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Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008.
Juerd Haven't heard about/from TimToady in a while. Maybe a week? 00:00
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TimToady I am home from the hospital, and now recovering from that... 00:30
while I was there I got 4 units of blood, a CT scan (negative), and an upper endoscopy (also negative) 00:31
araujo mmm... 00:32
allbery_b whee
araujo TimToady, what happened to you? (if I may ask)
TimToady severe anemia, probably from bleeding somewhere
araujo ouch :-(
TimToady but it's not a reoccurance of my GIST tumor of 4.5 years ago 00:33
nor is is stomach ulcers, so possibly ulcers farther down
(which is easy to do when you don't have a valve on the bottom of your stomach...)
araujo :-( 00:34
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TimToady anyway, I'll have more tests over the coming weeks 00:34
araujo TimToady, hope you get well 00:36
TimToady well, I'm certainly less anemic at the moment, after 4 units...
but that's not a good long-term solution 00:37
and being less anemic, it's even possible I'll be thinking more clearly (or rather, less unclearly :) 00:41
diakopter envisions spec reversions 00:42
TimToady snorts
araujo TimToady, it's perl ... nobody blames you no matter what :-)
TimToady s/no/every/
araujo hah
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Juerd TimToady: I had no idea you were in hospital; glad to see you're relatively okay 00:59
mncharity "scandal in the software development community - whole blood transfusion and oxygenation as a strategy for higher performance coding"
glad you're out. sorry cause is still unknown.
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Juerd mncharity: Well, having oxygen in your blood does certainly help :) 01:02
Juerd has light hemolytic anemia from time to time 01:03
(caused by G6PD deficiency)
In short, it sucks.
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TimToady vaguely possible mine is hemolytic, and they've just mistaken it for bleeding 01:04
not sure if they're run all the tests that would distinguish it
Juerd If it's hemolytic you certainly want to know the cause. The same thing could occur again, and maybe result in a hemolytic crisis 01:05
There's food and drugs that I should avoid. 01:06
Including bitter lemon, which I really like 01:07
Urgh, 2am already. Should try to sleep. 01:08
Good night!
diakopter good night Juerd
Juerd Or, er, whichever time of day you have there.
mncharity sometimes web coverage just doesn't have a single good source 01:11
goodnight Juerd
www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/uvahe...lucose.cfm www.medicinenet.com/g6pd_deficiency/article.htm rialto.com/g6pd/ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose-6-pho...deficiency 01:12
lambdabot tinyurl.com/2f5dvd
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mncharity pitty p5 doesn't have a scannerless GLR parser. python has dparser. we don't seem to even have a GLR. :/ 01:13
i suppose someone could wrap dparser.sourceforge.net/ for cpan... anyone... :) 01:15
lambdabot Title: D Parser Homepage
kolibrie mncharity: regarding PCR - fglock wrote lrep, then formalized that into PCR, then redesigned a little bit as MP6, then started KP6 01:20
so PCR gets no love because it was only a stepping stone
however, I run PCR in production (well backend, but for production stuff)
I plan on re-examining what is out there to see if I should migrate to something better/faster 01:21
mncharity kolibrie: ah, interesting. thanks. 01:26
hmm, I wonder if I should hack a PCR compatibility class for yet_another_regex_engine, just to see if there would be interest in a cleaned up yare as a cpan module. 01:27
any idea how widely used PCR is? /me goes to see if cpan has download stats... 01:28
kolibrie mncharity: I doubt many people use it - I may be the only one!
I just submitted my talk proposal for YAPC::NA 2008, so we'll see if they have interest in Practical Extraction with Perl6 01:30
mncharity apparently cpan www.cpan.org/misc/cpan-faq.html#Pla...statistics doesn't have download stats as policy. pointing to xxx.lanl.gov/help/faq/statfaq . 01:32
lambdabot Title: The CPAN Frequently Asked Questions
mncharity which I can see. though it might be nice to have some way for people to note which modules they value. which would address some, but not all, of the lanl concerns. and would help in cases like this. 01:33
re "Practical Extraction with Perl6", :) 01:34
kolibrie search.cpan.org has ratings
mncharity true. ok, maybe solved problem. PCR unfortunately has no ratings. 01:35
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kolibrie TimToady has been working on something or other to help him work out the kinks in STD.pm, but I have not looked at it yet 01:36
mncharity yes. there's now a src/perl6/STD5_run to make it easy to play with. 01:38
there's also misc/STD_red/STD_red_run. but it's a bit out of sync, and hasn't attempted to do the @fate DFA stuff. 01:40
looks like PCR compatibility for yare could cost a day or so. ah well. if there's real interest, let me know. 01:42
kolibrie: it might be worth adding a rating, mentioning you are using it in production. thus bumping it over the "there's no sign anyone has every even tried to use this, let alone succeeded" threshold. 01:43
kolibrie well, I never used the CPAN version, just the one in the pugs repo 01:44
and if I find a better alternative, I'll switch off of it (PCR is rather slow) 01:45
mncharity: I suppose I could add my comments, to at least say the good and the bad 01:46
mncharity the svn log suggests the cpan module is built from the pugs repo. 01:47
kolibrie probably true
mncharity re comments, "at least say the good and the bad", I think that would be neat. I'd love to hear that myself.
