-Ofun: xrl.us/hxhk | pugscode.org | pugs.kwiki.org | paste: paste.lisp.org/new/perl6 or sial.org/pbot/perl6
Set by apple-gunkies on 11 November 2005.
svnbot6 r7987 | lwall++ | my needs to work in conditionals and various other contexts 02:56
r7988 | lwall++ | Random cleanup and commentary. Switched to --> notation for type inferencer. 05:46
j0sephi picasa.hu/1132728246-Grootvaderopstap.wmv ;-) :) 06:44
svnbot6 r7989 | gaal++ | S29draft.pod: minor fixes 07:34
r7990 | lwall++ | Added various number tests to align with S02. 08:16
GeJ larry is in the game? wh00t... 08:18
dduncan yes, has been for a few days at least
GeJ well, $work and $holidays went in the way... Have to catch up with what happened during the last 3 weeks... 08:19
Stevan is having a new pet project?
dduncan afaik, his current big project has been going on awhile 08:20
as I recall, he's the big metamodel person
GeJ "Perl6::ObjectSpace"
is this a sub-part of of MM2?
dduncan I suspect that's related to the perl 6 meta-model
said meta-model has multiple implementations, one in perl 5 08:21
I haven't looked at it much 08:22
GeJ oki, last time I checked, stevan made a proposal regarding eigenclasses and such on p6l... the welcome was not as warm as he expected... I have to figure out what happened since then.
dduncan as I recall, the meta-models and/or PIL2 are being merged into pugs now, which is the main change for the 6.28.0 release 08:23
so we have more mature object support 08:24
GeJ is pugs on preflight already? it seems quiet for a boarding time. Maybe it's just the check-in yet? 08:25
dduncan no it isn't, to my knowledge
I imagine a few weeks to go before the release
GeJ oki... well, I guess I'm going to start with the summarizes... then have a look at the MLs. thanks for the info. :) 08:27
svnbot6 r7991 | kane++ | * add dependency syntax 08:40
r7991 | kane++ | * add more suggested tags
r7992 | fglock++ | * /docs/notes/lazyness.txt - added more TODO sections 12:05
wolverian laziness!!! 12:10
GeJ With all this lazyness, I fear that the old joke saying that "@$%$%@$$%$$%@$%$$@%$" is a SMTP daemon in p5 turns into "$" being a full reimplementation of OpenOffice in P6 ;) 12:23
svnbot6 r7993 | scook0++ | * Un-break Haddock.
scook0_ GeJ: well, if P6 steals ideas from everywhere else, why not HQ9+ ? :-P 12:28
Juerd_ GeJ: No, that's sendmail syntax, not Perl 5 :) 12:31
GeJ :)
my mistake, sorry... :) is `cat /dev/urandom | head -n 666 > perl` more accurate for a fully featured implementation of a SMTP server? 12:33
autrijus I think you want | perl 12:34
GeJ mr. A, good evening... yes, I think a pipe would be better indeed...
Juerd_ And because of binary huffman coding, cat /dev/zero | pugs 12:36
:)
webmind although '>' would be just as effective :)
Juerd_ webmind: Certainly for code reuse :) 12:37
webmind or maybe even increase your chances :)
Juerd_ Neat. 12:39
Ik maak voor het eerst stats van een webserver van 'n klantc 12:40
s/c$//
Eh, wrong channel
GeJ Juerd_: are you .nl or .de?
autrijus GeJ: greetings. are you going to be @ german perl workshop? 12:41
GeJ autrijus: do you know where I could find a schedule and a location?
Juerd_ GeJ: .nl 12:42
GeJ hum... good to know, I may have to remember you next time I receive a .nl message I don't understand ;)
autrijus GeJ: www.perl-workshop.de/2006/
GeJ autrijus: if I can find a colleague of mine to help me translate the english page... eventually. Early March, in Bochum's university I assume. 12:44
living in Munich and not being fluent in bavarian german (or in any kind of german for that matter) is not helping. 12:45
sounds like fun... I just hope I'll be able to attend. $work will be busy as hell for the next 6 months. 12:47
autrijus: are you coming back to europe to attend the workshop? 12:49
autrijus GeJ: yes, I'll be @ TelAviv from Feb14 (or so) until end of Feb 12:53
then go to german perl workshop
r0nny yo 13:51
svnbot6 r7994 | rafl++ | r19368@ata: rafl | 2005-11-09 02:29:40 +0100 13:59
r7994 | rafl++ | * tpr article: Removed the reference to pugs-modules package for Debian. pugs
r7994 | rafl++ | depends on it anyway so you don't need to install it explicitly.
rafl Uh? Long time no commit. I made that change weeks ago.. 14:01
r0nny yo rafl
any chages in the pkg tool ?
svnbot6 r7999 | rafl++ | r22085@ata: rafl | 2005-11-23 14:56:42 +0100 14:05
r7999 | rafl++ | * Added a new control tag in S22draft: Enhances.
rafl svnbot6: I'm currently discussing with kane about that. 14:06
Limbic_Region wonders if rafl knows that svnbot6 is a bot ;-)
rafl Limbic_Region: Actually.. yes. 14:08
r0nny: I'm currently discussing with kane about that.
Su-Shee Hi. 14:53
Limbic_Region lo 15:00
stevan GeJ: re: Perl6::Object space,.. you can consider that MM-3.0-Gold Edition 15:18
GeJ stevan: thanks for backlogging :)
stevan GeJ: :)
GeJ: it is an attempt to define some core runtime components for a backend agnositic MM to sit atop 15:19
then of course a re-implementation of the MM using those core components
