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pugscode.org/ | nopaste: sial.org/pbot/perl6 | pugs: [~] <m oo se> (or rakudo:, kp6:, smop: etc.) || We do Haskell, too | > reverse . show $ foldl1 (*) [1..4] | irclog: irc.pugscode.org/ Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008. |
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| spinclad | perl6: say(42+1); | 06:26 | |
| exp_evalbot | kp6: OUTPUT[43] | ||
| ..pugs: OUTPUT[43] | |||
| ..rakudo: OUTPUT[43] | |||
| spinclad | perl6: parse 'say(42+1);' | 06:27 | |
| exp_evalbot | kp6: OUTPUT[no method 'APPLY' in Class 'Undef' at compiled/perl5-kp6-mp6/lib/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 345 KindaPerl6::Runtime::Perl5::MOP::__ANON__('HASH(0x824bd14)', 'APPLY', 'HASH(0x8e4eaac)') called at compiled/perl5-kp6-mp6/lib/KindaPerl6/Runtime/Perl5/MOP.pm line 169 | ||
| ..main::DISPATCH('HASH(0x824bd14)', 'APPLY', 'HASH(0x8e4eaac)') ca... | |||
| ..pugs: OUTPUT[*** No such subroutine: "&parse" at /tmp/8gZXNhqUG3 line 1, column 1 - line 2, column 1] | |||
| ..rakudo: OUTPUT[Null PMC access in invoke()current instr.: '_block10' pc 31 (EVAL_11:15)called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;eval' pc 785 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:458)called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;evalfiles' pc 1067 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:587)called from Sub | |||
| ..'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;command_line' pc 1246 (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:676)... | |||
| Auzon | oooh, that one broke nicely :P | ||
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| spinclad | it knows how to parse, but knows not that it knows | 06:28 | |
| Auzon | What was it supposed to do? | 06:29 | |
| TimToady | turn into an AI | ||
| spinclad | what, no omphaloskepsis? | 06:30 | |
| no self-knowledge? | |||
| TimToady | most OO languages are confused about "self" | 06:31 | |
| spinclad | 'yes, that's _your_ self, not _my_ self.' | ||
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| spinclad | Auzon: one could dream of it returning a parse-tree with <statementlist> in it. other than that, it did what it ought. | 06:37 | |
| Auzon | That's what I suspected | 06:38 | |
| I'm a fan of code that you can ask "hey, what do are you trying to do with this input?" | 06:39 | ||
| spinclad | 'hey, give it back. it's mine!' | ||
| 'thief! programses! we hates them, yes we do!' | 06:40 | ||
| TimToady | hey, I said it parsed it, not that it returned anything useful :) | 06:41 | |
| Auzon | The implications of programs acting like golem (it is golem who acts like that, right?) simply scares me. | ||
| spinclad | it was baggins who acted like that. give us back our preciouss! | 06:43 | |
| Auzon | Yeah... | ||
| Then where did I get "golem" from? | |||
| spinclad | gollum (aka Sméagol) | 06:44 | |
| Auzon | Aha | ||
| TimToady | a golem is one of those undead things that wanders around cemeteries... | ||
| Auzon | I thought he was the one that had the "my precioussss" lines | 06:45 | |
| TimToady | usually in Prague | ||
| spinclad | (the golem was man creating a man in his own image) | ||
| i heard from Gerry Sussman that he, Marvin Minsky, and Joel Moses, all at MIT AI Lab/Lab for Comp Sci, were all descended from the Maharal of Prague, maker of the golem in question | 06:49 | ||
| jql wonders if men made from mud is metaphorically significant in #perl6 | 06:50 | ||
| spinclad | Joel felt it had deep meaning, Marvin thought it void of significance | ||
| Auzon | It's kind of interesting that you mention the AI Lab, since that's trying to create intelligence in our own image. | 06:52 | |
| spinclad | ISTR that Gerry dedicated his thesis to the Maharal, "who first noted that 'and God created man in his own image' was recursive" | 06:53 | |
| Auzon | What is 'ISTR'? | 06:54 | |
| TimToady | I seem to recall | ||
| spinclad | I Seem To Recall | ||
| Auzon | I see. I haven't heard that one before | ||
| TimToady | the question is, to *whom* do you seem to have recalled it... | 06:55 | |
| spinclad | yes, it's an interesting connection. one of the things Joel found profound. | ||
| .oO { i have recalled it to my mind, and called it to yours } | 06:56 | ||
| TimToady | but surely you call something before you recall it... | ||
| spinclad | i heard the call, i hear it still in the stillness... | 06:58 | |
| i must recollect it before i can recall it to you | |||
