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| squashable6 | ๐ zoffixznet++ opened issue โ.coll method is referenced but leads to 404โ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2435 | 00:02 | |
| ๐ zoffixznet++ labeled issue โ.coll method is referenced but leads to 404โ (docs): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2435 | |||
| ๐ zoffixznet++ labeled issue โLTA placement of collation docsโ (docs): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2434 | |||
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| Geth | doc: 07ece9ba13 | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/experimental.pod6 Fix `coll` URL Fixes github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2435 D#2435 |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/experimental | ||
| D#2435 [closed]: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2435 [docs] .coll method is referenced but leads to 404 | |||
| squashable6 | ๐ zoffixznet++ closed issue โ.coll method is referenced but leads to 404โ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2435 | ||
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| Xliff | Is there any way to use the Perl6 grammar to match perl6 code in a string? | 01:18 | |
| For example... I want to be able to add to method calls, so I'd like to invoke the parser to catch all methods. Is that possible? | |||
| timotimo | you can invoke the parser, but it'll also do stuff like execute begin blocks for you | 01:20 | |
| or the values for constants, as well as traits | |||
| even if you stop it at stage parse, it won't help against arbitrary code being run | 01:21 | ||
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| Xliff | Ah. I was just hoping it would help make parsing method definitions easier. | 01:33 | |
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| Geth | doc: 0fe41437e7 | (Richard Hainsworth)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/iterating.pod6 Update iterating.pod6 typo: 'a' before 'uniform' |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/iterating | ||
| squashable6 | ๐๐๐ First contribution by finanalyst++! โฅ | ||
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| Xliff | m: my regex aa { 'aa' }; say "aa" ~~ aa; | 03:05 | |
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| Xliff | m: my regex aa { 'aa' }; say "aa" ~~ &("aa"); | ||
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| Xliff | m: my regex aa { 'aa' }; say "aa" ~~ ::("&aa"); | ||
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| Geth | doc: 40b4ae3d3e | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 2 files [v6.d REVIEW] .iterator is given by Mu not Any Propspec: github.com/perl6/roast/commit/1e19...d1ac7cf0f8 |
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| Xliff | m: my regex aa { 'aa' }; say "aa" ~~ ::("&aa"); say $/; | 03:21 | |
| camelia | ๏ฝขaa๏ฝฃ ๏ฝขaa๏ฝฃ |
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| Xliff | m: my regex aa { 'aa' }; say "aa" ~~ aa | 03:22 | |
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| Xliff | m: my regex aa { 'aa' }; say "aa" ~~ &aa | ||
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| Xliff | m: my regex aa { 'aa' }; say "aa" ~~ aa() | 03:23 | |
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| Xliff | m: my regex aa { 'aa' }; say "aa" ~~ /<aa>/ | 03:24 | |
| camelia | ๏ฝขaa๏ฝฃ aa => ๏ฝขaa๏ฝฃ |
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| squashable6 | ๐ zoffixznet++ opened issue โMulti-dim `{...}` access not explainedโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2436 | 04:16 | |
| ๐ zoffixznet++ labeled issue โMulti-dim `{...}` access not explainedโ (new): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2436 | |||
| ๐ zoffixznet++ labeled issue โMulti-dim `{...}` access not explainedโ (easy to resolve): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2436 | |||
| ๐ zoffixznet++ labeled issue โMulti-dim `{...}` access not explainedโ (docs): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2436 | |||
| ๐ zoffixznet++ labeled issue โMulti-dim `{...}` access not explainedโ (good first issue): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2436 | |||
| ๐ zoffixznet++ edited issue โMulti-dim `{...}` access not explainedโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2436 | 04:17 | ||
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| holyghost | .tell Zoffix I've added Mathx::Stat to github.com/theholyghost2, it compiles and needs tests | 06:22 | |
| yoleaux | holyghost: I'll pass your message to Zoffix. | ||
| holyghost | .tell Zoffix as I'm busy with personal things next week, I'll manage compiles for Bayes::Learn, Game::Markov, AI::Agent next week starting from wednesday | 06:27 | |
| yoleaux | holyghost: I'll pass your message to Zoffix. | ||
