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diakopter perl6: say 44 unless 1 for 1..2; 01:50
p6eval rakudo ee86a5, niecza v19-13-g442e075: ( no output )
diakopter perl6: say 44 unless 1 for 1..2; 01:51
p6eval rakudo ee86a5, niecza v19-13-g442e075: ( no output )
diakopter oops; sry
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moritz \o 05:13
phenny: tell szabgab your website the p6mave one seem to have each article several times perl page, for example on szabgab.com/perl-weekly-two-days-later.html 05:15
phenny moritz: I'll pass that on when szabgab is around.
moritz phenny: tell szabgab *and the
phenny moritz: I'll pass that on when szabgab is around.
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moritz nr: my %h; say %h<a> 08:17
p6eval rakudo ee86a5, niecza v19-13-g442e075: OUTPUT«Any()␤»
dalek c: b45ecfe | moritz++ | lib/EnumMap.pod:
[EnumMap] :exists
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c: 7f0c910 | moritz++ | lib/Hash.pod:
start to document Hash
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masak g'day, #perl6 09:52
no backlog today :) 09:55
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moritz \o masak 10:27
jnthn Good afty o/ 10:41
masak \o 10:44
jnthn Short backlog is short. 10:47
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masak backlog I am disappoint. 10:52
to all you :wq-ers out there: www.rudism.com/s/vimcreep
I've recently been feeling this with vim, thanks to using macros more. 10:53
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masak the wonderful feeling of running a macro 120 times, seeing it fling text across the screen, ordering it into neat lines at the speed of terminal window updates. 10:54
moritz :-)
one thing I really like about vim that many other text editors don't offer is column hilighting and editing 10:55
dalek c: ade3303 | moritz++ | htmlify.pl:
start to munge URLs
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moritz ok folks, what do you think about a &podeval routine? (name is up for improvement) 10:57
I want to eval a piece of code, and return the $=pod variable at the end
or... some other API to get at the pod in a different compilation unit 10:58
dalek c: 7d68a67 | moritz++ | htmlify.pl:
remove outdated comment
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c: 36fe0e4 | moritz++ | / (2 files):
simplify by use of &eval
moritz this commit significantly speeds up html generation 11:08
though I haven't measured how much
cognominal_ masak, you did not try Sublime Text 2 :)
masak cognominal_: I did not, no. 11:09
dalek ast: d92fdf6 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S03-smartmatch/any-type.t:
Smartmatch against module lives, RT #76610
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moritz oh wow, my last patch to htmlify was a factor 3 speedup 11:16
masak \o/ 11:17
so it now runs in -200% of the previous time? :P 11:18
moritz masak: I think you're mixing up factors and sums :-) 11:19
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moritz I want to extract continuous sublists (where all elements match a certain smart-matcher) from a list 11:25
for example <a b a a b a> with matcher 'a' should produce ['a'], 'b', ['a', 'a'], 'b', ['a'] 11:26
what would be a good way to do that?
dalek ast: c1c897c | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S32-str/substr.t:
substr with start beyond end of string is Failure, RT #76682
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jnthn moritz: Maybe something with a flip-flop is possible. 11:28
masak do you really prefer the outer list to alternate arrays and individual elements? looks a bit un-unified to me. 11:30
besides that, it looks like a typical lagging-variable problem to me. 11:31
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moritz masak: no, actually i want to wrap them into custom objects, now that I think more about it 11:31
and yes, I'm looking for way to solve the lagging-variable thing without having to write a lagging variable all the time 11:32
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moritz r: class Pod::List is Pod::Block { }; say Pod:List.new(content => []) 11:36
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«You cannot create an instance of this type␤ in method bless at src/gen/CORE.setting:608␤ in method new at src/gen/CORE.setting:595␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/cMTGeWUmBC:1␤␤»
moritz curious error, no? 11:37
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jnthn Well, you usually get it out of things ike 11:40
r: module Foo { }; Foo.new 11:41
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«You cannot create an instance of this type␤ in method bless at src/gen/CORE.setting:608␤ in method new at src/gen/CORE.setting:595␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/PAbOHaDHSG:1␤␤»
moritz r: say (Pod:List).WHAT
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«Pod()␤»
moritz r: say (Pod:List).HOW
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«Perl6::Metamodel::PackageHOW.new()␤»
moritz r: say (Pod::List).HOW
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«Could not find symbol 'Pod::&List'␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/hFUo21YuGg:1␤␤»
moritz so it just ignores everything after the single colon 11:42
masak moritz: I'm also looking for a good general solution the lagging-variable problem. have been for about a year now.
