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Mouq Oh, so the :{…} is an adverb to the postcircumfix…? 00:03
timotimo maybe
this section isn't worded clearly enough for me :) 00:04
for all those who don't follow #moarvm: jnthn has been doing cool stuff for MVM's bytecode specializer to allow it to take advantage of knowledge of types for method and sub calls
this is an optimization that will benefit rakudo more than nqp, the previous optimizations were most noticable on nqp, i feel 00:05
Mouq Although I'm not sure `when not /^\./` is valid…
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Mouq I think just `:{ not m/^\./ }` would make more sense 00:06
timotimo i'm not sure about that either
lue r: my @a; say [&&] @a; # can't say I totally agree with this... 00:07
Mouq m: 1 + 1 :{ 1 }
camelia rakudo-parrot c2cc4f, rakudo-jvm c2cc4f, rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«True␤»
rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«===SORRY!===␤Cannot find method 'has_compile_time_value'␤»
timotimo so which synopsis was i looking at again ... 00:08
Mouq n: 1 + 1 :{ 1 }
camelia niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: Cannot call infix:<+>; none of these signatures match:␤ Any, Any␤ ␤ at /tmp/Tu6dY9XCSS line 1 (mainline @ 3) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 4595 (ANON @ 3) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setti…»
Mouq std: 1 + 1 :{ 1 }
camelia std e347792: OUTPUT«ok 00:01 124m␤»
timotimo 16b83354 S02.pod (lwall 2008-11-27 07:46:29 +0000 3735) This just naturally falls out from the preceding rules because the 00:09
this line is OLD :)
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Mouq n: sub infix:<+> (*@a, *%h) { say @a; say %h }; 1 + 1 :{ 1 } 00:10
camelia niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«1 1␤{"" => { ... }}␤»
timotimo slight amendments have happened to that text in 2010
Mouq n: sub infix:<+> (*@a, *%h) { say @a; say %h }; 1 + 1 :{ 1 }:b
camelia niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«1 1␤{"" => { ... }, "b" => Bool::True}␤»
timotimo maybe mister wall would like to give this another glance
ah, so :{...} is really just sugar for "" => {...} 00:11
at least that piece of the mystery is explained
Mouq p6: say (:{ 1 + 1}).WHAT
camelia niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«(Pair)␤»
..rakudo-parrot c2cc4f, rakudo-jvm c2cc4f, rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«(Block)␤»
Mouq ^^ :/
timotimo er, huh. 00:12
r: say (:{ 1 + 1 }).perl
camelia rakudo-parrot c2cc4f, rakudo-jvm c2cc4f, rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«Block.new()␤»
Mouq p6: say (:[1, 1]).WHAT
timotimo this surprises me.
camelia rakudo-parrot c2cc4f, rakudo-jvm c2cc4f, rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«(Array)␤»
..niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«(Pair)␤»
Mouq I think Rakudo is just wrong
p6: say (:a[1, 1]).WHAT
camelia rakudo-parrot c2cc4f, rakudo-jvm c2cc4f, rakudo-moar c2cc4f, niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«(Pair)␤»
Mouq But maybe I am
timotimo :foo[ ... ] was new to me 00:13
=time make -j4 m-install 91,26s user 0,76s system 115% cpu 1:19,79 total 00:20
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timotimo =time make -j4 m-install 94,07s user 0,68s system 115% cpu 1:22,23 total 00:23
first one with spesh, second one without
without spesh peaked at 10 megabytes less maxrss 00:24
(this is a clean rakudo build)
Mouq woo! 00:25
Mouq has to go
o/ #perl6
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timotimo when NQP's optimizer stops being utterly scared of regexes, it should be even better 00:26
colomon m: say 2**256t 00:37
camelia rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/CF_1dYxy8s␤Confused␤at /tmp/CF_1dYxy8s:1␤------> say 2**256⏏t␤ expecting any of:␤ whitespace␤»
colomon m: say 2**256
camelia rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936␤»
TimToady orelse was not intended to imply a 'try' on the left side 00:55
just check for undefined
timotimo oh?
then what does "exception semantics" mean? :)
TimToady otherwise we impose mandatory try overhead on everything
timotimo good to know
so the tests need fixed 00:56
TimToady where does it say 'exception semantics'?
timotimo perl6.org/compilers/features#footnote_7
TimToady that's...not the spec :)
anyway, the original intent was that you use explicit try if that's what you want 00:57
timotimo that does sound acceptable
TimToady now if try has no overhead, we could rethink that
but I'd like my compilers to be fast
timotimo so ... the only difference between orelse and // is that if the right side is a block it gets all arguments set to the previous value and if it's not a block, it'll get $! bound in its scope?
