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Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: dd123505c8 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 4 files
Implement rudimentary CPAN dist processor
 00:21
Zoffix Well, that was easy... It's almost as if the original designer of the site thought ahead and imagined one day we'd have more than one dist source :} 00:22
Zoffix One thing I don't get is how to handle dists that exist on both CPAN and p6c ecosystem... Currently, it indexes them as if they were entirely differnt dists :/ 00:22
I think I'm gonna leave it like that though. To encourage people who use CPAN to toss the dist from p6c. We could have some key in `support` for repository so that the site could link to it even for CPAN dists 00:24
heh, I see ./id/J/JO/JONATHAN/Perl6/NativeCall-v1.meta in CPAN dists that looks to link to jnthn/zavolaj, which is a 404 00:26
Geth perl6-most-wanted: 0b94ef197f | (David Warring)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | most-wanted/modules.md
Update modules.md

Note WIP on Font::Freetype - bindings to the Freetype2 library		 00:34
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 03fa2a7a78 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 4 files
Improve CPAN processor

  - Load last modified time
  - Make dist processor skip the interval pause, since we don't need it
  - Don't run the meta checker post processor		 00:55
Zoffix calls it a day 01:28
Zoffix upgrading perl on the modules.perl6.org. I'm pretty sure I installed a new perl along the old one and so the site won't be affected until I `switch` to newer perl instead of `use`ing it on the current shell (still installing all the deps). But mentioning this in case things explode 02:40
... I'm going to bed
BenGoldberg wonders why all thirteen of the *able6 bots simultaneously quit then reconnected. Is it because we've got an unlucky number of them? . o O(Where's a hobbit when you need one) 03:42
redhands How can I force stdout autoflush on every write? 03:47
samcv how do i get chdir to chdir taking into account a Path::IO's CWD? 05:37
i made a Path::IO object, but if i chdir into it, it ignores the CWD associated with the IO object
.IO.absolute.IO works but is there a trivial way to fix it without doing that? 05:38
u-ou What value should I use to denote the absence of a value? Is the answer Nil? 06:09
hoffentlichja u-ou: Any 06:09
u-ou ahh
what's Nil for then?
hoffentlichja m: sub r() {}; r; 06:11
camelia ( no output )
hoffentlichja m: sub r() {}; say r;
camelia Nil
u-ou ic 06:13
hoffentlichja u-ou: you can check if a variable is defined with .defined or you can use "with" and "without" 06:14
m: my $x; say $x.defined;
camelia False
hoffentlichja m: my $s; say 'not defined?' without $s; 06:15
camelia not defined?
u-ou m: say so Any
camelia False
u-ou cool
sena_kun lizmat, ping? 06:41
geekosaur suggest you .tell; think lizmat's asleep at this time of * 07:01
sena_kun I can wait, so no problem. But thanks, I guess I'll .tell in a hour or two then. 07:02
HoboWithAShotgun welcome to another week full of ungrateful customers, dyslexic management and unrealistic deadlines 07:10
geekosaur ...I didn't think this was #lopsa >.>
sena_kun .tell lizmat hi! there is a rakudo regression for cro, that gives me "Serialization Error: missing static code ref for closure '' (src/Perl6/World.nqp:2217)". I am not sure how bad it is, but I hope it is not. ping me for a way to reproduce(or better .tell) if it's obscure enough. thanks. 08:27
yoleaux sena_kun: I'll pass your message to lizmat.
grondilu how can adding a C<note "foo"> prevent a "Cannot look up attributes in a Pair type object" error? 08:42
lizmat .
yoleaux 08:27Z <sena_kun> lizmat: hi! there is a rakudo regression for cro, that gives me "Serialization Error: missing static code ref for closure '' (src/Perl6/World.nqp:2217)". I am not sure how bad it is, but I hope it is not. ping me for a way to reproduce(or better .tell) if it's obscure enough. thanks.
lizmat .tell sena_kun will pass it on to jnthn 08:43
yoleaux lizmat: I'll pass your message to sena_kun.
u-ou .tell u-ou i will pass that on to u-ou when u-ou is around 08:52
yoleaux u-ou: Talking to yourself is the first sign of madness.