moritz and what I get is just Pod, which is a namespace
masak: there seem to be two general categories of algorithm: one that does something if the lagging variable has a certain value, and the other one if the lagging variable changes value in a certain way 11:43
masak YAPC::EU talk submission deadline is today. just so y'all know. 11:44
moritz I wonder if I should submit a second talk, justin case 11:46
jnthn We submitted :)
uh wtf
jnthn submitted
.oO( Royal we... )
jnthn wonders if masak submitted the macros talk :) 11:49
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moritz just submitted a talk about p6doc 11:55
and I've submitted one about exceptions long ago 11:56
dalek ast: 4d39751 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S02-types/array.t:
cannot use Inf index to assign or access element in infinite array, RT #73184
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masak jnthn: I submitted the macros talk, yes. don't remember about the autopuns talk, but I think so. will check. I have two more talks that I want to submit today. (I expect some of them to be rejected. I don't want to give four talks) 12:03
dalek p/toqast: 0f445bb | jnthn++ | src/QRegex/P6Regex/Grammar.nqp:
Should only shallow-clone %*RX.
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dalek kudo/toqast: 5256ba0 | jnthn++ | src/QPerl6/World.pm:
Replace a couple more leftover pieces of PAST; fixes some cases of list assignment, getting assign.t running again.
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kudo/toqast: efe8720 | jnthn++ | src/QPerl6/Actions.pm:
A little more regex fixing.
jnthn submitted 2 in total. 12:04
Happy if either or both are accepted.
masak seems I only submitted the macros talk so far. 12:06
dalek ast: b963140 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S06-multi/redispatch.t:
next same in main block dies due to lack of dispatcher, RT #76328
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moritz flussence: gist.github.com/3116493 # I plan to improve the Pod::To::HTML codegen a bit :-) 12:10
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dalek p/toqast: 8009fa2 | jnthn++ | src/QAST/Operations.nqp:
Named arguments must always follow positional ones in the generated code, even if it ain't so in the AST.
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kudo/toqast: 0bcd4d4 | jnthn++ | src/QPerl6/ (2 files):
Fix deferral.
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bbkr diakopter: IMO testneeded tag should be removed from rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=77562 (explanantion in ticket) 12:47
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dalek ast: 868d0c6 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S03-operators/precedence.t:
and after say is not interpreted as infix:<and>, RT #73266
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bbkr masak: you classified ticket rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=74180 as "LTA error message" - do you expect code in ticket to fail? 13:20
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bbkr rn: "foo" ~~ /(foo)/; say "$0a"; 13:21
p6eval rakudo ee86a5, niecza v19-13-g442e075: OUTPUT«fooa␤»
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dalek ast: 606e737 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S05-match/capturing-contexts.t:
alphabetic characters can follow digits in $0 variable in interpolation
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dalek p/toqast: 0099a4e | jnthn++ | src/QAST/Operations.nqp:
Implement for op.
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kudo/toqast: 993a4e5 | jnthn++ | src/QPerl6/ (2 files):
Somewhat fix macros.
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kudo/toqast: 8acb17c | jnthn++ | src/QPerl6/Actions.pm:
Fix require.
kudo/toqast: 01db08d | jnthn++ | src/QPerl6/Actions.pm:
Eliminate another PAST/pirop usage.
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bbkr how should test for code that did timeout in the past looks like?
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bbkr I mean - is is possible to wrap it somehow that it won't interrupt whole test but simply fail one assertion? 14:00
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dalek kudo/toqast: 69aa196 | jnthn++ | src/QPerl6/Actions.pm:
Fix our scoped subs.
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kudo/toqast: a997440 | jnthn++ | src/QPerl6/World.pm:
Fix a couple of pasttype oopsies.
kudo/toqast: f033319 | jnthn++ | src/QPerl6/Actions.pm:
Fix 'use fatal'.
