME no joy and this is weird, `find / -iname \*email\* | grep -i mime` and is only found stuff like this: `p6-Email-MIME.git` 07:02
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todd weird. find is not finding any of my other modules either 07:06
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todd where are my modules suppose to be located? 07:09
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todd Got it figured out. I am going to write it up for the next two machines I need to support and for a Red Hat bugzilla report. Would yo guys like to see the write up? 07:35
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Zoffix todd: sure! 07:40
Also, modules are stored inside hashed things and not by filename
(I think they're precompiled on install)
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Zoffix sweet 07:44
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moritz \o 07:45
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todd Here it is in all tis glory! 07:56
bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1531855
<editorial comment> why Fedora packages rakudo and zef separately is beyond me. rakudo-pkg-Fedora27 included zef in its rpm, so should Fedora. It would get rid of old zef's being mixed with new. </editorial comment> 07:59
Oh Red hat is so going to "WON'T FIX" this one: 08:02
bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1531856
Please package zef with rakudo 08:03
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Zoffix todd: kinda confusing reports. zef doesn't come with rakudo. It comes with rakudo star 08:03
todd Thank you all for the help in chasing this down. The hint was revision conflict. Fedora's Rakudo is just broken. 08:04
take a peek inside
github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/releas...x86_64.rpm
it comes with it
Zoffix todd: those RPMs are made by a 3rd party volunteer. 08:05
todd That must explain why they work and the official release does not. :'(
Zoffix todd: these are basically the only deliverables made by the core team: rakudo.perl6.org/downloads/ most users should use Rakudo Star
===SORRY!=== 08:07
This type cannot unbox to a native string: P6opaque, Failure
todd wonder why fedora is using plain rakudo. I was following suite
Zoffix todd: ^ and that could be a rakudo bug even. Are you still able to reproduce that? Can you run with perl6 --ll-exception flag?
todd Can't reproduce it anymore. It is fixed. Do you still have that vpaste I make. I lost it. It would be good to add to the bug report. 08:08
Zoffix todd: it might be using plain rakudo because there *are* monthly release of the compiler-only (and the confusion being witnessed right now is why we don't publicize those too much). Rakudo Star releases, by comparion, are done once every three months
This one I'm guessing: vpaste.net/WuHL1 08:09
Yeah... I'm not familiar with the part of the codebase it's referencing... 08:10
todd That's the one. Thak you
I just did a `dnf whatprovides rakudo-star' and got back "rakudo-star = 0.0.2017.06-1.fc2" Wow. they are using Fedora 26's spin in 27 and it is way out of date. 08:11
Zoffix huggable: star
huggable Zoffix, Estimated Rakudo Star releases for 2017: .01, .04, .07 & .10
Zoffix todd: hm, weird version number too. There ain't not 2017.06 rakudo star 08:12
These are all we got: rakudo.perl6.org/downloads/star/
Wonder if they're too confusing our compiler releases for rakudo star releases
todd Me thinks... What?? I can think! I just can't spell... Me thinks I will stick with github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/releases for now. There is something that doesn't smell right over at Fedora 08:17
Zoffix cool 08:18
todd Fedora has this is their 27 repo too: rakudo-star = 0.0.2017.08-1.fc26 But as you said only .01, .04, .07 & .10. Something is seriously off. 08:20
Oh you know what. I goofed. I have an ssh terminal open on Fedora 26 machine doign some upgrades. I did the whatprovides on it, whicfh explains the fc26. I redid in on a FC27 machine and rakudo-star is not even support on 27. 08:23
Zoffix :)
todd I absolute adore Perl 6 (I come from Perl5 and years ago Modula 2, what a culture shift!). I wish Fedora would get on board asap. But I do have somewhre else to go, so I shouldn't complain and just be grateful 08:24
I started with P5 to replace all the stuff I did in bash and then got into p5 big time. P6 is a real nice clean up, especially the subroutines. I program in Top Down and I live and die in subs. The P5 guys must have just been tired when they put the subs together. 08:26
Just stumbled across another weird one. 08:34
===SORRY!=== Failed to create directory '/home/linuxutil/.precomp/6A0100E73A9E0630ECFBF4CBF870A4533AB71A3F.1511306550.98398/96' with mode '0o777': Failed to mkdir: 13
I am not making any directories! 08:35
Line 13 is commented out!
moritz it looks like 13 is the error code, not the line number 08:36
todd mv .precomp .precomp.000
Zoffix That's not line 13. It's errno. Permission denied
todd fixed it. Hold over from my old machine
moritz btw there is a nice trick in Perl 5 for converting error numbers to error messages
$ perl -wE '$! = 13; say $!' 08:37
Zoffix just runs `errno 13` :)
todd I think this is one of those M$ error where it ways one thing and means something else. 08:38
El_Che todd: github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg <-- up to date pkgs 08:39
todd Boy I am really tripping across stuff today. I really, really appreciate you guys help!