timotimo grondilu: perhaps the difference between sinking and non-sinking? 09:32
soonix hi can someone help around perl5? 10:16
timotimo you'll want a perl5 focused channel for that 10:19
ilmari unless you mean Inline::Perl5 10:19
soonix there is nobody to help :S 10:20
ilmari soonix: I don't see you on #perl... 10:23
also, nobody can help until you actually ask a question 10:24
hoffentlichja are perl6 programmers still called perl monks? 10:26
lizmat I think only perl monks are called perl monks 10:29
soonix for a school project I have to write OAuth2 where with client_id and client_secret with grant_type = client_credentials I request a token and then I download json with this token 10:32
:(
Does anyone have some examples of how to do this? 10:33
timotimo metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Net-...OAuth2.pod ? 10:34
you can literally just put client_id, client_secret and grant_type into Net::OAuth2::Profile::Password->new 10:35
hoffentlichja lizmat: but how do perl programers call themselves? python programmers call themselves pythonistas 10:36
lizmat I would argue that only pythonistas call themselves pythonistas 10:37
or are you saying you cannot be a python programmer without being a pythonista ? 10:38
hoffentlichja lizmat: and what is a pythonista if not a python programmer?
hoffentlichja I'm only saying that programmers from different language communities like to call themselves some way 10:39
timotimo nobody is forcing python programmers to call themselves pythonistas 10:39
lizmat
.oO( friggin' flaky wifi )
hoffentlichja lizmat: I'm only saying that programmers from different language communities like to call themselves some way
timotimo it doesn't matter that pythonistas are "all" python programmers
hoffentlichja timotimo: I know, but programmers choose that, and it's nice sometimes 10:40
timotimo sure
hoffentlichja I was only curious how perl programmers like to call themselves
masak I'm in a situation where I make a small change, and I get the error "Unhandled exception: Cannot find method 'Stringy': no method cache and no .^find_method" 11:27
with a stacktrace from NQP
and I'm having a hard time finding out why my small change is causing this error. any clues? 11:28
timotimo any more info from --ll-exception?
masak ...no. 11:29
jast hoffentlichja: just one data point, but I prefer to not give myself some weird name based on technology I use (except maybe Git) 11:30
timotimo huh
masak it dies in SETTING::src/core/Exception.pm:452 11:31
something called .handle-exception
timotimo oh, ah 11:32
m: BEGIN { die "oh no" }
camelia Unhandled exception: Cannot find method 'Stringy': no method cache and no .^find_method
at SETTING::src/core/Exception.pm:395 (/home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/perl6/runtime/CORE.setting.moarvm:print_exception)
from SETTING::src/core/Exceptio…
hoffentlichja jast: fair enough, but some programmers do that, I wanted to know if perl programmers do that in general and how they refer to themselves, Go programmers like to call themselves gophers because of their mascot
timotimo m: constant foo = die "oh no"
camelia Unhandled exception: Cannot find method 'Stringy': no method cache and no .^find_method
at SETTING::src/core/Exception.pm:395 (/home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-1/share/perl6/runtime/CORE.setting.moarvm:print_exception)
from SETTING::src/core/Exceptio…
masak timotimo: o.O
timotimo it's this
masak so it is.
but what is this? :)
timotimo we got it when we made runnign END phasers happen in HLL land
i think?
jast hoffentlichja: my impression has been that perl programmers don't that too much (apart from monkhood perhaps, but I've never seen that anywhere other than perlmonks, either)
timotimo i had a "fix" but that just caused other things to break in the same way :) 11:33
masak in other words, I should check the things I have that happen at BEGIN time 11:34
timotimo aye
masak heh. managed to narrow down the problem by running my modules least-dependent-first until one broke :P 11:36
yep. found it. 11:37
ok -- so the rule right now is "don't fail at BEGIN time" 11:38
timotimo i wonder if i still have that commit stashed 11:38
timotimo doesn't seem like it 11:39
hoffentlichja jast: I'm new to perl and reading around I've seen a few times "perl monks" mentioned, and got the impression that perl programmers may like to call themselves perl monks, though I'm aware there's a site / forum with that name that comes up often in search results 11:41
timotimo yeah, i think only people who frequent that site call themselves perl monks
hoffentlichja understood :) 11:42
lizmat masak timotimo we should be able to fail at BEGIN time 11:48
timotimo yes, we should :)
timotimo i think we're expecting a low-level exception in the handling code but we're getting a HLL exception object 11:49
hoffentlichja what IDE or code editor do you guys use?