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dalek ast: b080fb5 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S12-attributes/clone.t:
cloning a Match object, RT #88254
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diakopter oy 14:43
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masak hello from a *bus*! \o/ 14:49
jnthn How's it feel to be stored and forwarded?
diakopter avoid bus error
masak so far, so good. 14:50
jnthn
.oO( SIGBUS would be a great name for an on-bus wifi access point... )
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diakopter not even the trains here have reliable wifi :(
it's very spotty 14:53
on the heavy rail
the light rail doesn't have it at all
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masak I'm using my phone as a wifi hotspot. 14:54
diakopter ohh :) that works well here (Verizon) 14:55
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jnthn Some trains here do have wifi onboard. 14:55
diakopter studies cmph.sourceforge.net/ 14:57
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masak bbkr: I think you were right to resolve rt.perl.org/rt3//Public/Bug/Displa...l?id=74180 15:23
we'll go by STD's example unless that turns out to be wrong. :)
bbkr++
bbkr masak: thanks 15:25
masak #perl6, may I recommend www.ccs.neu.edu/home/matthias/Prese...op2004.pdf as a thought-provoking afternoon read? 15:29
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dalek ast: ae8bd0a | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S12-subset/subtypes.t:
subset in signature cannot use non-predeclared variable, RT #72948
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bbkr r: my $::x = 3; say $::x; # is this the correct way to read '3' ? 15:51
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Variable $x is not declared␤at /tmp/0zrLvGh8T9:1␤»
diakopter masak: I'm not smart enough to infer what's being said by those slides.
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masak diakopter: I had a less-than-100% extraction success too. but still managed to enjoy them. 15:55
diakopter: the hierarchy tree diagrams were fairly opaque to me.
many of the points were not.
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seldon There are some interesting thoughts in them, although much of it is not new, and much of it would be horribly inefficient in practice at present. 16:03
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flussence php discovers array slicing: wiki.php.net/rfc/array_column 16:07
masak wow, that is horrible. :( 16:09
flussence I wouldn't call it horrible, just... pointless to do it that way. 16:10
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masak is there a way to /ignore things about PHP? :) 16:10
flussence telling me to shut up about it works :)
eviltwin_b is sure there's a way to make a netnanny useful by making it block references to php... 16:11
seldon Most irc clients have scripting support. I'm sure you could hook grep up to it. 16:13
Hmm...perl6 scripting for $irc_client would be nice. 16:14
diakopter how do I interpolate a scalar into a double-quoted string where I have alpha chars I want to appear exactly after the contents of the variable? 16:15
benabik irssi6?
tadzik diakopter: {} maybe?
r: my $foo = "zzz"; say "{$foo}bar" 16:16
diakopter {} what
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«zzzbar␤»
eviltwin_b {$foo}bar, I thought
that
diakopter ok thanks
tadzik yw
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masak flussence: sorry, I'm being over-sensitive. but seeing that function really made me depressed. :) 16:18
seldon: a Perl 6 IRC client would be nice. :) 16:19
flussence
.oO( and if we're going to write one from scratch, make it 256-colour compatible! )
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seldon I'm sure many php "programmers" will find the function extremely useful. 16:22
As for the IRC client, 256 colours is thinking too small. 256-bit colours! 16:23
To be prepared for the next few billion years of evolution and all. 16:25
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dalek ast: 1a144b7 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S14-traits/routines.t:
declaration of a sub with an unknown trait mentions trait_mod:<is> in dispatch error, RT #74092
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bbkr where should test for "class A { my $b; method c { $A::b = 5; say $A::b } }" be placed? $b is not considered a class attribute, is it? 16:46
maybe t/spec/S02-packages/package-lookup.t ? 16:47
hm, I think the best place will be t/spec/S10-packages/scope.t 16:48
masak +1 16:49
it's the closest thing to class attributes we have. but they're not really attributes. 16:50
bbkr I also found t/spec/S12-class/lexical.t but it is described as test for classes inside classes 16:53
and it duplicates some tests from t/spec/S12-class/basic.t :) 16:54
dalek ast: 0577148 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S02-packages/package-lookup.t:
can access a variable in a class package through its long name, RT #74412
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dalek ast: 84fa0c2 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S12-class/attributes.t:
class attribute cannot be initialized using .=, RT #74850
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moritz \o 17:44
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dalek ast: c5c61f6 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S02-packages/package-lookup.t:
variable declaration and access through long names, RT #75632
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dalek ast: fd2b5a2 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S12-class/inheritance.t:
our-scoped class can inherit from my-scoped class, RT #75376
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moritz flussence: doc.perl6.org/type/Hash has <p>...</p> tags inside <li>...</li> tags. Any idea how to get rid of those? 18:49
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moritz oh, that's even valid html5 18:50
that's... surprising
GlitchMr But, <p> in <li> is just fine 18:51
There are uses for this 18:52
moritz anyway, doc.perl6.org/ now 18:53
renders much nicer
GlitchMr paste.uk.to/cb666776 18:54
moritz previously, each list item had its own list
GlitchMr :)
But yeah, generating separate list for each element was somewhat silly 18:55
moritz well, it's non-trivial to do otherwise with the current Pod DOM 18:56
GlitchMr Hmmm... yeah...