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| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ wrote a comment on โMissing /language/createโฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2433#i...-435566049 | 07:05 | |
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| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ wrote a comment on โMissing /language/createโฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2433#i...-435566827 | 07:20 | |
| Geth | doc: b6f61012be | (JJ Merelo)++ | 2 files create-cli added back You have to add them by hand to the control file, or they will disappear. Also some reformatting. Refs #2433 but does not close until all the missing files are discovered. |
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| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ opened issue โCheck that all files in โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2437 | 07:35 | |
| ๐ JJ++ labeled issue โCheck that all files in โฆโ (site): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2437 | |||
| Geth | doc: JJ self-assigned Check that all files in /language appear in the control file github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2437 007bb6af36 | (JJ Merelo)++ | util/manage-page-order.p6 |
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| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ closed issue โCheck that all files in โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2437 | ||
| Geth | doc: JJ self-assigned Missing /language/create-cli and possibly other pages from live site github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2433 8a61a9ca23 | (JJ Merelo)++ | 2 files |
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| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ closed issue โMissing /language/createโฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2433 | ||
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| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ wrote a comment on โLTA placement of collation docsโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2434#i...-435570157 | 08:25 | |
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| Geth | doc: cc34198964 | (JJ Merelo)++ | 2 files Adds example for multi-dim {} slicing closes #2436 |
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| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ closed issue โMulti-dim `{...}` access not explainedโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2436 | ||
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| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ labeled issue โThere are two kinds of aโฆโ (docs): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2409 | 08:56 | |
| ๐ JJ++ labeled issue โThere are two kinds of aโฆโ (update): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2409 | |||
| Geth | doc: e6f2ee66d3 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/regexes.pod6 Rephrases sentence, closes #2409 |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes | ||
| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ closed issue โThere are two kinds of aโฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2409 | ||
| Geth | doc: 3302ebe6d0 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/regexes.pod6 In fact, they are matching adverbs. Reindexed. Closes #2408 |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes | ||
| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ closed issue โRegex or matching adverbs?โ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2408 | ||
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| Geth | doc: f13ba5d8a3 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Scalar.pod6 Adds sub as suggested to close #2393 |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Scalar | ||
| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ closed issue โcas docs don't mention iโฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2393 | ||
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| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ opened issue โRearrange the pragmas pageโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2438 | 10:00 | |
| ๐ JJ++ labeled issue โRearrange the pragmas pageโ (docs): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2438 | |||
| ๐ JJ++ labeled issue โRearrange the pragmas pageโ (update): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2438 | |||
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| Xliff | Can someone help me get debugging set up with Commma? | 10:04 | |
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| Xliff | m: my $a = "aa"; $a ~~ s!a!a{'{'}!; say $a | 10:19 | |
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| Geth | ecosystem: 7f952cb9e9 | (Ahmad M. Zawawi)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list ๐ฅ Move MagickWand to CPAN |
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| doc: chsanch++ created pull request #2439: Fix #2438. Change items to level-2 headers in pragmas page |