lizmat timotimo: not vice versa? expecting a HLL exception and getting a low level one ? 11:50
timotimo i think it's that way around
MasterDuke hoffentlichja: vim
jast hoffentlichja: vim
timotimo vim, though i haven't set it up well for C coding yet 11:52
hoffentlichja MasterDuke: I'm a vimer as well, although a few months ago I also switched partially to emacs with evil-mode and lately I've been using vscode but the vim extension(s) are lacking, can't seem to fight a right balance anymore, each have their pros and cons but I perl6 support seems to not be so great in either of them
find*
MasterDuke if you're interested in more of an IDE experience, there's github.com/perl6/Atom-as-a-Perl6-IDE
hoffentlichja MasterDuke: I prefer vscode over atom 11:53
MasterDuke never used either myself
heard good and bad about both equally
hoffentlichja I've tried atom in the past but I'd choose vscode anytime though atom has better extension support, still 11:54
MasterDuke maybe you can port the atom perl6 stuff to vscode 11:55
lizmat has a fix for 'BEGIN die' issue 11:58
it's basically the same problem as the sprintf issue
hoffentlichja MasterDuke: it wouldn't be something trivial 11:59
MasterDuke hoffentlichja: no worries, i've got all day :) 12:02
lizmat masak timotimo: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/d76af6aa45
hoffentlichja MasterDuke: what do you mean?
jast to me that sounded like an offer to do all the porting for you ;)
wamba p6: sub pok (Int(Str) $i) {$i.WHAT}; say pok 1 12:03
camelia Type check failed in binding to parameter '$i'; expected Str but got Int (1)
in sub pok at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
hoffentlichja jast: I doubt it but I also wouldn't ask or expect someone to do that for me
MasterDuke ha! other way around! just joking that since i don't use vscode, it doesn't bother me how long the porting takes
hoffentlichja MasterDuke: vscode's algorithm for syntax highlighting is very nice, it doesn't choke on complex syntax and the editor stays smooth, unlike some others 12:05
jast drat. :)
Zoffix hoffentlichja: u-ou Nil is the absense of value. Any is just the default default value parameters/variables have. 12:18
hoffentlichja Zoffix: so if a var has type Any doesn't that mean it has no value? 12:19
Zoffix redhands, it already flushes. IIRC there's currently no buffering on TTY handles. Otherwise, pass :!buffer to .open
samcv: what's the code you're using to chdir? 12:20
o-oh 12:22
hoffentlichja: depends on its `is default` settings, by default it's the type object of the variable's type, or Any if the type is Mu. So it does have a value: the type object. If you assign another type object, that'll be its value. `Nil` job on the other hand is to signal the absence of value, so if you assign `Nil` to a variable, you'll get its `is default` value 12:24
m: my $x is default(42) = Any; say $x
camelia (Any)
Zoffix m: my $x is default(42) = Any; say $x; $x = Nil; say $x
camelia (Any)
42
Zoffix Man, this doesn't chdir() into the right dir :o my $p = IO::Path.new: ".", :CWD</home/zoffix>; chdir $p; dir.say 12:25
I hope it's a new bug and not something missed on IO grant.
hoffentlichja I see 12:26
HoboWithAShotgun is there an operator that calls a method on a thing and keeps calling the method on the return values until it encounters undef or fails, in which case it returns the last valid value 12:31
Zoffix nope
HoboWithAShotgun basically a parent operator as in (imaginative) $root = $some-nested-node..parent 12:32
Zoffix m: my $root = class { has @.stuff = <a b c>; method node { @!stuff.shift } }.new; say do loop { LAST $root<>; .node orelse last with $root;} 12:36
camelia No such method '!capture_phasers' for invocant of type 'Code'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix heh :)
m: my $root = class { has @.stuff = <a b c>; method node { @!stuff.shift } }.new; (loop {$root.node orelse last}).tail.say 12:37
camelia c
Zoffix m: my $root = class { has @.stuff = <a b c>; method node { @!stuff.shift } }.new; ({$root.node} ...^ !*.defined).tail.say 12:41
camelia c
Zoffix :)
.oO( I guess there *is* an operator to do that, after all)
 12:42
Zoffix Looks like the chdir bug existed in all the releases. I'm shocked it made it through IO Grant undiscovered. 12:43
Zoffix I see why :/ got carried away testing all the modes instead of all the paths: github.com/perl6/roast/blob/master...t#L61-L140 12:45
Zoffix ultimately it's a bug due to IO::Path.Str not respecting :CWD ;/ 12:54
lizmat Zoffix: FWIW, IO::Path only has a BUILD call in its BUILDALLPLAN 12:59
Zoffix lizmat: I've no idea what those do :) Is it bad that it only got a BUILD call? 13:00
lizmat no, it means that this is less likely to be a problem related to the auto-generated BUILDALL :-) 13:00
Zoffix Ah, yeah, it's not. It existed in all the releases and we have IO::Path.Str ignore :CWD by design and the bug's due to that "feature" 13:01
jdv79 samcv: i don't think its that solutions aren't known (to the irc log issue). its just tuits. 13:21
Zoffix samcv: fixed that &chdir ignoring :CWD bug you spotted: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/4906a1de8a 13:29
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 1800e0f2b1 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 3 files
Add disambiguation page for /dist route
 14:10
[Coke] . 14:12
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: d46c55353e | (Zoffix Znet)++ | templates/root/search.html.ep
Make search page link to fully qualified /dist pages
 14:13
[Coke] github.com/perl6/doc/blob/a27ba650....pod6#L409 - "mimimum" 14:19
Geth doc: e32604b562 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/regexes.pod6
s/mimimum/minimum/; [Coke]++
 14:31
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes
sena_kun 14:34
yoleaux 08:43Z <lizmat> sena_kun: will pass it on to jnthn
jnthn heh...bug circle :P 14:35
sena_kun yeah, circle. :)
hoffentlichja Zoffix: when do we use .func and when .&func ?