That is where I way, just one directory deeper. It would be nice if they had a repo. 08:40
Zoffix .ask jnthn pondering R#1368 and looking at `callstatic` and `chain` ops in src/vm/moar/QAST/QASTOperationsMAST.nqp. Seems like we can have `chainstatic` op and gain some perf in chains with static ops, no? Does that sound sane? 08:43
yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to jnthn.
synopsebot R#1368 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/1368 "42 < $a < 666" should be faster than "42 < $a && $a < 666", but is 2x as slow
Zoffix drops to bed
.tell jnthn FWIW, I realize the exact code in R#1368 could be constant-folded, I'm thinking of wider options 08:44
yoleaux Zoffix: I'll pass your message to jnthn.
El_Che todd: I plan to add repo's later, but because the pkgs have no dependencies it's not urgent ;) 08:47
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todd Awesome! Do you have an "annouce" newsletter I can sign up for? (Love the way you include zef.) 08:50
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todd El_Che? Any announce newsletter? 08:57
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moritz if El_Che tweets it, twitter.com/perl6org will retweet it 09:20
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lizmat do we already have something like a "How to port a Perl 5 Module to Perl 6" guide in the documentation>? 10:52
I guess the 5to6-xxx pages are a start ? 10:53
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DrForr Hadn't seen it around when I was looking a while back, but that of ourse was a while back. 10:55
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araraloren_ Can I access MAIN function in a module ? 11:15
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DrForr m: module Foo { BEGIN{MAIN()}; }; sub MAIN() {say "called"}; 11:19
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Whitespace required after keyword 'BEGIN'
at <tmp>:1
------> 3module Foo { BEGIN7⏏5{MAIN()}; }; sub MAIN() {say "called"};
DrForr m: module Foo { BEGIN {MAIN()}; }; sub MAIN() {say "called"}; 11:20
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared name:
MAIN used at line 1
araraloren_ m: module Foo { &MAIN(); }; sub MAIN() {say "called"};
camelia called
called
DrForr Probably just a namespace issue.
araraloren_ I do test like that
DrForr Well, there you go.
araraloren_ but can not do that in the real module
DrForr So what are you doing in the "real module" that makes that not work? 11:24
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araraloren_ just make a wrap for MAIN function 11:32
DrForr, really simple
I try declare MAIN with `our`, not work too
DrForr Could you put what you have in a gist so I can see it? 11:34
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araraloren_ Hmm, ok 11:35
DrForr I'm doing this because what you say is "Just make a wrap" has a bunch of possible interpretations, and it's easier for me to see the code than play the guessing game of "Did they mean this..." 11:36
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araraloren_ Hmm, I not a newbie :) 11:37
In the module file, just `say &MAIN;` not working, and `say &::("GLOBAL::MAIN");` not working too 11:38
DrForr I know that, and I don't mean to sound insulting. It's just that the language lends itself to many ways of achieving a task, and I don't want to run through the list of what I know works only to find out what you mean is something completely different. 11:39
araraloren_ DrForr, I want access the MAIN sub , and make a wrapper for it, so I can run my code before MAIN, and do somethign with the MAIN signature
DrForr Again, can you please put actual code up, so I don't hae to guess what your module looks like?
araraloren_ gist.github.com/araraloren/816c3c8...689f60c502 11:43
Here you go DrForr
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DrForr Well, it's a fragment, but I'll try to interpolate what I can, one mo. 11:46
araraloren_ okay, dinner time :P 11:47
DrForr I also note that your module has a ::MAIN of its own, this may cause a... sigh.
Also do you mean module or class? 11:48
araraloren_ module class ? 11:49
DrForr Perl 6 has both modules and classes, and since your code fragment doesn't tell me what this is in, I can't tell what you mean. 11:50
araraloren_ Hmm, how about without that ?
not a module or class
DrForr In fact I can't tell if this is a BEGIN block, a subroutine, a module or even a new() method. 11:51
araraloren_ just in that file
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DrForr I'm perfectly fine with helping, I don't mind in the least. I just don't need to play guessing games, especially if you're going to head out for dinner. Can you please post a single file, complete with module{} or class{}, methods and subs, that you want to make work? 11:52
araraloren_ ok, wait a mo 11:53
DrForr I don't mean to sound like a prima donna, I simply need more information than I have.
araraloren_ expirebox.com/download/172387c5977...ae532.html 11:59
I make a simple example
I will check out after dinner 12:00
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El_Che DrForr: "I don't want to sound like a prime donna" is the type of things a prima donna says :) 12:42
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bioexpress p6: say 3; 13:44
camelia 3
bioexpress test: p6: say "hello";
p6: sub r { my @a = <a b c>; return @a }; my @b = r(); 13:46
camelia ( no output )
bioexpress Hello, does this routine return the array as a copy or as a reference?
