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Set by sorear on 4 February 2011.
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sorear I'm not going to get mad at you but I am rolling my eyes 00:05
at least it's not hate rhetoric like someone else tried to introduce here the other day
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sorear when you start calling for violence against evolution supporters, *then* I'll get mad at you 00:06
o/ colomon 00:07
timotimo huh? i totally missed that
colomon \o
timotimo the hate rhetoric? how would anyone think #perl6 would be a good place to hate on evolution?
dalek ecza: 8609d73 | sorear++ | src/ (2 files):
Refactor to get variable validation and interpretation a bit closer together
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ecza: 58f8f28 | sorear++ | src/ (2 files):
Ensure that interpretation of variables always precedes validation
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liuchong i love perl6 01:46
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sorear liuchong: cool 02:53
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moritz \o 06:04
sorear o/ moritz 06:05
I see feather is having issues today
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dalek ast: d36d5ce | moritz++ | S11-modules/nested.t:
rakudo unfudges
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kudo/nom: 88d2953 | moritz++ | src/ (4 files):
change "defined" from prefix to listop

both std and niecza agree that listop is correct here.		 06:26
kudo/nom: 8d4f0c4 | moritz++ | docs/ChangeLog:
update ChangeLog
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dalek ecza: c4c5d53 | sorear++ | lib/CodeGen.cs:
When a variable lookup fails at translation time, postpone it to CHECK time or runtime
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Juerd 08:05 #perl6: < sorear> I see feather is having issues today 07:24
sorear: It's just the network connection... Still incredibly annoying though.
sorear sorry, I meant it in a general sense 07:25
hi Juerd.
I don't know if you heard but p6eval and dalek are both on feather3 now.
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Juerd That's great 07:26
dalek ecza: de5d06e | sorear++ | src/NieczaActions.pm6:
Add parsing for "use strict" / "no strict"
ecza: fa9e067 | sorear++ | src/ (2 files):
mergeback
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dalek ast: eff0660 | moritz++ | S32-scalar/defined.t:
test that defined() is a listop, RT #76448
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moritz rakudo: say [+](1,2,3) / 2 07:34
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«3␤»
dalek ast: 1f21858 | moritz++ | S03-metaops/reduce.t:
more tests for [+] as listop
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moritz rakudo: $_ .= () 07:39
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Method 'isa' not found for invocant of class 'Undef'␤»
moritz ouch
rakudo: say :16<10> 07:40
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«16␤»
moritz rakudo: say :16<10>.WHAT
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«Int()␤»
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moritz rakudo: say (j=>10,q=>10,k=>10).perl; 07:52
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«("j" => 10, Bool::False)␤»
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moritz nom: try die foo; say $!.backtrace 07:57
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤CHECK FAILED:␤Undefined routine '&foo' called (line 1)␤»
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moritz nom: try die "foo"; say $!.backtrace 07:57
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT« in block <anon> at /tmp/kKcZ5LmVvT:1␤␤»
moritz nom: try die "foo"; say $!.backtrace.WHAT 07:58
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«Backtrace()␤»
dalek ast: ca3a210 | moritz++ | S32-exceptions/misc.t:
$!.backtrace generates a Backtrace
 08:01
moritz rakudo: say ((0 => 1) => 2 => 3 => 4).perl 08:06
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«0 => 1 => 2 => 3 => 4␤»
moritz p6: Foo::bar(); module Foo { our sub bar() { say "ok" } } 08:08
p6eval pugs, rakudo 8d4f0c, niecza v16-12-gc4c5d53: OUTPUT«ok␤»
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dalek ecza: 366c11d | sorear++ | src/NieczaActions.pm6:
Under "no strict", variables need not be declared
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ecza: f437b48 | sorear++ | src/NieczaGrammar.pm6:
Default strict to off in -e and REPL
sorear bleh... I'd hoped to get a bit more done today
sorear wanders off to sleep
moritz rakudo: [+] 08:15
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: ( no output )
sorear moritz: should p6eval use "no strict"? 08:16
moritz sorear: I'd say no
sorear zzz& 08:17
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fsergot o/ #perl6 08:20
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dalek ast: d0e7707 | moritz++ | S03-metaops/reduce.t:
RT #80332, argumentless [+]
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arnsholt Oooh, looks like MacPorts is now does binary packages by default instead of source 08:54
That'll cut down on time for a lot of things 08:55
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moritz did it seriously recompile {open,libre}office when installing it? :-) 09:05
arnsholt Didn't try those, but it really did compile qt and boost and such 09:06
More annoyingly, it seemed to insist on recompiling those _every time_ I checked for upgrades 09:07
.u #
phenny U+0023 NUMBER SIGN (#)
moritz woah 09:08
arnsholt Which is why I haven't upgraded in ages
Yeah =)
But now I had some problems with Rakudo/Parrot, possibly related to ICU which I've installed via MacPorts 09:09
So I pretty much had to try to upgrade
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masak g'day, #perl6 09:36
moritz \o masak 09:37
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fsergot o/ masak 09:42
masak liuchong: welcome. we're pretty happy about Perl 6 as well ;)
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masak r: say so all("The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog".lc.comb.grep(/\w/)) eq any('a'..'z') 10:51
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«True␤»
masak n: say so all("The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog".lc.comb.grep(/\w/)) eq any('a'..'z')
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«True␤»
masak \o/
n: say so all("The quick brown cat jumps over the lazy dog".lc.comb.grep(/\w/)) eq any('a'..'z') 10:52
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«True␤»
masak hm, right.