TimToady and andthen/orelse are what I wished I had when emitting P5 code for viv 00:58
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TimToady yes, it's the retopicalization that is desirable 00:59
timotimo good
TimToady if you look at the output of viv, STD.pm5, you'll see bazillions of assignments and redefinitions of $C 01:01
it would be lovely to be able to feed those cursors through as the current topic, and that's basically what andthen does 01:02
timotimo mhm 01:06
andthen seems already implemented correctly to my eyes
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TimToady but viv doesn't use exceptions (except to do a 'cut' on large backtracking occasionally) 01:08
timotimo and viv is still dramatically fast at what it does, isn't it? :P
TimToady for having been implemented in P5, yes :)
nobody ever tried to write a Perl compiler in Perl before... 01:09
let alone a Perl 6 compiler :)
well, there's PPI, but that's not close to a complete parser even 01:11
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TimToady
.oO(reading a large backlog based on a false premise is not my favorite thing to do...)
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timotimo i'm sorry about that. it's probably in big part my fault :| 01:14
i blame the person who wrote the annotation to the features comparison
TimToady well, I just wish I'd specced it better
or noticed the footnote :)
woulda saved you some work 01:15
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timotimo ah well 01:17
TimToady n: say "[aaaaa]" ~~ / '[' ~ ']' .+? / 01:18
camelia niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: Unable to parse anonymous regex␤Couldn't find final ']'; gave up␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 1536 (die @ 5) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 2962 (Cursor.FAILGOAL @ 6) ␤ at /tmp/pY59YxmYv…»
TimToady n: say "[aaaaa]" ~~ / '[' ~ ']' <-[ \] ]>+? / 01:19
camelia niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: Unable to parse anonymous regex␤Couldn't find final ']'; gave up␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 1536 (die @ 5) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 2962 (Cursor.FAILGOAL @ 6) ␤ at /tmp/2nY_9EgA9…»
TimToady n: say "[aaaaa]" ~~ / '[' ~ ']' [.+?] /
camelia niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«Unhandled exception: Unable to parse anonymous regex␤Couldn't find final ']'; gave up␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 1536 (die @ 5) ␤ at /home/p6eval/niecza/lib/CORE.setting line 2962 (Cursor.FAILGOAL @ 6) ␤ at /tmp/vMqjv9Mab…»
TimToady hmm
n: say "[aaaaa]" ~~ / '[' ~ ']' a* / 01:20
camelia niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«｢[aaaaa]｣␤␤»
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TimToady n: say "[aaaaa]" ~~ / '[' ~ ']' [<!before ']'> .]+ / 01:23
camelia niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«｢[aaaaa]｣␤␤»
TimToady dunno what was teh matter with my neg cclass
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TimToady I would like to see a use case for confusing the Promise type with the Channel type before we proceed further with confusing them 01:32
I think jnthn++'s proposal of allowing a Promise to be coerced to a Channel is much simpler 01:33
wandering &
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timotimo m: say $*PERL 02:16
camelia rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«("name" => "rakudo", "compiler" => {"name" => "rakudo", "ver" => "2014.03.01-72-gc2cc4fd", "release-number" => "", "build-date" => "2014-04-05T20:17:24Z", "codename" => ""}).hash␤»
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lue That's awfully Associative for a Scalar :) 02:39
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[Coke] wants .WAT to be an alias to .WHAT 03:33
lue [Coke]: WAT feels like a thing you call when you demand answers from the compiler. try { 1 == 1; CATCH { WAT } } 03:35
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moritz lue: WAT feels like an alias to WHY (access to documentation) for me 06:45
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lizmat good *, #perl6! 07:47
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lizmat TimToady: if we coerce a Promise to a Channel, when will the Channel be closed? After executing .result? Or manually ? 07:48
and how would we know the difference between a real Channel and a Promise coerced to a Channel?