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| squashable6 | ๐ chsanch++ opened pull request โFix #2438. Change items โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/pull/2439 | ||
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| Xliff | lizmat? | 12:15 | |
| .tell lizmat Do you know if Method::Also will ever be able to handle multi's? | 12:16 | ||
| yoleaux | Xliff: I'll pass your message to lizmat. | ||
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| squashable6 | ๐ zoffixznet++ wrote a comment on โFix #2438. Change items โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/pull/2439#iss...-435586837 | 13:10 | |
| ๐ zoffixznet++ wrote a comment on โLTA placement of collation docsโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2434#i...-435587040 | 13:14 | ||
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| bichu | i am that common on this chat. I was using Debian and noticed that we can install perl6 using apt-get | 13:28 | |
| not that* | |||
| perl6-zef is being reviewed still for Debian 9 Stretch | |||
| i just installed it, so thought I should let the communithy know, as the online docs didnt have something relating to that. | 13:29 | ||
| so on Debian 9, we are not forced to build. | |||
| bye for now | 13:30 | ||
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| Geth | doc: 12181fc94c | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Encoding/Registry.pod6 Concisify Encoding::Registry subtitle |
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| squashable6 | ๐ zoffixznet++ wrote a comment on โEncoding::Encoder / Encoโฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2415#i...-435595054 | 15:09 | |
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| squashable6 | ๐ chsanch++ synchronize pull request โFix #2438. Change items โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/pull/2439 | 16:03 | |
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| uzl | Hello #perl6! | 16:26 | |
| Yesterday I uploaded a module to/through PAUSE to CPAN but it hasn't showed up to neither metacpan nor P6 module directory. | 16:27 | ||
| Skarsnik | Hello, what is the name of the module? | 16:28 | |
| uzl | This is it: cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/U/UZ/...ISF/Perl6/ | ||
| Skarsnik: ENIGMA::Machine | |||
| Skarsnik | hm yes it does not show on modules.perl6.org | 16:29 | |
| sorry I am not familiar with cpan module sadly | |||
| MasterDuke | uzl: are you sure your META6.json is correct? i don't know cpan either, but i believe some error in the META6.json is a common cause of modules not showing up | 16:30 | |
| uzl | MasterDuke: gitlab.com/uzluisf/ENIGMA-Machine/...META6.json <- This is the module's META6.json | 16:32 | |
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| Skarsnik | I think it's Test::Meta to test metafile? | 16:33 | |
| MasterDuke | uzl: nothing jumps out at me, but yeah, have you run it through Test::Meta? | 16:34 | |
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| uzl | MasterDuke: so `zef install Test::Meta` and feed the META6.json to it? | 16:35 | |
| MasterDuke | uzl: i'd guess so, but i haven't used it myself | 16:38 | |
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| uzl | Thanks. I'll see what I can do. | 16:40 | |
| MasterDuke: Everything seems to be okay with META6.json -> i.imgur.com/s1GRiR2.png | 16:44 | ||
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| Zoffix | uzl: did you get any email from PAUSE? Does it say all was OK? There should be a third .meta file for the dist in cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/U/UZ/...ISF/Perl6/ (like in cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/Z/ZO/ZOFFIX/Perl6/ ) | 16:48 | |
| uzl | Zoffix: Hold on a sec, let me check my email. | 16:49 | |
| Zoffix | uzl: and how did you make that .tar? By hand or with App::Mi6 or something? | ||
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| Zoffix | Though this person got .meta files but the modules are also not on modules.perl6.org cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/D/DO/DOOM/Perl6/ | 16:52 | |
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| Zoffix | ah, k, those are just invalid META.json files | 16:53 | |
| (well, "just"... we'll need to teach PAUSE to reject such uploads) | |||
| uzl | Zoffix: What I received regarding the upload -> i.imgur.com/4p1KTAp.png | 16:54 | |
| Zoffix | uzl: were you using App::Mi6 to make the tarball? | 16:55 | |
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| uzl | Zoffix: just the tar command I posted earlier. | 16:57 | |
| Zoffix | try reuploading with the Mi6 maybe | 16:59 | |
| eco: App::Mi6 | |||
| buggable | Zoffix, App::Mi6 'minimal authoring tool for Perl6': modules.perl6.org/dist/App::Mi6:cpan:SKAJI | ||