n: say so "The quick brown cat jumps over the lazy dog".lc.comb.grep(/\w/).sort.uniq.join eq ('a'..'z').join
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«False␤»
masak n: say so "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog".lc.comb.grep(/\w/).sort.uniq.join eq ('a'..'z').join
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«True␤»
masak \o/
n: sub is-pangram { $^s.lc.comb.grep(/\w/).sort.uniq.join eq ('a'..'z').join }; say "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog".&is-pangram 10:53
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«True␤»
daxim hello from paris/qa hackathon! 10:55
moritz \o 10:56
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masak daxim: hello, paris/qa hackathon! 12:13
spider-mario some event in Paris? 12:26
about Perl 6?!
(among others)
or just something fun?
something interesting? 12:27
moritz perl 5 12:30
Quality Assurance Hackathon, afaict 12:31
masak to lichtkind, about DNA as a reliable information carrier: gist.github.com/2263455 12:32
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lichtkind timotimo: hauptsache fühlst dich nicht unwohl :) 13:59
masak oh, I hadn't realized timotimo is a German-speaker, too. 14:08
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timotimo i hid my identity well ... until now! 14:21
masak don't worry, we won't tell. 14:24
timotimo here's hoping the google spider won't spider the irclogs, else searching for my nickname and "speaker" should result in that line popping up ;) 14:26
lichtkind rakudo doesnt do grab 14:28
spider-mario I believe google does index the logs 14:34
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moritz it does, yes 14:39
lichtkind sorry 14:40
but back to my problem there is a test and i thought it was fullfilled by rakudo
moritz which test? 14:53
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lichtkind github.com/perl6/roast/blob/master...#L134-L170 15:28
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moritz rakudo doesn't run that test file 15:41
in fact, rakudo doesn't even implement KeyHash (it just stubs in the type object)
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lichtkind ah thankt 16:00
arnsholt Anyone else on OS X have problems compiling Rakudo? 16:09
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sorear good * #perl6 16:15
masak sorear! \o/ 16:17
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masak p6: say "The big dwarf only jumps".lc.comb.grep(/\w/).Bag 16:31
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: Unable to resolve method Bag in class List␤ at /tmp/6CDA25C9xA line 1 (mainline @ 5) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 3838 (ANON @ 3) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 3839 (module-CORE @ 65) ␤ at /home/p…
..pugs: OUTPUT«*** Cannot cast from VList [VRule (MkRulePGE {rxRule = "\\w", rxGlobal = False, rxStringify = False, rxAdverbs = VUndef})] to VCode (VCode)␤ at /tmp/xg7MsiSoCX line 1, column 5 - line 2, column 1␤»
..rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«Method 'Bag' not found for invocant of class 'List'␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/CjP6tNGswp:1␤␤»
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masak aww -- what's the use of having Bags if we can't create histograms from Lists? :P 16:31
Teratogen yeah, what masak said! 16:32
masak p6: use MONKEY_TYPING; augment class List { method Bag { Bag.new(self) } }; say so all("The big dwarf only jumps".lc.comb.grep(/\w/).Bag.values) == 1
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c, niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«True␤»
..pugs: OUTPUT«pugs: *** Unsafe function 'use' called under safe mode␤ at /tmp/ox_6t73xfp line 1, column 1␤»
masak fortunately, monkey typing comes to the rescue ;) 16:33
Teratogen can I say old Bag;
in perl 6?