if we would need to close the Channel "manually" 07:49
breakfast&
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tadzik hello #perl6 09:00
lizmat tadzik o/
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dalek nda: 3be5bd5 | (Andrew Egeler)++ | lib/Panda/Builder.pm:
Remove old Build class when using Build.pm

If two packages with Build.pm files were installed during the same panda run (example: "panda install MIME::Base64 Auth::PAM::Simple"), the second and subsequent packages would all fail to build, as the Build class already existed when the Build.pm file attempted to create it.		 09:08
nda: b24c561 | tadzik++ | lib/Panda/Builder.pm:
Merge pull request #75 from retupmoca/master

Remove old Build class when using Build.pm
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dalek nda: 99da3b3 | (Andrew Egeler)++ | / (2 files):
Read from all state files we can find

Not just the first writable one we find. This (for example) allows a (root) install of perl6+panda into /usr/local; along with some modules such as URI and MIME::Base64. A user can then run 'panda install LWP::Simple' and will not need to reinstall URI and MIME::Base64, because panda will now see the modules installed in /usr/local		 09:22
nda: 73c2ade | (Andrew Egeler)++ | bin/panda:
Don't read extra statefiles if doing site install

This could cause problems if there were modules installed in
  /root/.perl6 for example. If we're doing a site install, all
dependents need to be in site as well.
nda: c19fb6b | tadzik++ | / (2 files):
Merge pull request #76 from retupmoca/multistate

Read from all state files we can find
jnthn m: my $ansprom = start { 42 }; sub p2c($p) { my $c = Channel.new; $p.then({ $p.status == Kept ?? $c.send($p.result) !! $c.fail($p.excuse) }); $c }; my $ansc = p2c($ansprom); say $c.receive 09:31
camelia rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/r0vWXjwti5␤Variable '$c' is not declared␤at /tmp/r0vWXjwti5:1␤------> my $ansc = p2c($ansprom); say $c.receive⏏<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ method arguments␤»
jnthn m: my $ansprom = start { 42 }; sub p2c($p) { my $c = Channel.new; $p.then({ $p.status == Kept ?? $c.send($p.result) !! $c.fail($p.excuse) }); $c }; my $ansc = p2c($ansprom); say $ansc.receive
camelia rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«(signal ABRT)42␤»
jnthn lizmat: ^^
TimToady, lizmat: In the early days of the promise/channel work, there was no more/done. Instead, you did select on a "completed" promise exposed by the channel. And there was no array form. 09:33
FROGGS[mobile] "in the early days"... wow, how time flies *g* 09:36
lizmat hehe
it seems to me to be a lot of overhead to turn a Promise into a Channel 09:38
jnthn I don't think it's too bad. 09:40
And I don't know it'll be an especially common thing.
Oh, it should $c.close in the kept path there too.
Thing is that promises complete asynchronously, and channels are things you wait for a value from synchronously. 09:41
Those boundaries are always tricky.
lizmat indeed 09:42
but you may not always wait for values on channels synchronously
in any case, I'm removing Redeem from the spec now 09:44
if we would have anything like that, it would be orthogonal to the status of the Promise
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dalek ecs: 4134f88 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | S17-concurrency.pod:
Remove Redeemed/.redeem
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lizmat so now we need to keep state outside of the outcome :-( 09:51
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timotimo o/ 11:00
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dalek kudo/nom: f6e6650 | jnthn++ | src/core/Int.pm:
Optimize -- and ++ to not box a fresh 1 each time.

