pugscode.org/ | nopaste: sial.org/pbot/perl6 | pugs: [~] <m oo se> (or rakudo:, kp6:, smop: etc.) || We do Haskell, too | > reverse . show $ foldl1 (*) [1..4] | irclog: irc.pugscode.org/
Set by TimToady on 25 January 2008.
pugs_svnbot r20350 | lwall++ | [STD] much-improved match model, now handles singular/plural bindings 00:04
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20350
pugs_svnbot r20351 | lwall++ | [STD] EXPR tweak from putter++, panic shouldn't bind 00:19
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20351
r20352 | lwall++ | [fudge] missing ; 00:31
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20352
r20353 | lwall++ | [fudge] fail should be flunk 00:34
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20353
mncharity (7) I'm puzzled by the $<top> plumbing. it looks vaguely like $<top> gets created in %thisop by PrecOp, and never gets added operator Match's. but while one path into EXPR's @opstack uses %thisop, another goes straight from expect_term via @t. implementation(obviously potentially buggy) symptom is landing in reduce with an $op lacking an $op<top>.
eg '3.X eq 4' 00:35
lots of dev.pugscode.org "Internal Server Error"s today. 00:36
TimToady well, that stuff is all due for a refactor now that the match tree is being sanerish 00:37
I've actually got some hope of propagating such things up the tree now
mncharity :/ :) 00:39
so close... seems to almost work in STD_red. prefix and postfix operators working for the first time. 00:40
ok, license to kludge... 00:41
mncharity ah well. perhaps defer next rev of STD_red until after refactoring. most of kp6 t/kp6, and 1/4 of pugs t/ is "parsing", for some likely defective value of parsing. unfortunately not much of t/builtins. but most of sanity. so test passing could be chased instead. sigh. 01:29
always possible/likely it's a STD_red bug rather than a STD.pm issue. 01:31
mncharity Anyone know the official way to distinguish a hash literal from a code block? 01:46
Auzon pugs: my $x = sub {3}; print $x.WHAT 01:51
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[Sub]
Auzon pugs: my $x = -> $_ {3}; say $x.WHAT 01:52
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[Block␤]
Auzon pugs: my $x = {3}; say $x.WHAT
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[Block␤]
Auzon pugs: my $x = {a => 3}; say $x.WHAT
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[Hash␤]
Auzon mncharity: The synopses and Pugs seem to agree that my $x = sub {3} is code, and my $y = 3 isn't 01:53
Is that what you were after?
TimToady the top level must be a pair or a list that starts with a pair 01:55
mncharity pugs: {3;4}
exp_evalbot RESULT[4]
mncharity pugs: {3,4} 01:56
exp_evalbot RESULT[(3, 4)]
mncharity thanks :)
TimToady pugs: my $x = {}; $x
exp_evalbot RESULT[{}]
TimToady looks like that defaults to hash too
Auzon pugs: my $x = {}; $x.WHAT
pugs: my $x = {}; say $x.WHAT 01:57
It doesn't like me, apparently.
TimToady you broke it!!!
you had a space at the front of your line
mncharity pugs: my $x = {}; $x.WHAT
exp_evalbot RESULT[::Hash]
Auzon Indeed, even though I couldn't see it. It must be a copy/paste artifact.
TimToady pugs: my $x = {;}; $x.WHAT
exp_evalbot RESULT[::Block]
mncharity Auzon: crystal ball... you are using a recent version of gnome... and gaim... and cut and pasted... 01:58
TimToady pugs: my $x = {}().WHAT
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[*** Cannot cast from VList [] to Pugs.AST.Internals.VCode (VCode)␤ at /tmp/YnegwjO3Gn line 1, column 4 - line 2, column 1␤]
mncharity I'm encountering the same issue. :/
Auzon is using Pidgin v2.4.1-1.fc8. 01:59
but on KDE.
mncharity hmm. so much for that causal hypothesis. neat.
Auzon I can try it on Gnome in a while.
mncharity I've been seeing it on the aforementioned gnome+gaim. so appears to be wm + irc-client independent. 02:00
Auzon Pidgin's name after Gaim 2.0.0.
if you didn't realize... 02:01
mncharity ahh. didn't.
back to gaim as hypothesis.
TimToady the blaim gaim
Auzon Does it usually happen when you copy/paste? 02:02
hm, mncharity, it says you're using something based off of libpurple, which would be Pidgin
Who maintains exp_evalbot? If it's based on Net::IRC or Bot::BasicBot, then it'd be easy enough to find out what character Pidgin is putting in there 02:05
mncharity some browsers show the character [] box. if you backlog, someone (spinclad?) said what it was. non-breaking space maybe? 02:06
Auzon Alright.
TimToady ah, it's a BOM 02:08
feff
mncharity colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...el=32#l131 02:09
lambdabot Title: #perl6 2008-04-12,Sat, tinyurl.com/5g96nl
mncharity eeep
(re BOM(
TimToady BOMs are an aBOMination
Auzon heh. Better than an ICBM
now, the question is if it happens internally to Pidgin, or just in GTK+ in general 02:10
TimToady so is there anyone who ever copy/pastes from a little-endian window to a big-endian window, or vice versa? 02:11
Auzon Is it even possible to do that on the same computer?