| TimToady | you'll have to remind yourself a few times first | 06:59 | |
| me, I mind my wife, and then she reminds me... | |||
| spinclad | sir! this time you go too far! _mind_ and i have agreed to never speak again. | 07:00 | |
| TimToady | well, for my part, it's about time for Mind over Mattress... | 07:01 | |
| Auzon | Good night then :) | ||
| TimToady | g'night & zzz | 07:02 | |
| spinclad | pardon, i'm getting too silly here. i shall take your diagnosis and medicine for my own. | 07:03 | |
| Auzon | I found it amusing, for what it's worth | ||
| pugs: ln(1e6) | 07:12 | ||
| exp_evalbot | OUTPUT[*** No such subroutine: "&ln" at /tmp/AbJt0T67Va line 1, column 1 - line 2, column 1] | ||
| Auzon | pugs: log(1e6)/log(2) | ||
| exp_evalbot | RESULT[19.931568569324174] | 07:13 | |
| Auzon | oh right, ln wasn't what I wanted either | ||
| pugs: log(1e6) | |||
| exp_evalbot | RESULT[13.815510557964274] | ||
| Auzon | pugs: log(1e6)/log(10) | ||
| exp_evalbot | RESULT[5.999999999999999] | ||
| Auzon | Does log default to base e? | ||
| spinclad | .oO { dreams of a natural base } .oO { looks like } | 07:14 | |
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| Auzon | pugs: log(1e6)/log(2.72) # close enough | 07:14 | |
| exp_evalbot | RESULT[***  Unexpected end of input expecting operator or "}" at /tmp/47hL0eooJJ line 2, column 1] | 07:15 | |
| Auzon | pugs: log(1e6)/log(2.72) | ||
| exp_evalbot | RESULT[13.806786321572208] | ||
| Auzon | yeah | ||
| spinclad -> bed & # perchance to dream | 07:16 | ||
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| Tene | blog.rafaelferreira.net/2008/04/cou...-dsls.html -- interesting | 07:28 | |
| lambdabot | Title: Rafael rambling: A couple of interesting DSLs, tinyurl.com/557jza | ||
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| moritz_ | re | 11:58 | |
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| moritz_ | [particle1: ping timeout ;/ | 13:17 | |
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| pugs_svnbot | r20249 | rhr++ | [evalbot] add a \n so it doesn't get confused by comments in the program | 13:39 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20249 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 20249 - Pugs - Trac | ||
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| mncharity | lol # we have such fun backlogs :) | 22:41 | |
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| mncharity | hmm. It would be nice if STD5_run returned an error if the requested rule didn't exist. eg, statmentlist :P | 22:50 | |
| TimToady | there are lots of it-would-be-nices in the world | 22:53 | |
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| Juerd | I expect them ALL to be implemented by christmas. | 22:54 | |
| TimToady | it would be nice | 22:55 | |
| Juerd | It would the nicest would-be christmas :) | ||
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| mncharity | re nice, any objection to STD5_run changing to eval a require+parse, rather than the current system()? | 22:57 | |
| TimToady | you wrote it, you can do whatever you like with it. :) | 22:58 | |
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| mncharity | hmm... green and red flashing lights... | 22:58 | |
| TimToady | I basically only run it to do the equivalent of "make", and then go back to ./try | 22:59 | |
| so I have no objections | |||
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| pugs_svnbot | r20250 | putter++ | elf/TESTS: Added passing v6/v6-KindaPerl6/t/kp6/*.t | 23:03 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20250 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 20250 - Pugs - Trac | ||
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| mncharity | re make, ah, ok | 23:08 | |
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| pugs_svnbot | r20251 | putter++ | src/perl6/STD5_run: Complains if the requested start rule doesn't exist. Explicitly reports parse failure. | 23:30 | |
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20251 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 20251 - Pugs - Trac | 23:31 | |
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| mncharity | Not sure if the switch to Class::Multimethods is more than temporary. Really want a derivative instead. | 23:51 | |
| pugs_svnbot | r20252 | putter++ | [elf_d] Switch to using Class::Multimethods for multi methods. | ||
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20252 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 20252 - Pugs - Trac | ||
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