masak p6: use MONKEY_TYPING; augment class List { method Bag { Bag.new(self) } }; say so all("The jig dwarf only jumps".lc.comb.grep(/\w/).Bag.values) == 1
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c, niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«False␤»
..pugs: OUTPUT«pugs: *** Unsafe function 'use' called under safe mode␤ at /tmp/hVLKR95eVi line 1, column 1␤»
masak Teratogen: 'old' isn't a keyword. was it a joke of some sort? :)
Teratogen yes 16:34
an old bag is an old grumpy woman
masak a ha ha
save your jokes for tomorrow :P
Teratogen err, a grumpy old woman
masak spends some time thinking about the distinction between those two
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masak p6: use MONKEY_TYPING; augment class List { method Bag { Bag.new(self) } }; say so all(q["Fix, Schwyz!", quäkt Jürgen blöd vom Paß.].lc.comb.grep(/\w/).Bag.values) == 1 16:37
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT«pugs: *** Unsafe function 'use' called under safe mode␤ at /tmp/g5bD1Ddaeu line 1, column 1␤»
..rakudo 8d4f0c, niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«True␤»
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sisar does sorear blog on perl6 ? 16:40
s/on/about 16:41
moritz if you count release announcements... :-)
masak was just gonna say :P
sisar: I would *love* to read sorear blog posts expounding on Perl 6. but not everyone decides to blog. and that's OK -- people are different. 16:42
moritz spent much of the day watching table tennis world championship at ittf.com/ittv/
masak tennis -- that's the one with the low net, right? and rackets?
moritz table tennis -- even lower nets :-) 16:43
(next semifinal in 17 minutes)
masak oh!
sisar masak: no problem
was just compiling a list of perl6 blogs
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masak as children, we were never allowed to play on the table. 16:43
moritz sisar: planetsix.perl.org pretty much has that list
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sisar looks 16:44
moritz sisar: not all of those blogs are active, but pretty much all active Perl 6 blogs are on that list
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masak moritz: the question of implicit type conversion methods came up the other day. .Bag above would be such an example. I'm torn on the issue. 16:50
problem is, it'd be really *nice* to arrive at a solution where the target type (like Bag) got a say in how one could convert to it.
for various reasons. one reason being that you could collect all conversion methods in the same place. 16:51
but the argument against is easy to make: it breaks method dispatch, and we kinda prefer not to break method dispatch.
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moritz masak: that's why we have Bag(something) coercion syntax, no? 16:57
masak: for that, Bag can decide what to do
masak right.
but...
sometimes it makes a lot of sense to write it as .Bag
moritz but you want your cake *and* eat it
masak yes. 16:58
this is Perl 6, after all.
if we preferred compromises, we'd all have said "screw it, Perl 5 is good enough" long ago.
hm... I guess the equivalence between something.Bag and Bag(something) is a remnant of the (very old) equivalence between methods and subs. 16:59
moritz there is no such equivalence, except by convention 17:00
masak there once was, that was my point.
long ago.
whether or not it is, I think my example above shows why .Bag is sometimes a good idea. namely, when you have a chain of method calls.
TimToady Mu could decide to delegate to Bag() as a default, but maybe only if it's known to be a type at the point of the call 17:01
moritz this "at the point of the call" scares me
becaues it implies that lexical scopes and method calls aren't decoupled anymore 17:02
masak me too -- but let's be corageous and follow the thought to its conclusion.
well, method calls occur in a lexical scope ;)
TimToady well, the other way is to say that we *know* that Bag is a type, and you have to write .'Bag' to get the other behavior
masak I'm not immediately against that variant.
because upper-cased methods aren't that common anyway. 17:03
TimToady it tends to work against the culture of uppercase method names
masak and maybe just compile-time error if the type doesn't exist.
TimToady not sure I want to enforce lc names to that extent 17:04
masak but we also implicitly suggest that people start their type names with upper case. we haven't done that before... right.
except in error messages, to get nicer errors.
.to(Bag) 17:05
...just thinking out loud :)
TimToady .&Bag 17:06
masak oh, that works?
TimToady no
masak dang. 17:07
TimToady at least, not in rakudo
masak no, it wouldn't, because Bag isn't a function. it's a type object.
TimToady doesn't install Bag as &Bag
std does though
moritz does the spec say it should?
masak do we think it's a good idea? :)
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TimToady .&Bag is not terribly readable to neophytes 17:08
masak would it mean that `Bag List` suddenly weren't TTIAR?