| Zoffix | PSA: check the tarball before putting it on CPAN. When I tried with my modules long ago, it nuked my README content | ||
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| uzl | Alright, I'll try to do that! | 17:02 | |
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| squashable6 | AlexDaniel, ๐๐ SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in โ18 hours. See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day | ||
| AlexDaniel, Log and stats: gist.github.com/0d386e671b5786cb36...b1cd002562 | |||
| AlexDaniel | had a thing to do today, unfortunately. Hopefully will have some time tonight for the squashathon | 17:33 | |
| squashable6 | ๐ zoffixznet++ opened issue โLock::Async vs. Lockโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2440 | 17:35 | |
| Geth | doc: a3c764bf49 | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/experimental.pod6 Bravery is optional |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/experimental | ||
| squashable6 | ๐ zoffixznet++ labeled issue โLock::Async vs. Lockโ (docs): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2440 | 17:40 | |
| Geth | mu: f4f135337c | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | misc/perl6advent-2018/schedule Add "Those lazy Perl 6 developers!" article to schedule |
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| squashable6 | jmerelo, ๐๐ SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in โ18 hours. See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day | ||
| jmerelo, Log and stats: gist.github.com/4a125cb35a67bc6665...6686a5bd06 | |||
| ๐ JJ++ labeled issue โLock::Async vs. Lockโ (update): github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2440 | 17:58 | ||
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| ๐ JJ++ submitted a review on pull request โFix #2438. Change items โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/pull/2439#pul...-171336177 | |||
| ๐ JJ++ wrote a comment on a review for โFix #2438. Change items โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/pull/2439#dis...r230562898 | |||
| ๐ JJ++ submitted a review on pull request โFix #2438. Change items โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/pull/2439#pul...-171336186 | 18:04 | ||
| ๐ rorphanos++ opened issue โBroken link on page httpโฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2441 | 18:17 | ||
| ๐๐๐ First contribution by rorphanos++! โฅ | |||
| ๐ zoffixznet++ wrote a comment on a review for โFix #2438. Change items โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/pull/2439#dis...r230563351 | 18:18 | ||
| ๐ zoffixznet++ submitted a review on pull request โFix #2438. Change items โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/pull/2439#pul...-171336623 | |||
| ๐ JJ++ wrote a comment on โBroken link on page httpโฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2441#i...-435610130 | 18:25 | ||
| TimToady | ~/me agrees that |Z is problematically ambiguous with lots of other infixes, and notes that he was reserving F in his head for a generalized flattening metaop, in the absence of any better suggestion | ||
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| jmerelo | TimToady: why not _? As in, well, flattening to the ground. | ||
| Geth | doc: 58811aced3 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/regexes.pod6 Eliminates extra e and reflows, closes #2441 |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes | ||
| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ closed issue โBroken link on page httpโฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2441 | ||
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| ๐ JJ++ submitted a review on pull request โFix #2438. Change items โฆโ: github.com/perl6/doc/pull/2439#pul...-171336990 | |||
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| TimToady | yes, _ is another possibility that I've considered, and could yet settle on, if we decide that flat() is inadequate | 18:34 | |
| but 6d is a good time to consider it | 18:35 | ||
| Geth | doc: 36c1c7c3a2 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Num.pod6 Improves documentation for Infinity Adding examples which represent different uses as requested. Closes #2341 |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Num | ||
| squashable6 | ๐ JJ++ closed issue โRFE: wording change to Inf in the documentationโ: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2341 | ||
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| poohman | m: say "Hello" | 18:39 | |
| camelia | Hello | ||
| poohman | m: enum Spendtype < Food Conv Misc> | 18:40 | |
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| poohman | If ($*IN.get.Str ~~ Spendtype) { .. } | 18:41 | |
| does that make sense?? | 18:42 | ||
| jmerelo | poohman: which one? | ||
| enums are not strings | |||
| You might want to use a Set | |||
| poohman | Can I check the std input against the enum Spendtype like I have done above?? | ||