Something reminding Markdown would be good documentation format, but well, I think we want to keep POD :) 18:57
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GlitchMr doc.perl6.org/routine/prefix%3A%3Cso%3E 18:58
I don't think that this should document "prefix:&lt;so&gt;" 18:59
masak I'd like to see a nice format-agnostic solution to "how to turn a DOM with only <li> nodes into a DOM with <ul> nodes wrapping all contiguous <li> nodes". 19:01
GlitchMr: good catch.
GlitchMr Does POD look like Perl 19:03
Regexes do, but...
masak I don't understand the question. 19:04
could you be a bit more concrete? 19:05
GlitchMr Well, POD is distinct from Perl
It's barely sticked to it
Perl 6 rules have syntax which reminds normal Perl 6 syntax
But I guess it could be difficult to invent syntax for POD which would be similar to Perl 6 syntax 19:06
masak I don't agree.
both regexes and Pod have distinct syntaxes than the mainline Perl 6 syntax.
regexes merely look a bit more similar, but they're really very distinct. 19:07
you can inline variables in regexes. you can inline (constant) variables in Pod.
so there is value exchange going back and forth between the mainline Perl 6 and its sublanguages. 19:08
changing buses &
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GlitchMr perl6: +{2} 19:11
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«Cannot call 'Numeric'; none of these signatures match:␤:(Mu:U \$v, Mu *%_)␤␤ in method Numeric at src/gen/CORE.setting:686␤ in sub prefix:<+> at src/gen/CORE.setting:2321␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/g75h9QyaEN:1␤␤»
..niecza v19-13-g442e075: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: Cannot use value like Block as a number␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 295 (Any.Numeric @ 6) ␤ at <unknown> line 0 (ExitRunloop @ 0) ␤ at /tmp/jjHUuN1C2K line 1 (mainline @ 2) …
GlitchMr perl6: print~{2}
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: ( no output )
..niecza v19-13-g442e075: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤␤Unsupported use of bare 'print'; in Perl 6 please use .print if you meant $_, or use an explicit invocant or argument at /tmp/Jjt8VtNhAt line 1:␤------> print⏏~{2}␤␤Unhandled exception: Check failed␤␤ at …
GlitchMr perl6: print ~{2}
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«_block1011»
..niecza v19-13-g442e075: OUTPUT«Block()<instance>»
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lolka helooo 19:30
jnthn hi, lolka ;)
er, :) even
lolka jnthn: am more know here than in my contry :P 19:31
country* damn english :s
jnthn Well, the population here is a little smaller... ;) 19:32
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lolka well i havent been to russia for few around a year too :( 19:32
jnthn Me either :( 19:33
Or Ukraine. :(
jnthn missed the Perl workshop in that part of the world this year :(
lolka oooooooooooh! i remembered that!
at that time my mom died :s i didnt touch a computer for 6 months then 19:34
jnthn Ah, that's why you didn't make it... :( Sorry to hear that.
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lolka jnthn: yeah .. my live stopped and i ran out of money and stopped my higher education plans then later god helped a little ^_^ 19:36
jnthn :) 19:37
Hope things are rather better now.