Zoffix hoffentlichja: always .&func and never .func; `.foo` is a method call, so it won't work if there's no method named "func" 14:37
hoffentlichja ah I see, it makes sense
Zoffix m: sub foo { say "subroutine" }; class Foo { method foo { say "method" } }; with Foo.new { .foo; .&foo }
camelia method
Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1
in sub foo at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix m: sub foo ($) { say "subroutine" }; class Foo { method foo { say "method" } }; with Foo.new { .foo; .&foo }
camelia method
subroutine
Zoffix with the .&foo form passing the invocant to the sub as the first arg 14:38
hoffentlichja understood 14:38
thanks
HoboWithAShotgun in method f($s where %h = $x), what does this assignment in the where clause do? 15:18
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 816583d818 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 2 files
Set off donation bar a bit form rest of content
 15:21
Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: exploits unsupported behaviour by assigning $x to %h 15:23
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 76931ce08b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 4 files
Add stub of CPAN dist page
 15:38
HoboWithAShotgun and that has which effect? 15:39
Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: assignment :) 15:41
m: my %h; my $x := {:42foo, :70bar}; sub ($s where {%h := $x}) {}(%h); say %h 15:42
camelia {bar => 70, foo => 42}
Zoffix But side effects from `where` is not a supported behaviour, so burn the code you saw that in with fire :)
Geth ecosystem: 64be703476 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
add a dummy module for testing with Perl 6 CPAN
 15:46
Zoffix raises an eyebrow 15:47
tbrowder: FWIW, your `perl` key in that META file has the wrong value. It specifies the minimum version of language to be `6` and it won't ever be that high. You can use "6.*" 15:48
m: say v6 before v6.c 15:49
camelia False
HoboWithAShotgun bit it's not :=
it's =
Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: same difference
tbrowder Zoffix: thnx, fixed. 15:52
HoboWithAShotgun and it gets called differently, sec
HoboWithAShotgun m: my %h = :foo<FOO>, :bar<BAR>; my $key = "foo"; sub callme($arg where %h = $key) { say %h; say $arg; }; callme("bar"); 15:56
camelia {bar => BAR, foo => FOO}
bar
HoboWithAShotgun i mean i know it checks wether $arg is a key in %h but i have no idea how 15:57
Zoffix It doesn't 15:58
I'd expect that to die
HoboWithAShotgun m: my %h = :foo<FOO>, :bar<BAR>; my $key = "foo"; sub callme($arg where %h = $key) { say %h; say $arg; }; callme("xxx");
camelia Constraint type check failed in binding to parameter '$arg'; expected anonymous constraint to be met but got Str ("xxx")
in sub callme at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
HoboWithAShotgun it does apparently 15:59
Zoffix That's the smartmatch with %h, `= $key` is not involved
Ahhhh
Never mind, I was wrong
HoboWithAShotgun: it smartmatches with `%h` (which checks for existance of key), and `= $key` is the default value 16:00
tony-o m: my %h = :foo<FOO>, :bar<BAR>; my $key = "foo"; sub callme($arg where %h = $key) { say %h; say $arg; }; callme;
camelia {bar => BAR, foo => FOO}
foo
HoboWithAShotgun i am hesitant to ask where that is documented ;) 16:01
Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: docs.perl6.org/type/Signature#inde...gnature%29 16:02
Geth DBIish/add_more_use_nativecall: 1a823c3300 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | 3 files
add missing "use NativeCall" to ::Native modules

not sure how it used to work without this.		 16:03
DBIish: timo++ created pull request #103:
add missing "use NativeCall" to ::Native modules
timotimo will travis build the code for the pull request?