GeJ so, the integration of P6::OS will tag the 6.28.0 ? 15:20
stevan GeJ: possibly, there is much more thought needed to complete the P6::OS work
I am not sure what autrijus's plans are regarding what will be in 6.28.0 15:21
P6::OS will probably come in a later 6.28.* release 15:22
GeJ hum, okay... really need to get into p6l to see the related threads (as I assume that there are some... no?) 15:23
stevan GeJ: not really, the P6::OS has mostly been discussed here, and in my head :)
it is an implementation detail, so p6l is not interested, it has nothing to do with parrot, so p6i is not interested 15:24
GeJ and since p6c is mostly here... oki, I see.
Note to self: spider the #pugs logs before leaving 15:25
fglock commit #8000 !!! 15:53
svnbot6 r8000 | fglock++ | * /docs/notes/laziness.txt - filename fixed - wolverian++
Limbic_Region wooo hooo 15:58
fglock I've sent a mail to p6l asking if 'say 1..Inf' could output an infinite stream, instead of being an idle loop 16:08
I'm not sure if the list received it 16:10
Limbic_Region it did 16:11
just not answered yet
subject line "Lazy lists in Str context" 16:12
fglock Limbic_Region - ok thanks 16:17
cdpruden hmmm.. so I can call a method from p6 in one file, but not in mine, it seems... 16:45
err, sorry, wrong tab 16:47
gaal Hi! Is there anyone here who considered coming to the hackathon/conference in Israel this coming February, but decided not to due to financial reasons? Please /msg or email me. 17:42
fglock gaal: sure I'd like to go! (Financial reason == good reason) 17:47
btw - I'm organizing YAPC::Brasil::2006 (april) and YAPC::SouthAmerica::2006 (november) - it would be nice if people would be able to come! 17:51
gaal fglock: ACK. note that my question carries no implied promise, unfortunately :) 17:57
(we are still seeking sponsorship) 17:58
kolibrie was thinking gaal had become extremely wealthy 17:59
gaal kolibrie: suuuure, $1M per svn ci :-) 18:00
kolibrie :) 18:01
geoffb decides to start doing piles of trivial checkins ... 18:03
gaal geoffb: great! I'll write tests for them
geoffb heh 18:04
gaal actually no, that's a lot of work. I'll change indentation style, and then change my mind and change it back.
geoffb :-) 18:05
fglock gaal: :) 18:06
xerox Hiya 18:36
What was the zipWith version of ¥ ?
gaal I don't think we have one. 18:39
xerox >>op<< ?
(But I can't find xor, a-la perl5 ^)
gaal hmm, come to think of it hyperops are kinda like zipWith!
xerox Indeed 18:40
(At least that's how I understood it)
gaal xerox: xor like many ops has been rationalized. if you wany bitty xor, do +^
xerox '+[@.+]' xor '[))@_}' :-) 18:41
(Though the difference between string and lists threatens ...) 18:42
gaal ?eval '+[@.+]' ~^ '[))@_}' 18:43
18:43 evalbot_7982 is now known as evalbot_8000
evalbot_8000 "print " 18:43
xerox ~ ?
gaal stringy xor
xerox 'stringy' ? :-)
gaal there's also ?^, booly xor 18:44
xerox I could find only 'xor' :-D
gaal or is that boolea xor? :-p
xerox I think it's 'boolean'
~ makes ops work on strings?
gaal 'xor' is a synonym for ^^, which is akin to &&, || etc. 18:46
xerox So there are: ~&, ?&, and so on?
gaal yes, exactly
xerox Cool! 18:47
gaal this is to avoid ($input+0) & 7 etc.
like you needed in p5 (and javascript too, I'm told)
come to think of it i'm not sure i understand ^^. 18:48
xerox hehe.
Maybe I should checkout and build a newer pugs.
gaal ah, i do i do.
it returns the true one.
or bool::false
cute.
xerox What? 18:49
gaal now to find a place this is useful :-)
xerox Please elaborate on that :-)
gaal $x ^^ $y => one of three possible values:
(a) bool::false, if ?$x == ?$y 18:50
(b) $x, if $x
(c) $y, if $y
xerox Heh, what is the '?' about?
gaal booly context. :)
xerox Hah. 18:51
gaal ok ok boolean, but i'm feeling, ah, nicky.
xerox nickian! Err..
gaal anyway, Prim.hs:847 for The Answer
Wittgenstein invented truth tables less than a hundred years ago and already we have this! 18:52
xerox Let's synchronize the sources..
gaal op2 "^^" 18:53
xerox Yes sure
Some definition there are *so* tersely cute. 18:54
gaal I do wonder, though, if undef wasn't a better choice. 18:56
not seeing the actual usage though, I don't know...
xerox Are there programs written in p6?
(..yet)
gaal sure! examples/ 18:57
and of course t/ :-)
Aankhen`` goes to sleep. 18:58
xerox Uuuh, there are plenty of them.
Aankhen`` G'night.
xerox I want functional p6 code! 18:59
gaal fp.pm somewhere there
examples/functional/
xerox melts with monads.p6 19:01
See you later :-)
gaal :-) 19:02
fp.p6 - wondering:
multi sub member (*$val) returns Bool { 0 }
why not bool::false ?
wolverian gaal, and why not --> Bool? 19:15
gaal wolverian: does that parse already? 19:21
wolverian oh, I don't know. 19:22
20:02 comet_ is now known as comet, comet is now known as comet_ 20:58 pjcj_ is now known as pjcj
pmurias ~/exit Sleeping time 22:09

Powered by Cro and the Raku® Programming Language.

Please report any issues / comments / feature requests as an issue on App::Raku::Log.

Thank you!