lolka i have 9 souls as mom once said :P a survivor :)
jnthn Just like a cat. :) 19:38
lolka i look a little like cat :P
jnthn Awww :D
jnthn would get a cat if he didn't travel so often. 19:39
lolka i had a huge cat ! he was a master in eating and falling asleep hahaha :D 19:40
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lolka jnthn: i just got hired as a UX junior :) i do not even have any university degree so am lucky i got it :s 19:41
jnthn: but the problem is that am not sure what is ux except that it stands for user experience :s
jnthn Time to start learning! :) 19:42
moritz that's why you're junior, not senior :-)
jnthn Hmmm...working in UX probably means spending the day trying to find ways to make other people's lives easier. :)
moritz lolka: congratulations on the new job
lolka moritz: thanxxxxx ^_^
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lolka jnthn: yeah i think i will love it :D 19:43
jnthn lolka: Hope it works out well for you. :)
lolka jnthn: well i will have to take it seriously or i will have no food :s
lolka: i offered to work as a UI developer but there are tens of them :s 19:44
all with university degrees
while i have no degree :(
jnthn :(
moritz r: say 'X'.ord - 'I'.ord 19:45
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«15␤»
moritz only 15 chars apart :-)
jnthn lolka: Do you have chance to continue studying at some point, or is that hard to arrange?
moritz: That's more than half an alphabet away! :P 19:46
lolka jnthn: i have a secret plan to do that :) maybe next year.. will go back home and continue :) 19:47
moritz jnthn: well, considering it's two chars...
nr: $_ = 'UI'; ++$_ for ^15; .say
p6eval niecza v19-13-g442e075: OUTPUT«UI␤» 19:48
..rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«Cannot assign to a non-container␤ in sub prefix:<++> at src/gen/CORE.setting:2771␤ in block <anon> at /tmp/UVc9OKaRme:1␤␤»
moritz erm, yes
nr: my $a = 'UI'; ++$a for ^15; $a.say
p6eval rakudo ee86a5, niecza v19-13-g442e075: OUTPUT«UX␤»
lolka good night all .. its time to go zzzz.... 19:50
jnthn lolka: Sweet dreams o/
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UncleFester6 r: my %m; our %o; %m{2} = 4; %o{3} = 6; say %m; say %o; say %m.perl; say %o.perl 19:53
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«("2" => 4).hash␤("3" => 6).hash␤("2" => 4).hash␤{"3" => 6}␤»
bbkr STD allows "m:nth(Mu)//" while in latest Rakudo it is runtime error "Nominal type check failed for parameter '$nth'; expected Any but got Mu instead". I'm confused now what is desired behavior here. To accept Mu and fail match or to throw runtime error as given? 19:54
jnthn Well, STD only checks syntax.
bbkr Or to accept Mu and match (just like "m:nth(Any)") 19:55
jnthn Rakudo run with -c will tell you that the syntax is fine, I suspect :)
bbkr yes, syntax is fine
jnthn I guess it's constrained to Any because most parameters are (and thus they auto-thread if you stick a junction there). 19:56
bbkr so runtime error is desired behavior here 19:57
jnthn It doesn't surprise me. Is there a ticket about this? 19:59
(I'm curious why you're asking.)
bbkr consistent for example with other Mu uses like "my @a; @a[Mu]" which is accepted by STD but throws runtime error in rakudo
jnthn Well, that's still a syntax/semantics distinction. 20:00
UncleFester6 Any reason %o.perl comes out different from the others? I am tempted to add it as a note to rt 102876 together with a comment that our %h = ('A' => 2) is not fixed yet.
bbkr it's ticket rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=77408
jnthn Rakudo has to constrain that thing to Any so junctions work.
UncleFester6: Hmmm...I can kinda imagine what's going on there. 20:01
UncleFester6: I agree it shouldn't be different.
UncleFester6 Ok - thx. I will update the ticket ... 20:02
jnthn bbkr: Infinite recursion was wrong for sure.
bbkr: Not accepting Mu is fine.
bbkr jnthn: I was asking because Coke described successful match as desired behavior earlier. I'll update ticket with info about not accepting Mu and close it after tests. 20:04
jnthn: thanks
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dalek ast: 9973e0d | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S05-modifier/counted-match.t:
:nth does not accept Mu param, RT #77408
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dalek ast: 6dff118 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S05-metasyntax/unknown.t:
unescaped "-" is not valid regular expression metasyntax, RT #77110
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hoelzro is there a known version of NativeCall that works on Rakudo Star? 20:43
jnthn hoelzro: Rakudo Star includes NativeCall. 20:44
hoelzro I'm trying to install DBIish, and it's pulling down NativeCall as a dependency
jnthn Ah
I guess 'cus panda doesn't know about the installed NativeCall... 20:45
hoelzro: DBIish was included with latest Rakudo Star also, btw. 20:46
hoelzro oh, that's good!