TimToady no
it's just a way of naming the .() entry point 17:09
but my druthers is just for .Bag to magically do what I want 17:10
masak mine too.
but not at the expense of sane method dispatch. 17:11
TimToady well, our whole junctional dispatch depends on method dispatch failure; why not this?
(only suggesting this for known types, not general failover) 17:12
could even just compile .Bag into .?'Bag' // Bag(), and leave Mu out of it 17:14
but the Mu solution feels a bit cleaner to me, if it can know that Bag was a known type
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TimToady perl6: say ~Bag 17:15
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«use of uninitialized value of type Bag in string context␤␤» 17:16
..pugs: OUTPUT«*** No such subroutine: "&Bag"␤ at /tmp/l8ck9HyoRa line 1, column 5 - line 2, column 1␤»
..niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: Parameter '' in 'Bag.Str' requires a defined argument␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 0 (Bag.Str @ 1) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /tmp/q5NqDe5KRr line 1 (mainline @ 2) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/COR…
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TimToady depending on how the type object stringifies in the dispatcher, you could just pass it instead of a method name, and the dispatcher could failover, or let Mu do it 17:17
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masak what's the core question here? "would we prefer not have to define List.Bag?"? is that a reasonable request? why? 17:18
one could imagine that for most pairs (T => S) of types, S will have no idea how to convert from T to itself. 17:19
TimToady you may not have control over either of the types involved
masak that doesn't make the unreasonable combinations any more reasonable :)
TimToady additional multis are a bit more sane than monkey typing
masak and the conversion code has to reside somewhere.
TimToady it's also possible that a base class will allow a substandard method to be inherited when it should be a submethod 17:21
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TimToady you'll like to overrule that, maybe, when you have a known derived class 17:21
don't think failover gets that right, though
sorear good * #perl6 17:22
masak !
masak good *, sorear.
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masak TimToady: I've managed to confuse myself now. I can't distinguish the alternatives in this issue, nor the forces involved. :/ 17:22
TimToady in fact, I suspect methods-that-should-be-submethods is a pervasive problem that will bite us hard 17:23
sorear What's the main issue today? 17:24
TimToady what does .Bag mean?
sorear p6: no strict; $x = 5; say $x * 2
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Variable $x is not declared␤at /tmp/uc2zfuQVdM:1␤»
..niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«10␤»
..pugs: OUTPUT«*** ␤ Unexpected " ="␤ expecting "::"␤ Variable "$x" requires predeclaration or explicit package name␤ at /tmp/ypOukIGo7A line 1, column 14␤»
sorear [Coke]: do you happen to know offhand which synopsis niecza is most behind on? 17:25
TimToady has to go do non-computer stuff, but will let this simmer in my backbrane
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sorear people using "my" in ACTIONs always amuses me. 17:26
masak it annoys me about epsilon :)
the /me construct, despite the name, is a third-person construct! :P 17:27
whoa, niecza has 'no strict'?
sorear as of last night
masak n: no strict; say %h.elems
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«0␤»
masak n: no strict; say %h.elems; my %h
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«Potential difficulties:␤ %h is declared but not used at /tmp/GUJ2_0XeXc line 1:␤------> no strict; say %h.elems; my ⏏%h␤␤0␤»
sorear I was using the repl and I was getting annoyed by having to my all the time
masak sorear++ 17:28
n: no strict; %h<foo> = 42; my %h; say %h.elems
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«1␤»
masak n: no strict; %h<foo> = 42; { my %h; say %h.elems }; say %h.elems
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«0␤1␤»
masak \o/
TimToady n: no strict: %h<foo> = 42; { our %h; say %h.elems }; say %h.elems 17:29
sorear I'm not very certain the postdeclaration behavior is correct, btw
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«Use of uninitialized value in string context␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/boot/lib/CORE.setting line 1226 (warn @ 3) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/boot/lib/CORE.setting line 234 (Mu.Str @ 10) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/src/S…
TimToady well, it's inconsistent with p5, which just pokes it into the package
sorear TimToady: s/:/;/ 17:30
TimToady n: no strict; %h<foo> = 42; { our %h; say %h.elems }; say %h.elems
p6eval niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«1␤1␤»
TimToady nm
bbl & 17:31
masak sorear: I'm ok with the postdeclaration behavior. 17:32
...fwiw. :)
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sorear masak: what cool feature would you like to see next? 17:55
moritz wants 'handles' 17:57
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moritz and introspection 17:57
oh, and macros :-)
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masak what moritz said. but 'handles' is the more important out of those three. 18:03
anything out of the sludgly parts of S09 would be fun to play with, and might give Niecza an advantage in the syntactic sugar department.
sludgy*
Teratogen likes the elegance and simplicity of the C macro preprocessor 18:04
and wishes it would have been included in the Perl 6 specification
moritz Teratogen: we know that. You say that every time somebody mentions macros
there's no point. It won't. 18:05
benabik Teratogen: The C preprocessor is available on most Linux systems as /usr/bin/cpp. Feel free to run it on your code before giving it to the perl6 interpreter.