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jnthn It returns it as a reference, however assignment into an array is copying 13:49
yoleaux 08:43Z <Zoffix> jnthn: pondering R#1368 and looking at `callstatic` and `chain` ops in src/vm/moar/QAST/QASTOperationsMAST.nqp. Seems like we can have `chainstatic` op and gain some perf in chains with static ops, no? Does that sound sane?
synopsebot R#1368 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/1368 "42 < $a < 666" should be faster than "42 < $a && $a < 666", but is 2x as slow
yoleaux 08:44Z <Zoffix> jnthn: FWIW, I realize the exact code in R#1368 could be constant-folded, I'm thinking of wider options
jnthn So the end result is that @b is an independent array from @a
(Same with my @b = @a, in fact)
.tell Zoffix A chainstatic op would be reasonable, yes 13:50
yoleaux jnthn: I'll pass your message to Zoffix.
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bioexpress So this could be faster? 13:59
p6: sub r { my $a = <a b c>; return $a }; my $b = r();
camelia ( no output )
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araraloren_ p6: sub r { my @a = <a b c>; return @a }; my @b = r(); say now - BEGIN now 14:00
camelia 0.00790691
araraloren_ p6: sub r { my $a = <a b c>; return $a }; my $b = r(); say now - BEGIN now 14:01
camelia 0.007993
bioexpress This is a small list.
araraloren_ （￣▽￣） I think they are no difference 14:02
bioexpress p6: sub r { my @a = 'aaaaaaaaaa' .. 'zzzzzzzzzz'; return @a }; my @b = r(); 14:04
camelia (timeout)
bioexpress sub r { my @a = 'aaaa' .. 'zzzz'; return @a }; my @b = r(); say now - BEGIN now 14:05
araraloren_ m: say 'aaaa' ... 'zzzz' 14:07
camelia (aaaa aaab aaac aaad aaae aaaf aaag aaah aaai aaaj aaak aaal aaam aaan aaao aaap aaaq aaar aaas aaat aaau aaav aaaw aaax aaay aaaz aaba aabb aabc aabd aabe aabf aabg aabh aabi aabj aabk aabl aabm aabn aabo aabp aabq aabr aabs aabt aabu aabv aabw aabx …
araraloren_ m: say 'aaaa' .. 'zzzz'
camelia "aaaa".."zzzz"
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bioexpress p6: sub r { my $a = [ 'aa' .. 'zz' ]; return $a }; my $b = r(); say now - BEGIN now 14:09
camelia 0.0348510
bioexpress p6: sub r { my @a = 'aa' .. 'zz'; return @a }; my @b = r(); say now - BEGIN now 14:10
camelia 0.04112563
bioexpress p6: sub r { my @a = 'aa' .. 'zz'; return @a }; my @b = r(); say now - BEGIN now
camelia 0.0409084
bioexpress p6: sub r { my $a = [ 'aa' .. 'zz']; return $a }; my $b = r(); say now - BEGIN now
camelia 0.0626457
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Fix broken links
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squashable6 🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by dogbert17++! ♥
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Herby_ o/ everyone 15:23
comborico1611 Hey 15:24
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moritz \o 15:40
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comborico1611 What do y'all think of a feature to toggle from concise error messaging to verbose error messaging? 15:45
moritz in which context? 15:46
comborico1611 For example, some people prefer a concise error message, while others prefer more detail. So for Rakudo Star, there could be some command to toggle to your preference. 15:48
moritz that's why our error messages tend to deliver the most relevant information in the first line, and you can ignore the rest if that's enough 15:54
so, I think it's not worth the effort
comborico1611 I see. I won't be able to judge that until I have many hours of experience with P6. 15:55
But that makes sense.
Moritz, how difficult do you think it would be for P6 to assume the role of PHP in Web Development? 15:56
By "assume the role" I don't mean to compete against it or take-over it's place. I just mean, if I am a freelance web developer, would it be difficult to integrate P6 with Apache and MySQL? 15:57
moritz not really; MySQL support is already there, and the modern way to integrate with Apache or nginx is to have a stand-alone server, and have apache/nginx be a reverse proxy 15:58
comborico1611 Was Web Development in-mind when P6 was designed? 15:59
Or is kind of "stretching" it? 16:00
or is that stretching it*
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moritz Web development is not a stretch for Perl 6, nor for any other modern, general-purpose language 16:01
comborico1611 I see. 16:02
andrzejku araraloren_ hey :) 16:03
moritz comborico1611: github.com/Bailador/Bailador might interest you
comborico1611 Thanks!
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comborico1611 I'm writing the ugliest calculator for seconds I can imagine. 16:21
I'm learning stuff, though.
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Nanjizal On a mac it keeps on wanting to use perl 5. When I try to run prove it gives me error. 16:27
No tests named and 't' directory not found at /System/Library/Perl/5.18/App/Prove.pm line 528.