Just use the one from the constant pool.		 12:04
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timotimo ooooh 12:07
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vendethiel r: my $i; say ++$i; # was that implemented not-so-long ago ? 12:15
camelia rakudo-parrot c2cc4f, rakudo-jvm c2cc4f, rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«1␤»
vendethiel because most of the perl6 code I see uses x =x +1
timotimo native ints can't do it yet
that would be why
vendethiel r: my int $i; say ++$i; # was that implemented not-so-long ago ? 12:16
camelia rakudo-jvm c2cc4f: OUTPUT«Cannot modify an immutable value␤ in sub prefix:<++> at gen/jvm/CORE.setting:4430␤ in sub prefix:<++> at gen/jvm/CORE.setting:1779␤ in block at /tmp/tmpfile:1␤␤»
..rakudo-parrot c2cc4f: OUTPUT«Cannot modify an immutable value␤ in sub prefix:<++> at gen/parrot/CORE.setting:4434␤ in sub prefix:<++> at gen/parrot/CORE.setting:1783␤ in block at /tmp/tmpfile:1␤␤»
..rakudo-moar c2cc4f: OUTPUT«No such method 'STORE' for invocant of type 'Int'␤ in sub prefix:<++> at src/gen/m-CORE.setting:4430␤ in sub prefix:<++> at src/gen/m-CORE.setting:1779␤ in block at /tmp/tmpfile:1␤␤»
vendethiel fair enough
timotimo it has not been implemented :)
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jnthn No, it's not done. 12:29
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pippo m: say "[aaaa], [aa]" ~~ / ['[' ~ ']' <-[\]]>+]+ % ',' /; 13:05
camelia rakudo-moar f6e665: OUTPUT«｢[aaaa]｣␤␤»
timotimo pippo: if you want to match both groups of aas in brackets, the + % needs to group around the whole thing i believe 13:07
er
it does
sorry
you probably need to enable sigspace fo rthat to work or use ', '
pippo m: say "[aa], [aa]" ~~ / ['[' ~ ']' <-[\]]>+]+ % ', ' /; 13:13
camelia rakudo-moar f6e665: OUTPUT«｢[aa], [aa]｣␤␤»
pippo m: say "[aa], [aaaaa]" ~~ / ['[' ~ ']' <-[\]]>+]+ % ', ' /;
camelia rakudo-moar f6e665: OUTPUT«｢[aa], [aaaaa]｣␤␤»
pippo Yep! Thank you timotimo!
timotimo yw :) 13:14
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ribasushi where do I find the writeup on namespaces and authorities and all that 13:29
timotimo is that for packaging and stuff? 13:30
timotimo not actually sure
perlcabal.org/syn/S22.html - could what you seek be in here? probably not in S11, though 13:32
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ribasushi no 13:37
I meant... when you say 'use X' in perl6 land
and when you need to address globals
and when you need to instantiate objects of an external class not loaded by you 13:38
how all of this fits together on the language side, packaging aside
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jnthn Sounds like S11 13:38
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timotimo that does sound more like S11 than S22 13:39
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ribasushi cheer guys, will look in S11 13:39
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JimmyZ hmm, How does rakudo use NQP::Optimizer? 14:05
jnthn Well, a bunch of Rakudo is written in NQP 14:06
NQP::Optimizer isn't applicable to Perl 6 code, however.
It makes loads of assumptions that are safe in NQP, but not in full Perl 6.
JimmyZ Does the core.setting use nqp's lexical => local lowering? 14:07
jnthn No, because it's Perl 6 code. 14:08
We can do lex => loc, but the analysis is a good bit harder in Perl 6.
JimmyZ Ha, I thought it does
jnthn For one, NQP has no eval, no pseudo packages, no "is context"...
Also, no scalar containers. 14:09
So it will be quite a bit more work/care to do that opt on Perl 6 code.
JimmyZ I had gotten the pain when nqp was assuming things are safe in NQP :P 14:12
jnthn Yes, well, the point of NQP is being able to assume stuff. 14:13
And having a simpler language.
JimmyZ aye
vendethiel so there'll be a Rakudo::optimizer later :p ? 14:14
JimmyZ There already is
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jnthn There is, it just doesn't know this opt yet 14:16
JimmyZ always thinks opt is short for option :P 14:17
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timotimo i just casually tuned in to a random twitch channel to see the wind waker any% world record get taken by some german :) 17:18
vendethiel timotimo: Kreygasm. Link for VoD ? 17:20
please :)
timotimo find it on koljai7's channel 17:23
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timotimo perl6-m ../moarvm/tools/spesh_diff.p6 settinglog.txt 1634,40s user 162,73s system 98% cpu 30:31,86 total 17:26
heh heh heh
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Mouq realizes that Thing.new: :foobar; is equivalent to Thing.new :foobar 18:08
timotimo it is? o_O 18:09
hm, i guess
Mouq p6: class Foo { has $.color }; my $foo = Foo.new :color<blue>; say $foo.color 18:10
camelia rakudo-parrot f6e665, rakudo-jvm f6e665, rakudo-moar f6e665, niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«blue␤»