| jmerelo | poohman: not really. Enums are different types. But, as said above, you might want to simply use a set and the "belongsto" operator. | 18:43 | |
| poohman | if I create a variable of type Spendtype - what can I assign to it?? | 18:45 | |
| can I directly say? | |||
| my Spendtype $a = Food;? | 18:46 | ||
| moritz | just try it? | ||
| poohman | sorry | ||
| will do that first | |||
| moritz | m: enum Spendtype < Food Conv Misc>; my Stendtype $a = Food; say $a | ||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Type 'Stendtype' is not declared. Did you mean any of these? Spendtype SeekType at <tmp>:1 ------> 3pendtype < Food Conv Misc>; my Stendtype7โ5 $a = Food; say $a Malformed my at <tmp>:1 ------> 3enuโฆ |
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| moritz | m: enum Spendtype < Food Conv Misc>; my Spendtype $a = Food; say $a | ||
| camelia | Food | ||
| poohman | m: enum Spendtype < Food Conv Misc>; my Spendtype $a = Food; say $a.^name | 18:47 | |
| camelia | Spendtype | ||
| tobs | m: enum SpendType <Food Conv Misc>; my $input = "Food"; say SpendType::{$input}; say SpendType::{"Non$input"} | 18:48 | |
| camelia | Food (Any) |
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| tobs | ^ That's what I use when I get input that directly maps to an Enum | ||
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| poohman | ok so since it is not stored as Strings - to check if my input matches I will have to make a set with the same and individually compare and assign to the variable | 18:51 | |
| no way to coerce the input directly to the enum members | |||
| ? | |||
| geekosaur | that's what tobs showed you | 18:52 | |
| but no, an enum is not made of strings | |||
| m: enum Spendtype < Food Conv Misc>; say Food.^mro | 18:53 | ||
| camelia | ((Spendtype) (Int) (Cool) (Any) (Mu)) | ||
| geekosaur | (there's a stash with string to value mappings, which is what tobs used) | 18:54 | |
| poohman | cool | ||
| timotimo | you can have a stringy enum | 18:55 | |
| can't you? | |||
| m: enum Spendtype is Str < Food Conv Misc >; say Food.^mro | |||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Base type has already been set for Spendtype at <tmp>:1 |
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| geekosaur | I tjhink that's an open bug? | ||
| timotimo | m: enum Str Spendtype < Food Conv Misc >; say Food.^mro | ||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> An enum must supply an expression using <>, ยซยป, or () at <tmp>:1 ------> 3enum Str7โ5 Spendtype < Food Conv Misc >; say Food. |
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| timotimo | m: Str enum Spendtype < Food Conv Misc >; say Food.^mro | ||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Two terms in a row at <tmp>:1 ------> 3Str7โ5 enum Spendtype < Food Conv Misc >; say expecting any of: infix infix stopper statement end statemenโฆ |
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| timotimo | m: my Str enum Spendtype < Food Conv Misc >; say Food.^mro | ||
| camelia | ===SORRY!=== Incompatible MROs in P6opaque rebless for types Int and Spendtype |
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| timotimo | m: enum Spendtype of Str < Food Conv Misc >; say Food.^mro | 18:56 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> No such method 'set_of' for invocant of type 'Perl6::Metamodel::EnumHOW'. Did you mean 'set_rw'? at <tmp>:1 |
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| geekosaur | you're supposed to but it doesn't currently work | ||
| timotimo | well, that's not one of those | ||
| poohman | m: enum Spendtype <"Food" "Conv" "Misc"> | ||
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| timotimo | m: enum SpendType Food => "food", Conv => "conv", Misc => "misc"; say Misc.^mro; say Misc.Str | 18:57 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> An enum must supply an expression using <>, ยซยป, or () at <tmp>:1 ------> 3enum SpendType7โ5 Food => "food", Conv => "conv", Misc => |
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| timotimo | m: enum SpendType (Food => "food", Conv => "conv", Misc => "misc"); say Misc.^mro; say Misc.Str | ||
| camelia | ((SpendType) (Str) (Cool) (Any) (Mu)) misc |
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| timotimo | m: enum SpendType ("Food", "Conv", "Misc"); say Misc.^mro; say Misc.Str | ||
| camelia | ((SpendType) (Int) (Cool) (Any) (Mu)) Misc |
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| timotimo | ok, so only with pairs, it seems like | ||
| poohman | m: enum SpendType ("Food", "Conv", "Misc"); say Misc.^mro; say Misc.Str.^mro | 18:58 | |
| camelia | ((SpendType) (Int) (Cool) (Any) (Mu)) ((Str) (Cool) (Any) (Mu)) |
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| geekosaur | tbh if I wanted to use strings there I'd probably use a Set instead | 18:59 | |