DrForr prove -e'perl6 -Ilib' # the '-Ilib' is extra, but recommended.
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Nanjizal I managed to run some hangman fine doing perl6 hangman.p6 but when I tried to do it from textmate even after I added a TM_PERL parameter it would not work and complained. But now I am trying to run the stuff here github.com/perl6/gtk-simple 16:30
But I think mac's have perl 5 preinstalled so half the time it will use that what ever you tell the terminal 16:32
I probably should not change the mac perl version 16:33
moritz perl5 and perl6 are separate installations
DrForr I don't use TextMate - All I can say is to look at github.com/textmate/perl.tmbundle - there's a Perl 6 .tmbundle file there.
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DrForr Nanjizal: There is probably an 'Application Helper' or 'Launch' setting in the UI somewhere that tells it what application to launch a given script with. That's what you have to find and change. 16:36
Nanjizal pastebin.com/QJqGQ7eY
comborico1611 The code is coming alive!
I thought it was going to be very ugly and confusing, but it is just verbose.
Nanjizal I commented out my user name to **** 16:37
But as I said with hangman.p6 it seems to work from terminal directly. It was just more problematic with gtk-simple which I believe is setup for perl6 16:38
DrForr Nanjizal: It's using a Perl 5 .tmbundle resource, not the Perl 6 .tmbundle.
Er, I take that bak. 16:39
*back
Nanjizal The bottom of the textmate has detected it as Perl 6 code.
DrForr The Perl stuff I can see has both perl 5 and 6 jammed together in the same .tmbundle file, there's probably something else that needs to be configured. 16:40
Nanjizal I have point TM_PERL to the applications/Rakudo/.... before that it was picking up perl 5
but I can live with building/compiling it on the terminal at moment. I was trying to just run the github.com/perl6/gtk-simple/blob/m...md#testing from terminal and that does not work 16:42
$ prove -e "perl6 -Ilib" 16:43
No tests named and 't' directory not found at /System/Library/Perl/5.18/App/Prove.pm line 528.
DrForr That means there are no tests to run, so you're running the command in the wrong directory. 16:44
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DrForr 'prove' is meant to run your test scripts automatically. If you don't have any scripts to run, then 'prove' won't do what you want. 16:44
Nanjizal why would it say 5.18 16:45
moritz prove is a Perl 5 tool
Perl 6 uses the same testing protocol as Perl 5
DrForr Because App::prove is a Perl 5 binary that you're using to run a perl 6 test suite.
moritz testanything.org/
DrForr It just happens to be able to launch Perl 6 when need be, that's what the '-e' flag does. 16:46
Nanjizal How do I get to the right directory if I have installed per instruction ? zef install GTK::Simple
DrForr zef should have already run the tests for you. 16:47
moritz zef install runs the tests for you
Nanjizal Well I feel a bit lost if I want to see this code running github.com/perl6/gtk-simple/blob/m...andler.pl6 and then modify it how would I go about that? 16:49
DrForr Clone the repository and run the example. 16:50
Nanjizal Oh ok will do :)
DrForr You can probably find the directory in .perl6 but I wouldn't bother.
Changing stuff there would muck with the actual Perl 6 code, it's safer to work from a cloned repo so you don't accidentally mess up what's installed. 16:51
Nanjizal MoarVM panic: Internal error: Unwound entire stack and missed handler 17:03
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Nanjizal some work but Cairo one fails with this message. I check Cairo is installed under brew 17:03
Quite exciting to see some visual stuff working though 17:04
github.com/perl6/gtk-simple/blob/m...andler.pl6
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Nanjizal Cairo one is most intresting because it's not just forms but actual graphics 17:05
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DrForr Don't forget to file a bug report :) 17:11
Nanjizal Well it's my first look at perl so difficult to know if it's something I am doing wrong. 17:13
I am wondering, it seems that wrapping c++ is not too hard with Perl 6? 17:14
timotimo Nanjizal: i can help with that, it's my project and my example code
Nanjizal the Cairo one was not working.
timotimo "unwound entire stack and missed handler" is usually when you give a callback to a C library via nativecall, and the callback throws any exception
Nanjizal it's cloned repository running on mac
timotimo because it's impossible to unwind over the C portion of the stack that lives between the interpreter (where the C function was invoked) and the inner interpreter (where the callback is being interpreted) 17:15
Nanjizal I have not changed your code I may have renamed the file to something storter that's all
timotimo that's fine, the code is almost a year untouched :) 17:16
DrForr Nanjizal: What he's saying is that figuring out *what* callback is failing would help. Is there more in the stacktrace?
Nanjizal Not the way I am runnning it
is there optional args I should to get more verbose 17:17
timotimo the worst is when the C function calls your callback with a different signature than you expect, because no CATCH you can put into your code can catch that 17:18
DrForr It's probably not going to help in this case. Can you add a 'die;' to the code somewhere to see how far it gets before the callback dies?
