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samcv woo. my perl 6 grant proposal has been published news.perlfoundation.org/2017/04/gra...posal.html :-) 01:24
AlexDaniel samcv: blah xD 01:32
samcv blah! 01:34
[Coke] blah?
AlexDaniel [Coke]: blah. github.com/perl6/nqp/commit/097acb...t-21613087
[Coke] ahh 01:37
[Coke] thought you were blah'ing the GCP 01:37
AlexDaniel the proposal is great. I blah-ed a comment already :) 01:39
bolangi join #perl 02:07
perigrin I already have? 02:08
u-ou hello 04:40
samcv working on getting MoarVM coverage from roast now 05:48
:-) yay
u-ou :> 05:49
[ptc] samcv++ ! 06:03
samcv here's by file cry.nu/coverage/roast.html
about to generate line by line coverage in a bit 06:04
samcv hopefully can get both of them automated since i have nqp testset coverage script to do it all for me 06:04
samcv line by line here cry.nu/coverage/roast/ 06:09
samcv this is really cool. heh. been browsing some of the code i've worked on before, and cool to see either where we don't test for or maybe conditions which end up not being reached in practice either or i guess 06:31
wow even shows #define that are never actually used in code that gets hit. that's pretty amazing 06:33
pmurias samcv: it might make sense to also add the coverage from running the nqp test suite 07:37
lizmat clickbaits: p6weekly.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/...-advances/ 07:43
samcv oh pmurias that's here cry.nu/coverage/ 07:45
that's what i did the last few days, got that all automated. still have to automate the roast testing though and generation, but that shouldn't be too hard since i've already done it for the nqp test suite 07:46
daxim samcv, I'm doing customised collation with perl5: <paste.debian.net/925841/> you can translate it into a test case for your grant 08:05
samcv daxim, what is your planned supporting of codepoint that have multiple arrays? 08:07
err multiple collation arrays
and series of codeponits that have one or more arrays that are distinct from when the codepoints appear individually or next to other characters? 08:08
daxim it appears I don't have those
samcv kk
my moarvm collation does not have those yet eater
eather
samcv you can read about the collation functions of perl 6 here docs.perl6.org/language/experimental#Collation 08:09
currently rethinking the collation levels interface, because i want you to be able to reverse things
daxim nice, the foundation is laid
samcv so capital letters before lowercase would be the most common example i can think of
yep :)
eater samcv: ? 08:13
daxim you've been typoed
samcv what? 08:21
m: <a A b B>.collate.say 08:22
camelia Use of the 'coll' operator is experimental; please 'use experimental :collation'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
samcv m: use experimental :collation; <a A b B>.collate.say
camelia (a A b B)
samcv atm can only turn on or off the collation levels. so will hopefully be do that as part of the grant too
hi eater
eater samcv: y u mention me 08:26
samcv you said my name
moritz now you can start talking :-) 08:27
yoleaux 3 Apr 2017 23:46Z <AlexDaniel> moritz: irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2017-04-03#i_14371056
samcv oh i see the typo now :) it highlighted you 08:29
samcv daxim, i added a COLLATION_QC property for codepoints that are starters or have multiple collation element arrays so i could run it against the unicode collation test txt files 08:43
have you done anything similar to check, not sure how your implementation is, that could be a pain. though you could always use perl 6 to process the collation list and then feed in to perl 5 and see how your collation algorithm is doing 08:44
El_Che samcv: good luck with the grant 08:45
samcv thanks El_Che :)
daxim, this the file i tested our collation with github.com/samcv/UCD/blob/master/C...Test.t#L42 08:46
daxim in my code, I'm just adding three new letters, and then the collation module knows how to treat them for the ->index method. what you linked to looks like a different purpose or goal 08:49
samcv that code just tests perl 6 code against the unicode collation test files in CollationTests from the zip here ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/UCA/latest 08:50
if you want me to write you a script that just filters out all the 'tricky' lines in the file i will do so
samcv would make it easy for you to test your collation on the unicode tests without getting failures from all these weird things 08:51
like 'st' sorting with 'st'
daxim no, I showed you the perl5 code because I hoped with the result of your work I can do the same in perl6
samcv oh sorry i thought you were the one who made the Unicode sort module in perl 5 08:52
maybe i misunderstood.