| timotimo | it won't give you a symbol for them then, though, no? | ||
| geekosaur | the question is whether I'd care in that case. usually, I wouldn't | 19:00 | |
| jmerelo | Hey y'all, there's a Squashathon going on: github.com/perl6/ecosystem/wiki/SQUASHathon May I interest you in solving 1 or 10 documentation issues? github.com/perl6/doc/issues | 19:01 | |
| Don't let me win the plush Camelia (again)! | |||
| poohman | m: enum SpendType ("Food", "Conv", "Misc"); say Misc.^mro; say "Misc".^mro | ||
| camelia | ((SpendType) (Int) (Cool) (Any) (Mu)) ((Str) (Cool) (Any) (Mu)) |
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| timotimo | i'm sitting right next to a plush camelia right now :) | ||
| poohman: "Misc" there isn't related to the enum any more | |||
| jmerelo | timotimo: do it for the lols. | 19:02 | |
| poohman | just playing around - got it the first time around | ||
| timotimo | right, no problem :) | ||
| poohman | jmerelo: Can I be of some help? - be warned - am a newbie | 19:03 | |
| but you would have guessed that by now | |||
| geekosaur | for doc issues tht can be an advantage: you'd be more likely to spot things that make more sense to developers than users, when the users are the ones who most need the docs | 19:04 | |
| and newcomers | |||
| Geth | doc: 916307b96e | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/glossary.pod6 It's Raku colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_lo...11-03#l276 |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/glossary | ||
| Geth | doc: 52f8241460 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/glossary.pod6 s/Perl 6/Perlย 6/ |
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| jmerelo | poohman: by all means. Just checking out the documents, seeing if they work for you, raising issues if they don't, will help | ||
| poohman: you can check out the issues, see if you can help with any of them. | 19:09 | ||
| poohman | jmerelo: will do - had a look already - ill take some time and see if there is something I can do | 19:13 | |
| jmerelo | poohman++ | ||
| poohman | thanks everybody for the help - later | 19:14 | |
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| timotimo | \o/ | 19:14 | |
| jmerelo | so, timotimo, where were we? Ah, yes, you were going to help with a doc issue :-) | 19:15 | |
| timotimo | um ... well volunteered:? | ||
| jmerelo | timotimo: shanghaied, more like :-) | 19:16 | |
| timotimo: maybe you can help with this one? github.com/perl6/doc/issues/711 | |||
| timotimo: or this one? github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2009 | 19:17 | ||
| Geth | ยฆ doc: JJ self-unassigned Lack of Regex Assertions Documentation github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2009 | ||
| mu: 13b49bcebe | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | misc/perl6advent-2018/schedule Swap to preferred lang name |
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| lucasb | yay, can we change the mascot now? :D | 19:33 | |
| yoleaux | 15 Oct 2018 15:14Z <Zoffix> lucasb: R#2131 is blocked by R#1289, so it's deferred until 6.e or later. And R#1842 is a Rakudo issue, not a language issue (neither of the classes involved are part of the spec). | ||
| synopsebot | R#2131 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2131 [@LARRY][consistency] Behavior of match occurrence adverbs: :nth(*) and :nth(*-1) | ||
| yoleaux | 15 Oct 2018 15:17Z <Zoffix> lucasb: to clarify, R#2131 is blocked by R#1289, because current behaviour is part of 6.c spec ( github.com/perl6/roast/blob/6.c-er...#L218-L220 ) and any modificationsโif agreed onโwould have to be behind a language version pragma | ||
| synopsebot | R#1289 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/1289 [6.e] Implement a Way to Know Caller's Language | ||
| R#1842 [closed]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/1842 Revert "JSONException -> Rakudo::Internals::JSONException" | |||
| lizmat | and so another round begins :-( | 19:34 | |
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| Zoffix | lucasb: nope | 19:34 | |
| lucasb | hehe, j/k, I'm pretty happy with camelia | 19:35 | |
| Zoffix | lizmat: round of branding? :) | ||
| Nah, I don't think logo/mascot has any chance or need to change :) | |||
| lizmat | round of confusion :-( | ||
| lucasb | lizmat, agreed | ||
| Zoffix | I'll take it. | 19:36 | |
| lucasb | "Is it Rakudo or Raku?" | ||
| jmerelo | Plus, what would be do with all the plush Camelias? | ||
| lucasb | "Oh, they are not the same thing?" | ||
| timotimo | "do" is the new word for "compiler" | ||
| Zoffix | Yeah | ||
| Makes a lot of sense. What's Rakudo? Well, "-do" suffix is like a "compiler" and it's a compiler for Raku language :) | 19:37 | ||
| lizmat | .oO( it's the thing that does Raku ) |
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| Zoffix | I think there's an Issue in user exp. repo saying user went to install "Perl 6" but is being told to download "Rakudo".. Raku resolves that :) | ||