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timotimo dang, on my system the gtk cairo-draw-handler example script runs fine 17:18
Nanjizal you cloned the repository from scratch? 17:19
timotimo no, but the checkout is clean 17:20
can you clone the cairo repository, github.com/timo/cairo-p6.git and run its tests with perl6 -I . t/blah?
ok, looks like there's only one test 17:21
oh, no, six
Nanjizal I tried die; it dies at the end!
so am I right in thinking that these pm6 files are wrapping the c++ code ie: docs.perl6.org/language/nativecall 17:22
timotimo i was convinced i had pulled newest from cairo, but i hadn't!
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timotimo the gtk example still works 17:24
Nanjizal So pm6 files are kind of like 'externs' are in Haxe. I am wondering do you think it would be feasible to wrap Kore ? 17:25
github.com/Kode/Kore/tree/master/Sources/Kore
Because that would be really powerful for Perl 6 for graphics. 17:26
timotimo opengl and directx? is it kind of like SDL2?
Nanjizal No it recompile the shaders for the platform. 17:27
So on mac it can use metal
I normally use it via Kha and Haxe.
it has js stuff as well but the Kore is the C++ stuff
timotimo right, SDL2 offers graphics primitives that use anything that's available
Nanjizal No it's lower level 17:28
timotimo hg.libsdl.org/SDL/file/4f3cdd0a5768/src/render
OK
Nanjizal kha.tech/
You can code for mobile or whatever directly in Kore but I would use Kha 17:29
But if it's not too hard to wrap it might be really nice graphics api 17:30
timotimo cool. you can check out the nativecall c++ test files in rakudo's t/ folder
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sum how to see the documentation of a built-in-function in Perl 6 REPL? If I want to see doc for unique function/method how to dee in the REPL? 17:33
rakudo: help(unique) 17:35
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared routine:
help used at line 1
sum rakudo: ?unique 17:36
camelia WARNINGS for <tmp>:
Useless use of "?" in expression "?unique" in sink context (line 1)
timotimo sum: unfortunately we don't have the docs available in the repl for any of the core functions and classes 17:38
otherwise you can just &something.WHY
DrForr sum: perl5 has 'perldoc -f' that can be leveraged, not sure what (if any) equivalent perl6 has for that; I'm afraid it might be trawling the HTML.
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sum Actually I was going through this Python tutorial www.coursera.org/learn/learn-to-pr...-functions and was wondering if Perl 6 has similar help system 17:39
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sum In R too www.r-project.org/ they have help in REPL so I was wondering if we had similar help system 17:40
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sum rakudo: &unique.WHY 17:41
camelia ( no output )
sum rakudo: unique.WHY 17:42
camelia ( no output )
sum timotimo: Interactive help system would have been nice 17:43
geekosaur r: say &unique.WHY
camelia No documentation available for type 'Sub'.
Perhaps it can be found at docs.perl6.org/type/Sub
»
timotimo i agree 17:44
geekosaur it doesn''t automatically do a "say" because we found a bunch of problems with things in sink context and needed to be able to debug them easily, so default is sink context
timotimo it'd probably be a nice beginner or intermediate project to get help into the REPL if p6doc is installed 17:45
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sum timotimo: Can't it be done now? I mean interactive help system like R and Python. We don't have to go and find help in browser if it can be done in REPL !! 17:47
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timotimo what i'm suggesting would not need the browser 17:47
DrForr sum: Yes, it can be done, patch the REPL to allow a 'desc' function. Sorry that it's not there already, but shelling out to p6doc wouldn't be too hard. 17:48
sum rakudo: p6doc unique 17:51
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared routine:
p6doc used at line 1
sum rakudo: p6doc @.unique
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable @.unique used where no 'self' is available
at <tmp>:1
------> 3p6doc @.unique7⏏5<EOL>
expecting any of:
argument list
term
sum rakudo: p6doc Str.unique 17:52
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared routine:
p6doc used at line 1
geekosaur sum, that is not a shell, p6doc is a shell command
which is why "shell out to"
DrForr zef install p6doc ; p6doc func-name 17:53
sum geekosaur: I wanted to do in the REPL.
DrForr sum: Yes, we're saying it's not there yet, but would be simple to add. 17:54
geekosaur yes, and you are expecting it rewrote itself into being Python because that's what you want and therefore a natural law of the universe
sum DrForr: Alright then I have to exit the REPL and go to shell
geekosaur people have been telling you for the past 5 minutes that it is *not*
DrForr sum: Or switch to another terminal. Or send a PR for the REPL. 17:55
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sum DrForr geekosaur Thanks 17:57
timotimo sum you don't have to exit the repl to get to the terminal, there is ctrl-z 17:58
geekosaur some of the machinery is there already, the rest needs to be implemented. the REPL doesn't get enough attention and has a number of problems even as it is (for example some scoping issues) 17:59
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Remove all mentions of Perl 5

Well, actually leaving a lot of them still in. Very often it is justified (obviously 100% of perl 5 mentions in 5to6 documents are).