Tene Auzon: x forwarding 02:13
Auzon I suppose.
mncharity: will you type "/debug version" for me? I want to file a bug report against Pidgin once I can determine some characteristics of this problem 02:20
mncharity 17 sanity .t, 6 pass, 2 parsefail, 2 must be a misparse because there's a prefix:<++>, leaving 7 which might be fixable. 02:21
/debug version
mncharity is using Pidgin v2.4.1-1.fc8.
Auzon Ah, ok.
mncharity good night & 02:55
pugs_svnbot r20354 | pmichaud++ | * Add two more tests for string autoincrement.
r20354 | pmichaud++ | * Patch courtesy Jesse Vincent (obra++)
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20354
lambdabot Title: Changeset 20354 - Pugs - Trac
Auzon see you, mncharity
Eevee are there any modules for perl6 (or even module support)? 07:07
Auzon There's Test.pm at least.
Eevee oh, there's stuff in pugs/ext 07:09
pugs_svnbot r20355 | lwall++ | [STD] refactored precedence propagation 07:11
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20355
meppl good morning 07:28
Muixirt hi 12:30
Muixirt still has problems with building pugs 12:31
moritz_ hi 12:33
which svn revision are you using, and which GHC version?
Muixirt moritz_, latest and ghc 6.8.2 12:35
moritz_ that won't work, unless sombody fixed the build in the last 4 days 12:37
Muixirt: try ghc 6.8.2 with pugs r19915
Muixirt the build stops with the message "internal error" "invalid grammatic category: Bool" 12:38
moritz_, ok (but why?)
moritz_ Muixirt: why? because nobody fixed it 12:39
Muixirt: pugs development is as good as dead, and ghc 6.8.2 broke pugs build 12:40
Muixirt grr, who broke it?
moritz_ Muixirt: so some daring people tried to fix it, and encountered and error that nobody, not even the haskell people, could really explain
ghc 6.8.2 handles many libraries differently than 6.8.1
Muixirt moritz_, i'm only half way through Simon Thompsons book, so i can't help :( 12:41
moritz_ Muixirt: :/ 12:42
Muixirt moritz_, no luck with r19915 either 14:37
[particle] r19915 works with ghc 6.6.1 iiuc 14:43
Muixirt <moritz_> Muixirt: try ghc 6.8.2 with pugs r19915 14:44
[particle] yes, i believe moritz_ was mistaken 14:44
or... hopeful 14:45
pugs: say ::?COMPILER
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[?COMPILER␤]
TimToady the two are not mutually exlusive, I've found :)
[particle] hrmm. i forget how to get the version info
TimToady $?PUGS_VERSION maybe? 14:46
pugs: say $?PUGS_VERSION
exp_evalbot OUTPUT[Perl6 User's Golfing System, version 6.2.13, October 17, 2006 (r18093)␤]
[particle] ah. r18093 is the last known revision working with ghc 6.6.1 then 14:49
...if the auto-build system is still in operation.
Muixirt [particle], yes 6.6.1 did the trick 15:24
[particle] \o/ 15:25
ruoso TimToady++ # for remembering about "emulates" 16:28
lambdabot ruoso: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
rindolf Is it possible to use git effectively to write patches to perl5? 16:45
cj morning ingy 16:57
ingy hi cj 17:01
pugs_svnbot r20356 | clkao++ | new bindop that takes a structure to do all the proper reoder/rw bindings. 17:03
r20357 | lwall++ | [STD5] simplify <sym> matching to always just produce string, not Match
r20357 | lwall++ | [Cursor5] add explicit item, list, and hash access methods to Match
r20357 | lwall++ | [STD] to set $<sym> as string, you now need to say { $<sym> = $<other>.item }
r20357 | lwall++ | various other bug fixes
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20357
r20358 | clkao++ | cleanups. 17:06
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20358
Eevee dev.pugscode.org still spewing 500s.. 18:00
pmurias Eevee: not always ;) 18:05
Khisanth randomlly works? 18:13
Eevee has yet to work once for me today 18:15
pmurias Khisanth: yes 18:18
Eevee: try harder ;) 18:19
Eevee :f5: 18:19
Khisanth got it to load :) 18:20
so what the heck is wrong with it? O_o
pmurias Eevee: :f5: = ? 18:26
Eevee oh, heh
i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/em...mot-f5.gif
pmurias laughts 18:32
pmurias * laughs 18:40
pugs_svnbot r20359 | lwall++ | [STD] removed tags that are redundant with rulename; tidied up remaining 18:52
diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/20359
meppl good night 19:55
pmurias how should i invoke fudge 21:14
?
Auzon Are you working with Rakudo or something else? 21:16
[particle]ventus you can take a look at rakudo's test harness 21:18
svn.perl.org/parrot/trunk/languages.../t/harness
the template for the generated makefile might help, too 21:20
svn.perl.org/parrot/trunk/languages...es/root.in
lambdabot tinyurl.com/55hpws
TimToady pmurias: run fudge without an argument and it will print out usage 21:47
mostly fudge gets run automatically by fudgeall
which a tester can filter all the test filenames through 21:48
for those filenames that it fudges, it returns the fudged filename instead of the .t
TimToady if you've already run the test harness, there's usually already a foo.rakudo or some such there you can run pre-fudged for rakudo 21:49

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