| lizmat | at the moment it feels to me as the start of my withdrawal | ||
| Zoffix | Withdrawal? | 19:39 | |
| timotimo | and when the gnu people build a compiler into the gcc, it'll be gRakuc maybe | ||
| Zoffix | Withdrawal from what? | ||
| lizmat | from this | 19:40 | |
| Zoffix | Not a bad idea :) | ||
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| El_Che | is it common? | ||
| lizmat | twitter.com/search?f=tweets&ve...amp;q=raku | ||
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| timotimo | hum, it also finds every tweet from all people named *raku* | 19:54 | |
| lizmat | yup | ||
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| Is there something special about method style subroutine calling? Seems like it insists that any return value that LOOKS like a negative number, by god, IS, regardless of any Str coercion. | 21:39 | ||
| b2gills | www.google.com/search?q=Raku+glaze&tbm=isch | 21:41 | |
| method calls are tighter than prefix - | 21:43 | ||
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| twitter.com/dccreationsaz/status/1...9004124160 #raku pottery | 21:47 | ||
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| Ulti | is there a nice way to declare operating system dependence in modules? | 22:06 | |
| is it part of the META6 spec? | |||
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| ugexe | is the os an actually dependency? or is something that only runs on that os? | 22:08 | |
| Ulti | both? | ||
| ugexe | i.e. what do you *actually* need access to | ||
| Ulti | so for example I wanted to try out Red and it depends on DB::Pg that module depends on epoll which is a profoundly Linux specific thing | ||
| ugexe | so you would declare a native dependency on epoll | 22:09 | |
| Ulti | and stuff like libuuid assumed to be on the system is a very Linux thing too | ||
| ugexe | again, a dependency on libuuid | ||
| Ulti | ugexe: sure but its also the operating system not everyone down the chain will know epoll implies Linux only | ||
| so if you have a choice of two DB modules like say DB::Pg and DBIish which one are you going to use if you want to have maximum user share? | 22:10 | ||
| ugexe | so add os dependency management to allow finding maximum use share asier? | 22:11 | |
| s/use/user/ | |||
| Ulti | no so that when I try and install it just says its never going to happen | ||
| not just deps need to be found | |||
| Skarsnik | damn. I had the syntax somwewhere to do that | ||
| ugexe | it will do that if epoll cannot be found | ||
| Ulti | libuuid I installed then I just got to ohhhh its never going to work so it was 30 minutes of my life wasted | 22:12 | |
| geekosaur | it's nto going to know the difference between nto installed and not installable | ||
| ugexe | why wont it work? | ||
| because the tests assume case sensitivity? | |||
| Ulti | ugexe: yes but as a user I want to know it doesnt matter that it cant be found, I want to know it will *never* be found on your system | ||
| ugexe: epoll is a Linux system for doing polling BSD/macOS have their own so does Windows | 22:13 | ||
| libuv abstracts them | |||
| ugexe | you said libuuid doesn't work | ||
| geekosaur | libuuid /per se/ is part of linux ext2 utils | ||
| Ulti | no I said epoll and I said I got more disgruntled when I got past one dependency I need to find, to discover I was never going to install anyway because a later dep was platform level incompatible | ||
| libuuid its more its always hanging around Linux | 22:14 | ||
| ugexe | "libuuid I installed then I just got to ohhhh its never going to work" | ||
| Ulti | macOS you just have to go fish which is a little annoying but totally fine | ||
| ugexe | so you didnt meant libuuid, just transitive dependency somewhere before? | ||
| Ulti | ugexe: oh its never going to work the next dep is epoll failing | ||
| geekosaur | they said first they fought with libuuid neding to eb installed, then they fought with epoll | 22:15 | |
| Ulti | if you could check the chain of deps to see one of them isnt for my operating system I wouldnt have even had to go looking at libuuid | ||
| straight away you'd see epoll further back | |||
| ugexe | fwiw if you are installing DB::Pg you don't need epoll if you don't use the reactive stuff | ||
| Ulti | and just tell me this module is uninstallable | ||
| ugexe | i commented that stuff out | ||
| Ulti | yeah its not any slight on DB::Pg thats just where I hit this | 22:16 | |
| but there have been a couple others | |||
| at the moment the Perl 6 ecosystem is actually quite hostile if you're on Mac | |||
| and given its a unix thats kind of super bad news for Windows users | |||
| Skarsnik | only if your module use libraries | 22:17 | |
| ugexe | so you can declare stuff like github.com/niner/Inline-Python/blo...on#L13-L20 | ||