Resolves #1705.		 19:23
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AlexDaniel huh
ah… I see 19:46
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Zoffix So I finally got annoyed enough by lack of highlights in GitHub's markdown on perl6 code blocks to see what the hell is up.... The likely cause? "Rename Perl6 to Perl 6" github.com/github/linguist/issues/3671 19:52
El_Che :) 19:53
Zoffix++
Zoffix Which makes it that you need to write ```perl 6``` instead of ```perl6``` in markdown, BUT that detects it as "perl" and highlights with the wrong language
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Zoffix And this was broken since August and no one apparently gave two bits about it, since I re-read the caching comment and it states that cache would've cleared when new changes in repo happen
AlexDaniel I've seen a lot of people struggling with it actually 19:55
Zoffix This having-a-name-with-mandatory-space-in-it is more than aesthetic
Oh, sorry, &nbsp; in it
El_Che so, the solution is ```perl&nbsp6``` ? 19:56
dat sucks 19:57
AlexDaniel :D
I think "Perl 6" was attempted, but it didn't work (?) github.com/spitsh/spitsh/commit/9b...abd39429e8
Zoffix <Zoffix> […] BUT that detects it as "perl" and highlights with the wrong language 19:58
AlexDaniel right
well my point was about using the quotes 19:59
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andrzejku hey do you remember the guy who had started write llvm perl6 compiler? 20:03
I had once his code
here
Zoffix Filed github.com/github/linguist/issues/3976 20:09
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comborico1611 How do you search PATH for a specific program? 20:25
mspo which program 20:26
comborico1611 mysql
mspo :)
geekosaur I think they want the perl 6 version, bot the (bad, btw) bash one
*not the 20:27
(use "type" or you may be seeing what the next shell will see, not what *yours* sees)
comborico1611 "type mysql" ?
Kubuntu 17 comes packaged with mySQL and it conflicts with my XAMPP in PATH 20:28
mspo which(1) is a program
although I enjoy "who's on first"
geekosaur comborico1611, yes
mspo in perl6 you'd have to do something like split the ENV[PATH] on : and grep over it 20:29
as in, perl grep
geekosaur *please* do not fall into the linux trap of using which(1)
and if you'd giove be a chance instead of spreading bad shell juju, it's on $*SPEC somewhere
moritz github.com/azawawi/perl6-file-which 20:30
comborico1611 Are y'all implying that P6 can be used as a replacement for Bash? 20:31
mspo you can implement the which command in perl6 20:32
comborico1611 Oh.
geekosaur hm, could have sworn there was a predefined one these days 20:33
mspo I think perl6 could be used to write a shell too
comborico1611 So "type mysql" produces /usr/bin/mysql
I tried to open mysql with Kate, but it isn't a text.
I'm not sure what to do from here.
moritz what do you want to achieve? 20:34
geekosaur if you really wanted to, you could probably get away with using it as a shell. I would not recommend oit. (the old warning for "m4 -e" comes to mind, but linux removed it so I suppose that means it never existed...)
comborico1611 Just delete mysql?
geekosaur comborico1611, no
what is your actual problem
mysql is a binary executable, not text. it is also probably required by other things, so removing it will probably break something else
comborico1611 I need to replace Kubuntu's packaged mysql in $PATH with XAMPP's mysql
geekosaur then change $PATH to point to XAMPP's first
comborico1611 I see.
If I just add it to $PATH, will it automatically be first? 20:35
or is there some other step to make it first?
geekosaur export PATH="<the path tot he dir containing the right mysql>:$PATH"
comborico1611 Isn't export only temporary? 20:36
geekosaur you also have to put that command in your shell's startup file
but putting it there does not run it in your currently open shells
comborico1611 etc/profile
mspo you might want to read some docs on using unix
geekosaur there is no magic that adds it to both
no, *your* shell startup, boit the systemwide one
not the
~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile
comborico1611 Hmm. Okay. 20:37
moritz or, like, follow the instructions for the stuff you're currently installing
geekosaur the system does not consist solely of the shell you are typing into. changing things systemwide based on what your current environment needs can break your system
comborico1611 Moritz, mmm. I think I'm doing that. 20:38
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comborico1611 XAMPP's instructions are litterally two steps: chmod and ./program. 20:40
And I quote, "That's all. XAMPP is now installed below the /opt/lampp directory.
geekosaur somewhere in there, there has to be something telling you how to run if afterward 20:42
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comborico1611 I bet that is the most said thing on IRC throughout all it's year: "Just read the instructions". 20:45
I'm sure much of it was warranted. But you have to admit that unless you begin learning computers in the 1970s, there is a bunch of stuff to learn. 20:46
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Zoffix What's the pure-p6 way for this? 20:47
m: use nqp; sub foo { bar }; sub bar { say nqp::getlexcaller('$meows') }; { my $meows = 'foos'; foo }
camelia foos
comborico1611 Like I'm trying to learn Web Development, for instance. But because I'm going the PHP/Apache/MySQL route, I must also learn bash and unix.