kolibrie I am not sure there has been a CPAN release of PCR since some of the stuff I needed was added 01:48
and the syntax I'm sure is not current with the p6 spec any more 01:49
mncharity kolibrie: ok, cpan 0.28 looks the same as pugs head. cpan has a META.yml, pugs has t6/ and temp/ and t.sh. 01:53
:) 01:54
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mncharity diff -u -r deleteme/Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.28 SVN-pugs/perl5/Pugs-Compiler-Rule/|grep -v '\.svn' 01:55
re 'the good and the bad', what turned out to be the good and the bad? highlights? 01:56
kolibrie mncharity: it was the first implementation that actually worked 01:57
pugs was close, but it still had some problems
plus, I could use it in production because it compiles down to perl5 automatically 01:58
that way I can pretend it is perl5 (at a system level) but use the perl6 syntax
mncharity right 01:59
kolibrie the big bad is that it is very slow
but correct was more important than fast, so I've been using it for about two years 02:00
mncharity re popularity, popcon.debian.org/ 's popcon.debian.org/source/by_inst.gz | grep perl might be a proxy stat. 02:02
lambdabot Title: Debian Popularity Contest
mncharity well yare would certainly be much faster. whether it would be more or less correct than PCR, good question. 02:04
probably both. :) 02:06
kolibrie so, I have some sifting to do, but I should be able to get to it soon. I'm finishing up a rather consuming project at work
kolibrie heads to bed 02:07
mncharity g'night 02:08
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mncharity good night all & 02:35
spinclad g'night putter++ 02:41
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diakopter pugs: say 'hi' 14:36
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pasteling "pugsbot_r17185" at 193.200.132.135 pasted "Pugs build failure" (6 lines, 278B) at sial.org/pbot/30544 14:39
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diakopter pugs say 'hi' 14:40
pugs: say 'hi'
eval: say 'hi'
moritz_: ping
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raydower Interesting chart. 20:32
finance.google.ca/finance?q=TSE:OSP...DEXSP:.INX 20:33
lambdabot Title: TSE:OSPTX INDEXDJX:.DJI INDEXNASDAQ:.IXIC INDEXSP:.INX - Google Finance Search, tinyurl.com/32cwr3
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raydower In fact, the TSE is the best performing exchange in the world these days. 20:38
And has been for the past decade.
I was telling Americans 3 months ago to sell off their equities.
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pmurias if i want to write a daemon mode (running across multiple compiler runs) for kp6 is there any protocol i should use? 21:03
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pmurias or is having a compiler deamon frowned upon? 21:06
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spinclad i see nothing wrong with it. i might look at emacs or mozilla daemons, to see how they accept new requests... generally, though, i think reasonable would be: listen for a connection, take a command line, then further stdin from the connection. multithreading optional as able. 21:12
passing back status, stdout, stderr... dunno off the top of my head 21:14
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pmurias spinclad: i'll try to get something simple working reasonably elegantly first 21:15
spinclad (or, yeesh, check CPAN of course. duh.)
sure 21:16
pmurias spinclad: do you know anything similiar on CPAN? 21:17
shower& 21:18
spinclad no, haven't looked yet. IPC::something maybe.
or ...::Daemon... 21:19
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spinclad look at Net::Daemon (or IPC::Run3 or Net::EasyTCP or Netserver::Generic) ... 21:35
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spinclad s/Netserver/NetServer/ 21:40
going by likely debian packages installed here 21:41
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pmurias spinclad: thanks, i'll try Net::EasyTCP and Net::Deamon later, i'll stay with IP::Socket for now 21:45
spinclad yw 21:47
pmurias now focusing on implementing everything in a semi-civilised manner ;) 21:49
spinclad (or PlRPC maybe) 21:50
(uses Net::Daemon, used by DBI) 21:52
anyway, brainstorm dump mode. take what you will. 21:53
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pkrumins eval: 23:17
eval: "this is perl 6 code"
Is there a Perl 6 eval bot? 23:23
diakopter pkrumins: there was...
it's on hiatus for a bit
moritz_: you around
pkrumins kk 23:24
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