| Ulti | Skarsnik: yeah sure | ||
| ugexe | so atm you could declare a win32 depenency on say Windows::Does::Not::Work or some such | ||
| Ulti | yeah like some Win32 native GUI module is another good example | 22:18 | |
| Skarsnik | Ui is perl6 is dead anyways, not until we have Qt/Gtk3 binding | 22:19 | |
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| Ulti | modules.perl6.org/dist/Libui:cpan:GARLANDG there's this | 22:20 | |
| which is kind of neat | |||
| ugexe | "name" : { "by-distro.name" : { "debian" : "epoll", "macosx" : "Doesnt::Work::On::OSX", "win32" : "Doesnt::Work::On::Windows" "" : "Only::Works::On::Linux" } } | 22:21 | |
| Ulti | that has some binaries it pulls down iirc so even more in need of being able to give that level of info | ||
| ugexe | which at least kinda does that, until some jerk uploads modules matching those names | ||
| Ulti | :D | 22:22 | |
| yeah and I guess the modules just explode with an exception on use | |||
| I guess the issue is people might go hog wild and start specifying OS when its not really necessary | 22:23 | ||
| then you'll have the opposite problem to now | |||
| every module is some tiny island | |||
| ugexe | not just OS, but like above with distro, or however specific | ||
| Ulti | yeah :( | ||
| might be more you want hinting rather than control over deps | 22:24 | ||
| like tested on X | |||
| Skarsnik | Os X is annoying for deps anyways | ||
| Ulti | true enough | ||
| Skarsnik | depends too much how a lib get installed | ||
| Ulti | at least for GNU deps | ||
| a big chunk is probably tests specifically need this maybe | 22:27 | ||
| if you made something cross platform with tests for the native stuff for each is there a nice way to avoid that in tests? I've never actually looked into it | 22:28 | ||
| I guess you can just do an if on it and just choose tests | 22:29 | ||
| Skarsnik | you can eval a test file according to the Os value | ||
| DBIish do stuff like this | |||
| Ulti | also I kind of want all the event loop DB::Pg niceness :P | 22:30 | |
| I guess I can just Docker myself to victory | 22:31 | ||
| buggable | New CPAN upload: App-Mi6-0.2.3.tar.gz by SKAJI modules.perl6.org/dist/App::Mi6:cpan:SKAJI | ||
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| Xliff | lizmat: Still there? | 22:36 | |
| lizmat | Xliff: sorta | ||
| Xliff | :) | ||
| I am using Method::Also, now. Thanks so much. Makes aliasing easier. | |||
| I've noticed that it doesn't work for multi methods. Is this because the strategy you are using for aliasing doesn't support such? | 22:37 | ||
| lizmat | could you gist me an example ? | ||
| Xliff | Er... sure. | 22:38 | |
| Take me a minute. | |||
| Ulti | hmm thinking more about it, why isnt there a trans operating system meta package manager? that unifies the various tools and namespaces | 22:43 | |
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| Link: doc.perl6.org/language/subscripts | |||
| Link: doc.perl6.org/language/experimental | |||
| Ulti | so you declare you want libuuid or something and then it just translates that to: port install libuuid or brew install ossp-uuid depending on which packagemanger you use on MacOS or yum/apt-get install libuuid etc. | ||
| geekosaur | because it's nearly impossible to write and even more impossible to maintain? | ||
| Ulti | windows there is choco too | ||
| Skarsnik | zef could do it | ||
| the best thing is to suggest | 22:45 | ||
| not do it | |||
| Ulti | geekosaur: sure but probably not a great deal more impossible than the volunteer contribution of something like homebrew macports | ||
| like most of the time it could just try the plain name and see if it installs | |||
| Xliff | lizmat: gist.github.com/Xliff/34b9d2e3e27c...6791075634 | ||
| Skarsnik | like "type apt-get install libpiko before installing this module' | ||
| Ulti | Skarsnik: you'd still want the db of mappings of package names | 22:46 | |
| for that to be a nice experience | |||
| lizmat | Xliff: so you want *all* candidates of .m to be also handled by .M ? | ||
| Xliff | lizmat: Yeah | ||
| If declared. | |||
| lizmat | add a proto: | ||
| proto method m(|) is also<M> {*} | 22:47 | ||
| and don't put it on the candidates | |||
| Xliff | AH! OK! | ||
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| Ulti | news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10395535 in case anyone is interested this is almost the only place I've seen mention of an idea for this, and the suggestion of "conda" being this tool isnt too far off, apart from its not meta and playing nice with the host OS | 22:51 | |
| Xliff | lizmat: Gist updated. Thanks! | 22:53 | |
| (and yes, I called you "fab") | |||
| lizmat | :-) | 22:54 | |
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| synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/modules | ||
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