Zoffix Can't figure out how to put CALLER:: into a variable and then lookup the next CALLER:: from it
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Zoffix m: sub foo { bar }; sub bar { say CALLER::CALLER::<$meows> }; { my $meows = 'foos'; foo } 20:48
camelia Cannot access '$meows' through CALLER, because it is not declared as dynamic
in sub bar at <tmp> line 1
in sub foo at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix Huh, weird. I don't get that error if $meows is exported into caller via sub EXPORT
m: BEGIN '/tmp/dyncall'.IO.mkdir.add('DYN.pm6').spurt: ｢sub EXPORT { Map.new: ('$meows' => 'foos', '&foo' => sub { CALLER::<$meows> }) }｣; use lib </tmp/dyncall>; use DYN; say foo 20:55
camelia foos
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Zoffix Looks like the detection only exists when the return value is a Hash 20:55
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TimToady m: sub foo { bar }; sub bar { say CALLER::CALLER::<$meows> }; { my $meows is dynamic = 'foos'; foo } 20:59
camelia foos
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Zoffix hm.. right... all I get is just a dynamic variable
TimToady if we don't require 'is dynamic', we can't do much local optimization on the varialble
Zoffix goes back to the drawing board
TimToady since we don't know which variables a callee might depend on 21:01
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Zoffix Kinda want `use Foo` to export a dynamic variable and routines and those routines to use that variable, but to have that limited to the compunit. so if module A does `use Foo` and module B does `use Foo` module B gets its own variable, even if other routines it export that use Foo's routines are called by A 21:02
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mspo comborico1611: are you wanting to do perl6 web dev? 21:04
comborico1611: but yes, it helps to know how to *use* a computer when trying to write programs and operate them
Zoffix More precisely: `use Config::JSON "some-file.json"; say jconf "key";` to use data from "some-file.json". But if some other comp unit in the same program does `use Config::JSON "some-other-file.json"` then for `jconf` inside that comp unit to use "some-other-file.json" 21:05
mspo comborico1611: unfortunately using a computer used to be something that was taught to people but now everyone assumes facebook taught them everything
idk
geekosaur judging by about 6 channels so far today, that's unnecessary and unwanted. everything should require zero thought.
comborico1611 Heh. I come from Compac Presario days in the mid 1990s. I was a child then. 21:06
mspo, I'm not sure if I'm bright enough (or have enough time) to get Web Development done with P6. I say this because things like XAMPP already have everything laid-out for the developer.
AlexDaniel awwaiid: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/1247 ? :)
mspo comborico1611: if you say so 21:07
comborico1611 mspo, which book would you recommend on how to learn UNIX? (or anyone else can chime-in) 21:08
geekosaur yes, downloading it downloads php and mysql into your brain too
mspo books by Evi Nemeth
comborico1611 In addition, there are many books about PHP and Web Development. How many books are there about P6 and Web Development? 21:09
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comborico1611 I need books. I don't learn well by scrapping-around for info online.
Alright. I'll check Nemeth out. 21:10
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mspo I also got a lot of milage out of just looking up every command in /bin and /sbin 21:13
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comborico1611 I"m just now realizing there are commands in bin and sbin. 21:14
Zoffix Solved my thing using: sub EXPORT ($conf = 'config.json') { { '&jconf' => &jconf.assuming($conf) } }
Zoffix
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mspo comborico1611: you have a long way to go 21:15
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comborico1611 Ha. How did you know there were commands in there? 21:15
In other words, how did you get started learning UNIX? How old are you? 21:16
mspo I started using unix from a dial up ISP when the internet was first starting
I learned by first unix commands by using ftp
comborico1611 80s or 90s?
mspo 90's
comborico1611 This was as a hobby? 21:17
mspo but i was writing dos batch scripts and using that command line too
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mspo <shrug> it was just part of my life
comborico1611 Did you have a Compac Presario?
geekosaur just poked around a lot, and looked for docs on anything found 21:18
this seems to be a lost art
comborico1611 I remember going into Sears and seeing their Computer Section. Back then a screen saver was like a game.
geekosaur, I don't think I have the mental ability to learn that way. 21:19
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mspo compaq and no I had an IBM PS/1 tower
comborico1611: I got OS/2 Warp 4 for christmas one year
comborico1611 Did you get it from Sears?
mspo from Dillards
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comborico1611 You know, my Presario could have come from Dillards. 21:19
I don't remember which.