Teratogen OK! 18:06
=D
what about Windows?
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benabik I imagine that mingw and cygwin provide it as well. Visual Studio might, but I've never looked for it. 18:07
masak Teratogen: the C preprocessor is available on Windows as well.
Teratogen ok ok I will stop mentioning it
Perl 6' 18:08
s macros are more powerful blah blah blah
=)
masak and I agree about "simplicity" but not about "elegance". :)
in many ways, textual macros are spectacularly ill-suited for transforming code.
I think 'is parsed' macros, to the extent they are textual macros, will be bad in this way. 18:09
(they are less bad, mind, because you still have regexes and grammars to help you parse stuff in those macros. but they still operate on the source code as text, rather than as AST)
sorear the big problem with the C preprocessor is that it's a C preprocessor 18:12
if you wanted to use m4 macros in your Perl 6 code, I wouldn't mind :) 18:13
my goal for today will be 'handles'.
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arnsholt Teratogen: Perhaps a dead horse, but have you used Lisp macros? 18:46
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Teratogen nope, never had the pleasure, arnsholt 18:47
but I understand Perl macros are going to be kind of more like Lisp macros than C Preprocessor macros?
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arnsholt Yeah, the Perl 6 macros are definitely in the vein of Lisp's macros 18:50
But do try Lisp macros. It's a whole different beast to the C preprocessor
[Coke] sorear: I do not know off hand what synopsis niecza is most behind on. I'll find out. 18:51
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sorear [Coke]: I already have my project for today 18:53
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sorear p6: (a => 5).say 18:56
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT«a 5␤»
..rakudo 8d4f0c, niecza v16-16-gf437b48: OUTPUT«"a" => 5␤»
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cbk1090 can someone please explain what a macros are good for? And prehaps provide a simple perl6 macro. 19:02
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dalek ast: 8f30adf | sorear++ | S16-io/bare-say.t:
[S16-io/bare-say] Update pair printing test for new syntax
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ast: f9fdd4d | sorear++ | / (4 files):
Misc niecza unfudges
TimToady cbk1090: see strangelyconsistent.org/blog/macros...hey-really 19:15
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[Coke] sorear: docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?ke...URFM1A0cHc 19:38
sorear thanks 19:39
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lichtkind @?CLASS are parent classes ? 19:41
sorear There is no @?CLASS. 19:42
lichtkind not anymore?
sorear Nope!
lichtkind and ::?CLASS? 19:44
Teratogen I guess the essence of macros is substitution 19:47
whether it takes place as text or as code
sorear lichtkind: ::?CLASS exists. 19:48
lichtkind yes found now the syn 19:49
masak Teratogen: yes, that's a nice way to summarize what macros do. substitution. 19:50
Teratogen: though Lisp-style macros tend to do more than that. it's more of a chance to run code at parsing, *and* do a substitution. 19:51
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masak nom: macro foo { say "lol, this runs before runtime!"; quasi { say "2" } }; say 1; foo; say 3 19:54
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«lol, this runs before runtime!␤1␤2␤3␤»
tadzik good evening 19:55
masak tadziku! \o/
tadzik masaku!
masak o krolu!
tadzik :D
masak :D
tadzik ...which reminds me of Game of Thrones again :) 19:56
masak the TV series? 19:57
tadzik nah, I didn't even see those
the books 'fcourse
masak do watch the TV series. it has great production values.
tadzik I've been recently spoiled by a friend. "Oh, reading Storm of Swords? So you know that XXX dies, do ya?"
timotimo wtf
tadzik "No, pal, no I didn't" 19:58
masak tadzik: that's not what friends do :/
tadzik but I reached this event today
moritz it reminds me of the "Dumbledore dies on page $n" t-shirts
arnsholt masak: One of my friends summarizes macros as "being able to create new syntactic abstractions"
masak arnsholt: nice.