dalek ast: a1bcc18 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S02-types/hash.t:
array-indexing a hash with a negative index is Failure, RT 77598
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dalek ast: f7a2e33 | (Pawel Pabian)++ | S02-types/set.t:
variable of Set type inside set does not duplicate elements, RT #107022
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bbkr we're down to 600 tickets in RT! 21:06
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jnthn bbkr++ 21:10
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lue How would you place the :i modifier on a regex in $item ~~ /regex/ ? I'm guessing $item ~~ :i/regex/ 21:12
jnthn on l'inside
/:i $regex/ 21:13
er
/:i regex/
:)
In this case you could also do $item ~~ m:i/regex/
lue ah. S05 (after searching through it) mentions m/:i <stuff> / but not anything without the m in front. 21:14
tadzik r: gist.github.com/3118686 21:26
p6eval rakudo ee86a5: OUTPUT«2.5 1␤»
tadzik I like it more than I should
jnthn :P 21:33
cognominal__ tadzik, next you will propose regexen to recognize operators so as to be able to have a long enough divider line… 21:36
tadzik :) 21:37
jnthn That should be possible at some point...
cognominal__ Where do we stop? eventually perl6 slangs will accept DOM trees as input. btw, I am not there yet to generate DOM trees from nqp parse trees but making progress thx to jnthn. 21:43
I wish I had more thorougly read pmichaud slides when starting that endeavor. 21:44
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lue wonders if a $(*||?)COL variable would help with variable-length fraction line 21:54
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[Coke] sees something in backscroll about someone looking for a job. Coke has an opening in Albany NY, but suspects this it out of area. 22:41
colomon [Coke]! \o/ 22:43
[Coke] wonders if there is a jobs.perl.org for jobs that have nothing to do with perl, but would still be of interest to people who like perl. ;()
er, ;)
colomon: ys?
colomon just celebrating your presence. 22:45
thou phenny: tell masak that introspection on params doesn't work as he expects when methods are declared via the 'handles <foo bar>' syntax: friendpaste.com/2kF2g0nQpVE0GzrKaEE7HA in particular, the args show up as a capture. Also, current nom doesn't call it positional, while rakudo-star 2012.06 does; but either way, the crypt.pl code is bound to break on this. 22:49
phenny thou: I'll pass that on when masak is around.
thou i'm not sure how to inspect the capture itself in that case to get the usable params 22:51
Juerd [Coke]: Earlier today I killed one of your monos 22:54
[Coke]: It was eating lots of memory. 22:55
[Coke] ugh.
colomon: so if you fail more tests, that's why.
Juerd: danke. 22:56
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colomon running out of memory? 22:58
or you haven't actually run the spectest in a while?
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thou phenny: tell masak also looks like the connection from hill south to chamber is missing in current bin/crypt . 23:15
phenny thou: I'll pass that on when masak is around.
[Coke] colomon: run it every day. 23:17
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masak is $home again 23:37
phenny masak: 22:49Z <thou> tell masak that introspection on params doesn't work as he expects when methods are declared via the 'handles <foo bar>' syntax: friendpaste.com/2kF2g0nQpVE0GzrKaEE7HA in particular, the args show up as a capture. Also, current nom doesn't call it positional, while rakudo-star 2012.06 does; but either way, the crypt.pl code is bound to break on this.
masak: 23:15Z <thou> tell masak also looks like the connection from hill south to chamber is missing in current bin/crypt .
thou erm, ignore that last one
s/last/second/
masak thou: hm, I thought I fix'd the handles one. maybe I didn't.
thou masak: it *happens* to work w/ rakudo star 23:38
masak I almost submitted a bug report on it, but jnthn said it was s'posed to be that way.
thou but code is still depending on the number of params
masak yeah, the second one is meant to be a connection established by opening the hidden door.
thou and you won't get it, you'll get a single |$c capture
oh, and the july-9-things-and-descriptions blog post has wrong URL for the last commit. it should be github.com/masak/crypt/commit/fcd3...a6072ab464 23:39
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masak will fix tomorrow. 23:40
also, today's post is not forthcoming today.
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masak I'm going to bed, and writing it up tomorrow morning. 23:40
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masak I missed my blog writing slot, because the last bus didn't have electric outlets. 23:41
thou good night!
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masak but I did all the work, and pushed it to github, so it's there if anyone's curious. 23:41
thou++ # finding stuff
'night, #perl6 23:42
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