geekosaur that's not mental ability, really. my mom was convinced of that as well... then she learned to do it. from watching me, basically. 21:20
pmurias comborico1611: I learned UNIX and Perl from a books when I was a kid
s/a//
mspo I installed FreeBSD 2.something on it from CD ROMS that I got for free from a local computer/book store
geekosaur it's not lack of ability, it's self-doubt
mspo and then since I could no longer play sim city I reinstalled DOS
pmurias comborico1611: I guess there are plenty of UNIX books (even online in PDF form) 21:21
geekosaur if anything, it's easier these days: install vbox, install something in it. shut down vbox and copy the vm. then restart vbox and play around
mess something up? shut down and copy your backup back over it
mspo yeah I was constantly installing operating systems on our family's only computer
comborico1611 geekosaur, could be. I'm on a time-constraint, though. I need to get a job before this summer. It must be computing due to a disease I suffer from.
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mspo and had to get it fixed by the next day or someone would be angry 21:21
comborico1611 That's back when a good Start-up Floppy Disk was like gold. 21:22
mspo a lot of programmers don't know how to use computers
do you know how to use windows? 21:23
comborico1611 geekosaur, so I bring up time-constraints because fishing-around for info is much much slower than a good book.
I haven't used Windows in years.
mspo you've been running linux for years? 21:24
comborico1611 I got away from computers for like 15 years.
mspo oh
comborico1611 Probably 10 years.
Ubuntu-only.
I tried Red Hat, back in the early 2000s. I couldn't get it installed.
I wanted to be a programmer in the 8th grade. I bought a C++ book. 21:25
geekosaur I'm not sure linux has improved that much since then :)
comborico1611 I finished that book the beginning of this summer.
moritz geekosaur: it has
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comborico1611 Ubuntu is so good. VERY user friendly. 21:25
moritz you install it on a laptop. Out of the box, hardware 3D graphics and wifi works 21:26
geekosaur [06 21:26:06] <Sequell> linley henzell[6/7]: Henzell discussing his programming ability: "You see, I gave up on Borland's [C++] manual (which is very good, I'm just lazy) when it started talking about pointers [....] After pointers came structs, enums, pragmas, classes, macros, and a whole lot of other stuff which still means nothing to me."
comborico1611 I remember the first time I saw Ubuntu boot-up. I was at a university and some guy started his laptop.
moritz nearly unthinkable 10 years ago
mspo indeed
I recall manually iterating video settings from my x config file 21:27
after scanning the probe results from the logs
geekosaur moritz, except I installed it on an HP laptop
mspo learning about weird commands like xvidtune
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geekosaur wired network worked. wifi still doesn't. video is dubious. 21:28
("works" at boot time. run the config utility, or plug/unplug a monitor, and it explodes.)
mspo comborico1611: imho the easiest/best way to get a php job is to get really good at wordpress
comborico1611 mspo, (or anyone else) I have this book. Do you think it would suffice for learning UNIX, or is it TOO INDEPTH? www.amazon.com/UNIX-Systems-Progra...nix+system
mspo, thanks! I appreciate the tip! 21:29
geekosaur comborico1611, I would start out by learning how to navigate unix first. as mspo mentioned early, Evi Nemeth's books are good for that
mspo why not just start with W. Richard Stevens (lol)
geekosaur I would expect that particular book to be about advanced C programming.
comborico1611 I actually did that.
geekosaur with Unix APIs
oh, dear. 21:30
comborico1611 lol
geekosaur stevens is where you go for the in-depth details of how unix networking works.
not by any means beginner fare
comborico1611 I can attest to that.
mspo yes I was joking
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mspo Evi Nemeth books are tops 21:31
UNIX Power Tools is a solid classic as well
comborico1611 I hate books with several authors . . .
mspo although a little dated
geekosaur grins
mspo <shrug>
I've read unix power tools and linux admin handbook cover to cover multiple times
of course, it's my career
I have tcp/ip illustrated on a shelf un-read 21:32
comborico1611 Me, too.
lol
geekosaur contributed the section on bsd vs. system V terminal stuff to UPT vol 1. of course by the time it was published, POSIX termios had taken over and it was obsolete >.>
comborico1611 Man, that is rough. 21:33
mspo geekosaur: very tool
geekosaur I had Illustrated on a shelf as well... for others to reference, since I had more or less become the department's reference librarian at that point
mspo geekosaur: UPT was my go-to as a jr sysadmin
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mspo I worked though learning perl during my overnight shift 21:34
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mspo speaking of wordpress, I have a site to setup 21:36
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comborico1611 I'm off. Thanks guys for the feedback! 22:02
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Put “P5” back to glossary

  <lizmat> AlexDaniel: I think the term P5 needs to stay in the
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Unneeded “a“
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Remove overuse of 'So'
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Document EXPORT behaviour with precompilation

  - Toss example of evil hack as it won't work right with precomp
  - Document the precompilation caveat and how to deal with it per
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