Mouq p6: class Foo { has $.color; has $.fruit; }; my $foo = Foo.new :color<blue>:fruit<star>; say $foo.color; say $foo.fruit; 18:11
camelia rakudo-parrot f6e665, rakudo-jvm f6e665, rakudo-moar f6e665, niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«blue␤star␤»
Mouq p6: class Foo { has $.color; has $.fruit; }; my $foo = Foo.new :color<blue>,:fruit<star>; say $foo.color; say $foo.fruit;
camelia rakudo-parrot f6e665, rakudo-jvm f6e665, rakudo-moar f6e665: OUTPUT«WARNINGS:␤Useless use of "," in expression "my $foo = Foo.new :color<blue>,:fruit<star>" in sink context (line 1)␤blue␤(Any)␤» 18:12
..niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«blue␤(Any)␤»
Mouq p6: class Foo { has $.color; has $.fruit; }; my $foo = Foo.new :color<blue> :fruit<star>; say $foo.color; say $foo.fruit;
camelia rakudo-parrot f6e665, rakudo-jvm f6e665, rakudo-moar f6e665, niecza v24-109-g48a8de3: OUTPUT«blue␤star␤»
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lizmat
.oO( Foo Fruit, The Best There Is (TM) )
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.oO( Fruit Of The Foo )
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moritz
.oO( Foorier Transform )
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lizmat
.oO( Having a Foo Fruit Smoothie at the Foo Bar )
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dalek ast: cc7720a | (David Warring [email@hidden.address] | integration/advent2013-day20.t:
adding advent 2013 day 20
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vendethiel r: my @a = 5; say $a; 19:30
camelia rakudo-parrot f6e665, rakudo-jvm f6e665, rakudo-moar f6e665: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/tmpfile␤Variable '$a' is not declared. Did you mean '@a'?␤at /tmp/tmpfile:1␤------> my @a = 5; say $a⏏;␤ expecting any of:␤…»
vendethiel r: my $a = (5); say @a;
camelia rakudo-parrot f6e665, rakudo-jvm f6e665, rakudo-moar f6e665: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/tmpfile␤Variable '@a' is not declared. Did you mean '$a'?␤at /tmp/tmpfile:1␤------> my $a = (5); say @a⏏;␤ expecting any of:…»
vendethiel "@ as shortcut for @$, % as shortcut for %$" for what ?
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jnthn vendethiel: I *think* if that's recent it refers to match object access 19:33
@<foo>
vendethiel makes sense, yes
timotimo i've tried to $filehandler.print: "text to put into the file"; d'oh 19:34
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timotimo i'm confused 19:36
Mouq vendethiel: Original description: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/456f3aa9b
That got distorted
vendethiel thanks Mouq. Didn't grasp it from the rakudo star posts 19:37
dalek kudo/nom: eb85757 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | t/spectest.data:
Add advent2013-20 tests to roast
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lizmat dwarring++ 19:39
timotimo dwarring++ 19:44
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dwarring Perl 6 addict :-) 20:11
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vendethiel `panda -h` gives me full path for `panda` with double-escaped `\` every line 20:31
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timotimo why woul dthere be \ in the path? 20:35
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geekosaur windows? 20:37
vendethiel yes
also, `panda search` exits with "no icu lib loaded" 20:38
timotimo ah, that's panda then
er
parrot
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dalek ecs: 6e8b79e | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | S17-concurrency.pod:
Move introduction of outcome {} after Channel

The way it was, we're starting to discuss Channels in the context of outcome before we specced what a Channel is.		 20:46
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dalek ecs: c4db4e1 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | S17-concurrency.pod:
Remove mention of outcome in Channel spec

It is mentioned in the "outcome" spec, so premature here.		 21:08
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PYTHONLOVER why should i learn perl? 21:12
dalek ecs: 9089b24 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | S17-concurrency.pod:
Clarify that outcome takes Promises* and Channels*

As in zero or more
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PYTHONLOVER ? 21:13
lizmat why should I learn Python ?
PYTHONLOVER because it's still used, and has corporate sponsors and funding 21:14
geekosaur you are claiming that perl isn't used. interesting blindness
PYTHONLOVER name one fortune 500 who uses perl for anything
Quom PYTHONLOVER: Are you trying to imply that Perl isn't used, have corporate sponsors or funding?
geekosaur also you're picking on the wrong channel, or maybe you're just avoiding the truth
can I name 500? 21:15
lizmat decides not to feed the troll any further
Quom lizmat: Yeah
lizmat gnight #perl6!
Quom night lizmat++!