daxim that's sadahiro, I merely use his module 08:53
samcv heh ok :) 08:55
Skarsnik Hello 13:01
Skarsnik I am having a look at rt.perl.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=131003 I tried with rakudo 2016.11 (32 bits) and I don't have the issue. I tried with the latest but the exemel module now produce a signature error. "Calling from-xml-stream(IO::Handle) will never work with declared signature (IO $input) 13:03
" is that a bug or just something new in rakudo? x)
raschipi Skarsnik: There is changes related to that underway, have a look: rakudo.org/2017/04/02/upgrade-infor...rant-work/ 13:10
rakudo.org/2017/04/03/part-2-upgrad...rant-work/
dudz hi aussie homaphrodites 13:12
oh, wrong chan 13:13
Skarsnik raschipi, Thanks :)
raschipi np
Skarsnik hm 13:14
Skarsnik damn, the doc is not up to date 13:16
raschipi Ther public docs don't really follow HEAD. 13:18
Zoffix Skarsnik: change `IO` to `IO::Handle` in signature. Using `IO` was an error that got caught by new improvements. 13:26
Skarsnik Hello Zoffix :) IO::Path is an IO::Handle too? 13:26
the XML module use IO to handle these 2 types 13:27
Zoffix :S
Skarsnik: they're vastly different types :/
And no, it isn't an IO::handle
buggable: eco XML 13:28
buggable Zoffix, Found 12 results: XML, XML::Query, Flower, XML::Writer, XML::Canonical. See modules.perl6.org/#q=XML
Zoffix Skarsnik: XML module, as in XML.pm6?
Skarsnik github.com/supernovus/exemel/blob/...ML.pm6#L35
nvm IO::handle probably work as open method is used on the IO::Path 13:29
Zoffix Skarsnik: yes, IO::Path.open returns an IO::Handle.
Skarsnik: and this is an error, as it [used to] accept IO::Path and IO::Socket* types, none of which have a .slurp-rest method: github.com/supernovus/exemel/blob/...ML.pm6#L12 13:30
Sent a PR: github.com/supernovus/exemel/pull/43 13:32
Skarsnik I was going to do it x)
Zoffix Too slow :P 13:33
Skarsnik yeah, I was looking if I already still have a fork on it x) 13:34
Skarsnik it's me or the language did not grow much on popularity/use? I did not get some tickets on my modules. I was expecting to get some on like Discord/Gumbo x) 13:35
Zoffix Skarsnik: for which period?
Skarsnik a year?
I haven't much contributed since a while. 13:36
Zoffix Skarsnik: language definitely grew. New faces on IRC. 4 or 5 new books being published (some finished!). People outside the community no longer go "lulzwat Perl is dead" and mostly know Perl 6 is a new language. However, I did notice ecosystem growth slowed down quite a bit, which I suspect has a lot to do with Inline::Perl5 and Inline::Python being improved greatly. There's little reason for people to write 13:38
new modules, when they can just use Perl 5's or Python's well-tested gems
And I remembered what the web stats URL was, I'd even say by how much usage grew :)
*and if I rememberd
Skarsnik Oh yeah, this page 13:39
Zoffix ah
Zoffix huggable: stats 13:39
huggable Zoffix, www.p6c.org/stats/doc.perl6.org
Skarsnik I was mostly hoping to get tickets on GPTrixie mostly, since writing binding in perl6 is rather quick 13:40
But it's good to see the language is alive :) 13:41
Zoffix Skarsnik: and another metric: we got 4 new core developers :)
Skarsnik that really good ^^ even if a growing ecosystem is healty 13:42
Zoffix Or 5 even, if you want to count me (joined around last July)
Zoffix m: say "Based on docs.perl6.org stats, we're now {(36995/22481).round: .1}x larger" 13:46
camelia Based on docs.perl6.org stats, we're now 1.6x larger
Zoffix Pretty damn good. Nice, non-hypey growth
Skarsnik and now, I must get back to annoying SNES stuff :( 13:48
Maybe I should look at how to fix RT127345 one day 13:51
seems interesting
dogbert17 skarsnik: I believe that AlexDaniel was trying Gumbo and stumbled on a problem 14:02
Skarsnik Yes, I saw the issue and the RT. I was not able to reproduce it on my 32 bit VM 14:03
dogbert17 more specifically RT #131003
Skarsnik: I was and I'm on 32 bit as well. Strange 14:04
dogbert17 but when trying again the spectre of Zoffix appears :) 14:05
dogbert17 'Calling from-xml-stream(IO::Handle) will never work with declared signature (IO $input)' 14:06
I remember that if I ran the program with perl6-valgrind-m I got at least one invalid read
raschipi Zoffix has a bot that bridges this channel and his twitter, so he pops in when he wants to help. 14:09
Skarsnik lol 14:10
I could try on my 64 bits VPS 14:11
Zoffix raschipi: no, the bot only bridges messages that include my name. And I backlog the channel only if I get bored. 14:15
Skarsnik Maybe it's a bug in gumbo parser (the c lib), I did not update the lib
raschipi Right. I'll keep that in mind. 14:16
Zoffix So if there's some IO breakage that's not answered by the two upgrade notices, direct people to #perl6-dev as I don't monitor this channel 24/7.