tadzik masak: well, he was pretty embarrased after that :) 19:59
masak arnsholt: so I guess it's "syntactic" that differentiates macros from classes and subs, in that case.
arnsholt A bit cryptic, but captures the essence quite well IMO
Yeah, the syntactic bit sort of captures the whole "lets you do stuff not possible with functions" 20:00
I've unintentionally spoiled stuff in a similar vein, TBH
It's easy to do if you're scatterbrained like me =)
tadzik masak: and when I think of the TV series, it's always this feeling "10 x 30 minutes? I could read some chapters in that time!" 20:01
but I'll probably see the series once I ran out of books
too many people recommend it
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masak that's because it's awesome. 20:04
Teratogen Perl 6 should get certified for use in avionics, nuclear power industry, and medical equipment 20:10
!!! 20:11
sorear Teratogen: you're being annoying again
Teratogen oh, sorry =( 20:13
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lichtkind timotimo: would you be so kind and check www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index....dex_tablet 20:23
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Teratogen we all live in a yellow subroutine 20:46
a yellow subroutine
o/~
moritz Teratogen: if it weren't so quiet in here, I'd kick you for spamming now
Teratogen well when it gets too quiet I do get fidgety 20:47
sorear find something to do 20:48
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lichtkind @=DATA just lists the lines of $=DATA ? 21:01
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timotimo r: class Yellow is Str {}; sub subroutine() is Yellow { say "a yellow subroutine" }; say "we all live in a yellow subroutine"; subroutine(); subroutine(); 21:14
p6eval rakudo 8d4f0c: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot call 'trait_mod:<is>'; none of these signatures match:␤:(Attribute:D $attr, Any :rw(:$rw)!)␤:(Attribute:D $attr, Any :readonly(:$readonly)!)␤:(Attribute:D $attr, Any :box_target(:$box_target)!)␤:(Routine:D $r, Any :rw(:$rw)!)␤:(Routine:D $r, Any…
timotimo :(
masak lichtkind: that's how I read it. 21:16
benabik std: class Yellow is Str {}; sub subroutine() is Yellow {}
p6eval std 5740094: OUTPUT«ok 00:01 109m␤»
masak lichtkind: the alternative interpretation is that, in the presence of several =DATA sections, the array will contain each of them as an element.
benabik timotimo: I don't think `sub is Yellow` is what you mean. Perhaps you mean `of` or `returns`?
lichtkind masak: good, we just crossed 700 2 days ago 742 now
masak cool. 21:17
lichtkind yes that i pondered also
masak fwiw, I believe a recent commit to S26 was about =DATA-related matters.
lichtkind maybe tommow :)
masak yes. check 3e1a9a5a576b90e9eeabdb7083d16431513513f2 21:18
github.com/perl6/specs/commit/3e1a...31513513f2
lichtkind thanks, all major special var are now in index 21:19
but the links and churning details are the real work
moritz there are only three major special vars :-)
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masak "churning details" feels like what we've been doing for the past seven years in here ;) 21:21
lichtkind i know :) 21:23
but beside here we had a magazine to ship where i have 2 articles
this $=pod thing stands out its the only special var with lowercase 21:24
doesnt sit well with me
tadzik it's uppercase
oh, this new commit I never adopted... 21:25
masak submits rakudobug
tadzik aw 21:26
masak ;)
tadzik I mean, yay, more fun
masak now you get to close it! \o/
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tadzik horay! 21:29
why is feather so dizzy these days?
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masak anyone else experiencing random ssh lapses from feather? 21:35
tadzik yes
masak could it be the new load from, hm, was it dalek? 21:36
or something?
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sorear masak: Juerd says there are connection issues. 21:49
and dalek has been affected much less than you. :D
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masak .oO( you don't hear dalek complaining! ) 21:54
I think I've had my ssh connection with feather freeze up four or five times today. 21:55
Teratogen MITM ATTACK!
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masak with ssh? no, I don't think so. 21:56
flussence funny thing someone should mention $=POD, I was trying to get this to work the other day: github.com/flussence/Pod-Tree-Walker/ 21:58
(I'm not sure it ever did :( )
(and it takes [relatively] *ages* to run that one test file...) 21:59
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masak 'night, #perl6 22:19
fsergot good night o/ 22:25
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Teratogen night masak 22:54
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sorear o/ colomon 23:29
colomon \o
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jnthn o/ 23:58
sorear o/ jnthn 23:59

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