PYTHONLOVER +camelia +dalek +hugme +ilogger2 +yoleaux _sri a3gis Alina-malina Alula amkrankruleuen anocelot apejens araujo arnsholt ascent_ ashleydev atrodo atta avar avuserow awwaiid baest bcode beastd BinGOs bjz BooK bowtie_ breinbaas broquaint brother btyler_ Bucciarati Celelibi charsbar_______2 cibs ClarusCogitatio clkao cognominal cooper corecatcher cosimo - whois - query cotto crazedpsyc cxreg d0nk dagurval_ DarthGandalf daxim_ denis_bo
WHY CANT I SLAP PEOPLE WITH FISH!!] 21:16
Long live python
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PYTHONLOVER motherfuckrers 21:16
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Quom ಠ_ಠ 21:16
Alina-malina wow
what was that?
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timotimo that was certainly successful. 21:16
lizmat first they mock you, then they fight you, then you win
Alina-malina shithead lol
tadzik ...but...but you can slap people with fish
Quom Alina-malina: Someone making the Python community look bad
lizmat real sleep now& 21:17
Alina-malina hehe
timotimo Alina-malina: watch the language
Alina-malina timotimo, python?
timotimo you know what i mean :)
Alina-malina hmmm
timotimo i just thought the mean word you said was kind of not nice 21:18
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Alina-malina timotimo, it was for """pythonlover""" 21:19
cognominal hating a (supposedly) dead language, what for? 21:20
timotimo yes, but nobody deserves hate
tadzik some think it's making them look better
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Quom realizes that he can make writing "ಠ_ಠ" an alt-command with his keyboard mapper :D 21:22
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tadzik I have ~/fatfaces for that :P 21:22
. o O ( I see plenty of new faces ) 21:23
lue r: my $ಠ_ಠ = 42; say $ಠ_ಠ 21:24
camelia rakudo-parrot eb8575, rakudo-jvm eb8575, rakudo-moar eb8575: OUTPUT«42␤»
Quom r: say +«( :ಠ_ಠ )»+ 21:25
camelia rakudo-parrot eb8575, rakudo-jvm eb8575, rakudo-moar eb8575: OUTPUT«===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/tmpfile␤Two terms in a row␤at /tmp/tmpfile:1␤------> say +«( :ಠ_ಠ )»+⏏<EOL>␤ expecting any of:␤ postfix␤ …»
Quom isn't sure why he expected »+ to work 21:26
dwarring r: constant ಠ_ಠ = 42; say ಠ_ಠ
camelia rakudo-parrot eb8575, rakudo-jvm eb8575, rakudo-moar eb8575: OUTPUT«42␤»
jnthn .u ಠ
yoleaux U+0CA0 KANNADA LETTER TTHA [Lo] (ಠ)
jnthn Hm, I thought the used latin script in kannada... :P 21:27
lue imagines ಠ_ಠ as a more disapproving version of !!!
Quom r: sub term:<ಠ_ಠ> { die "Seriously?" }; sub foo { 1 + 2 + ಠ_ಠ }
camelia ( no output )
Quom r: sub term:<ಠ_ಠ> { die "Seriously?" }; sub foo { 1 + 2 + ಠ_ಠ }; foo
camelia rakudo-parrot eb8575, rakudo-jvm eb8575, rakudo-moar eb8575: OUTPUT«Seriously?␤ in sub term:<ಠ_ಠ> at /tmp/tmpfile:1␤ in sub foo at /tmp/tmpfile:1␤ in block at /tmp/tmpfile:1␤␤» 21:28
Quom Also, was playing around earlier; I'm really happy that the REPL works on MoarVM now, having only realized a few days ago! But is it known that it screws up moving the cursor when nonASCII chars are in play? 21:30
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lue Quom: are you sure that's not your terminal? I know mine hates anything that isn't the same width as the normal monospace width. 21:31
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lue Something in rakudo's Pod parser is replacing U+10FFFB and U+10FFFC (but not U+10FFFD, strangely enough) with spaces, can't tell what's doing it yet :/ 21:46
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Quom lue: Oh, hm, maybe 21:55
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Quom lue: But at the very least backspace on a non-ASCII char just truncates the last byte, producing a malformed char :( 21:58
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lue yeah, that's not good. 22:00
Quom And I can insert characters into other characters
Quom &
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dalek ast: 0b5b55b | (David Warring [email@hidden.address] | integration/advent2013-day1 (2 files):
fudging supply/promise/channel for parrot
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dalek ast: 825948d | (David Warring [email@hidden.address] | integration/advent2013-day15.t:
jvm fudge typo
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