Zoffix `where` smartmatches. That's basically all the documentation needed. I just got confused :)
Geth DBIish/add_more_use_nativecall: aa76d362a8 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | META6.json
minor version bump
Zoffix timotimo: yes, it shows status of builds on PR page: github.com/perl6/DBIish/pull/103 16:04
timotimo aha!
that wasn't there a minute ago
HoboWithAShotgun Zoffix, tx but that's just the page about type constraints 16:08
Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: what sort of docs were you looking for? 16:09
Geth DBIish: 1a823c3300 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | 3 files
add missing "use NativeCall" to ::Native modules

not sure how it used to work without this.
DBIish: aa76d362a8 | (Timo Paulssen)++ | META6.json
minor version bump
DBIish: d2d6e19b05 | (Jonathan Stowe)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 4 files
Merge pull request #103 from perl6/add_more_use_nativecall

add missing "use NativeCall" to ::Native modules
HoboWithAShotgun about this %h = $key syntax
Zoffix hm, doc search for "Smartmatch" don't show anything :(
HoboWithAShotgun in the where clause
Zoffix HoboWithAShotgun: that's not the syntax in the code we're talking about. it's sub (ARG = DEFAULT_VALUE) => sub callme($arg = $default-value). And you can type-constraint the arg: subset HKey where { %h{$_}:exists }; sub (HKey $arg = $default-value) {}; and you can shorten this and specify the `where` clause inline: sub ($arg where { %h{$_}:exists } = $default-value) {} and since smartmatch of non-Regex and 16:14
non-Map keys with a hash checks for existence of a key, you can shorten it still by writing sub ($arg where %h = $default-value) {}
But as the existence of this discussion demonstrates, writing it this way is a bad idea and causes confusion
Zoffix Especially since smartmatch with hash has more behaviours than just existence of key check 16:15
m: my %h = :foo<FOO>, :bar<BAR>; my $key = "foo"; sub callme($arg where %h = $key) { say %h; say $arg; }; callme(/f/);
camelia {bar => BAR, foo => FOO}
/f/
Zoffix m: my %h = :foo<FOO>, :bar<BAR>; my $key = "foo"; sub callme($arg where %h = $key) { say %h; say $arg; }; callme(%h); 16:15
camelia {bar => BAR, foo => FOO}
{bar => BAR, foo => FOO}
Zoffix So there's no assignment to %h and no assignment to where clause, it's assignment of default value to $arg when the arg wasn't provided 16:16
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 96444904ce | (Zoffix Znet)++ | lib/ModulesPerl6/Model/Dists.pm
Toss old "dist problems" from DB
 16:48
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 861173c26d | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 5 files
Implement extractor for CPAN dists

  - Add `files` dist property. Keep it empty for now for non-CPAN dists		 17:13
medfly Hi folks. I want to run the roast testsuite because I heard an OS I like is failing in OS-specific ways on it. when I run 'make spectest' it hangs at some test (rosettacode/sierpinski_triangle.t) but not running it manually. any idea>? 17:37
mspo what does ktruss say it's doing? 17:38
medfly hi mspo
Zoffix medfly: TTY vs non-TTY? 17:39
medfly One of the 4 processes I get from 'pgrep rakudo' is totally silent in ktrace, the others periodically look at the clock and sleep 17:41
Zoffix wonder if it's the buffering stuff recently implemented
Zoffix medfly: try perl6 -e 'say qx|perl6 rosettacode/sierpinski_triangle.t|' 17:44
Does that hang?
medfly nope 17:45
1..1
ok 1 - Sierpinski Triangle
oh, just perl6 might be the wrong one
i got it from a package manager first
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 23f81e729b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 2 files
Add files missed from last commit
 17:58
zelenkanew01 i have a problem which is about telnet 18:06
Juerd No, that's irc. 18:07
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: e164379823 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | lib/ModulesPerl6/DbBuilder/Dist/Source/CPAN.pm
Handle impolite archives
 18:08
Zoffix Well, you could use telnet to IRC :) 18:29
teatime don't forget to PONG!
ZoffixTelnet Telnet Zoffix says hi :) 18:30
teatime nice 18:30
timotimo hmpf, i need to put my readme into my module's pod so that mi6 will put it back into the readme for me 18:37
Zoffix :) 18:38
There's an open Issue on that subject: github.com/skaji/mi6/issues/23 18:39
lizmat starts working on the P6W, lemme know if you think I'm going to miss something (important :-) 18:52
Zoffix lizmat: not super important, but might be worth mentioning people should upload stuff to CPAN. The bot already reports uploads and in a few hours modules.perl6.org will show CPAN dists on it 18:53
ugexe whats the best way to pass data into an anonymous role? e.g. the anonymous version of `my role Foo { has $.foo }; say (1 but Foo(42)).foo;` 18:53
lizmat Zoffix: I think I'll mention it next week, when it's sure to have gotten some live traffic, if that's ok with you 18:58
Zoffix Sure 18:59
Actually, it's better that way. 3pm... I probably should relax for a bit instead of coding :)
jnthn lizmat: fwiw, leave the Cro SPA tutorial I wrote for next week also; I didn't get chance to deploy it to the site for real today when I was at the office, and am too tired/lazy to install the google cloud tool on my home box to do it now :) 19:00
lizmat jnthn: ok 19:01
virtualsue jnthn / lizmat I am now taking my little Go / P6 talk to the big Go meetup in London 19:26
lizmat virtualsue++ :-) 19:27
virtualsue suitably modified by taking out any bragging and teasing
with some P6
I had hoped it wouldn't be too massive (80 or so) but as it happens one of the more well-known Google dev advocates is suddenly coming so now there will be ca 150 19:30
mspo showdown!
virtualsue oh hell no :-) 19:31
Zoffix virtualsue++
virtualsue I think they will be well up for this
El_Che virtualsue: I like both, but more often than not they have very opposed design choices
virtualsue: will the talk be recorded?
virtualsue i think that's likely and I am a bit pressed for time to prepare ... we shall see 19:33
El_Che good luck!
mspo (speaking of golang) did you guys decide about the whole thread phaser thing?
teatime virtualsue: I like your PTR record. I never thought of doing that.
jnthn mspo: What is the "thread phaser thing"? :) 19:34
mspo jnthn: you know how go (and perl6) can't drop privileges on linux reliably? 19:34
jnthn: not just the traditional setuid stuff, but it also translates into namespaces and stuff 19:35
jnthn: it's primarily because there's no way to say "stay single thread until X"
virtualsue I don't really do Highlander talks. It isn't advocacy. It's just interesting. 19:37
Geth modules.perl6.org/cpan-support: 2203ec9e9b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 9 files
Implement unplugged tree file viewer for CPAN dists
 19:41
Zoffix It's taking shape: i.imgur.com/XzAcDpe.png 19:43
I think I'm calling it a day tho. Have a ton of Perl Web work to do at $work this week; rather not burn out by doing too much of week on the weekends too
\o
jnthn Zoffix++ 19:44
preaction Zoffix: that looks amazing 19:45
HoboWithAShotgun in the where clause 19:50
lizmat and another Perl 6 Weekly hits the Net: p6weekly.wordpress.com/2017/10/02/...e-granted/ 22:30
gfldex lizmat++ week++ 22:37
Zoffix lizmat++ # good weekly. 22:51
Zoffix I rushed to IRC to correct the item about chained < ops, because I made changes to ≤ not <, but then remembered that yeah, I did do stuff with the < ops too :) lizmat++ making us remember what we did in a week :) 22:53
timotimo realizes he didn't do anything show-offable 22:59
but for now i must give my wrists some rest, so they can recover soon :| 23:00
AlexDaniel maybe *ables want a bouncer? 23:04
perigrin they seem quite adept at bouncing without it 23:10
Geth whateverable: 2da9c8abf0 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | lib/Whateverable.pm6
Don't generate paths with double slashes

Tar will not normalize them. Issue #240.
This was a regression after 845db2e47fd6468a069bc9f2b54997e8ae412f48.		 23:15
whateverable: 11af308d8d | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | Sakefile
Adapt Sakefile targets

Things are much easier now that we have all bots as systemd services.
Note that this is using ｢any(…) ~ ‘str’｣ which is a fairly new Rakudo addition.
buggable New CPAN upload: JSON-Fast-0.9.5.tar.gz by TIMOTIMO www.cpan.org/authors/id/T/TI/TIMOT...9.5.tar.gz 23:56

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