Zoffix The notices being rakudo.org/2017/04/03/part-2-upgrad...rant-work/ and rakudo.org/2017/04/02/upgrade-infor...rant-work/ 14:17
Also:
huggable: known IO breakage killstreak
huggable Zoffix, 3 (doc test suite; Text::CSV; XML.pm6)
Skarsnik Zoffix, was it you that write a script that check the whole ecosystem? (running test of all of them) 14:17
Zoffix huggable: known IO breakage killstreak :is: (doc test suite[fixed]; Text::CSV[fixed]; XML.pm6[PR to fix github.com/supernovus/exemel/pull/43 ]) 14:18
huggable Zoffix, Added known IO breakage killstreak as (doc test suite[fixed]; Text::CSV[fixed]; XML.pm6[PR to fix github.com/supernovus/exemel/pull/43 ])
maasta hi everyone! quick question, is there an easy way to XOR two hexstring?
Zoffix Skarsnik: I will write one. The first naive attempt to use `zef smoke` took ages and I killed it midway 14:19
moritz m: say (:16<DEAD> +^ :16<BEEF>).base(16) # for maasta
camelia 6042
moritz like that?
maasta yes, did not think to do it like that 14:20
thanks moritz
moritz m: say (:16('DEAD') +^ :16<BEEF>).base(16)
camelia 6042
moritz if you don't have literals
Zoffix m: my $a = "DEAD"; my $b = "BEEF"; say ([+^] ($a, $b)».parse-base: 16).base(16)
camelia 6042
moritz maasta: you're welcome
Zoffix m: my $a = "-DEAD"; my $b = "-BEEF"; say ([+^] ($a, $b)».parse-base: 16).base(16) 14:21
camelia 6042
Skarsnik m: my $a = "DEAD"; my $b = "BEEF"; say :16($a) +^ :16($b) 14:22
camelia 24642
Zoffix m: :16<-DEAD> 14:22
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Malformed radix number
at <tmp>:1
------> 3:16<7⏏5-DEAD>
expecting any of:
number in radix notation
andrzejku hi 14:28
:)
skycafemix y $a = gather { take 1; take 2;} my $x = $a[1]; say join ", ", $a; 14:30
perl6: my $a = gather { take 1; take 2;} my $x = $a[1]; say join ", ", $a;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Strange text after block (missing semicolon or comma?)
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my $a = gather { take 1; take 2;}7⏏5 my $x = $a[1]; say join ", ", $a;
expecting any of:
infix
…
5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Strange text after block (missing semicolon or comma?)
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my $a = gather { take 1; take 2;}7⏏5 my $x = $a[1]; say join ", ", $a;
expecting any of:
infix
…
[Coke] skycafemix: use "m:" unless you really want to run jvm. 14:31
skycafemix m: my $a = gather { take 1; take 2;} my $x = $a[1]; say join ", ", $a;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Strange text after block (missing semicolon or comma?)
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my $a = gather { take 1; take 2;}7⏏5 my $x = $a[1]; say join ", ", $a;
expecting any of:
infix
…
[Coke] } only autocloses a block if a newline follows it. 14:32
er, a statement.
skycafemix Hi there, does anyone know why a semicolon is required after the right curly brace when executed with perl6 -e on command line or here with m: , but not when program is in a file of its own? 14:33
oh okay Coke thanks!
Sorry for newbie question, thanks. 14:34
raschipi #Perl6, where people answer so fast the answer comes before the questions.
[Coke] m: my $a = gather { take 1; take 2;}␤my $x = $a[1]; say join ", ", $a; 14:44
camelia 1 2
[Coke] ^^ you can pass newlines here, you just have to cheat. 14:45
timotimo unfortunately they already left :( 14:46
Geth doc: b8fba97c5f | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/IO.pod6
[io grant] Point out my $*CWD = chdir … is an error

Will eventually write a separate paragraph on all the evils of $*CWD and link to it from all the problematic areas.		 15:29
Geth doc: b81148c7fe | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/IO.pod6
Make wrong code being wrong more obvious

For those who read the code but not the prose		 15:33
vendethiel m: my %h = a => b => 2; say $h<a><b>; my @i = <a b>; say @h{||@i} 17:29
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$h' is not declared. Did you mean '%h'?
at <tmp>:1
------> 3my %h = a => b => 2; say 7⏏5$h<a><b>; my @i = <a b>; say @h{||@i}
vendethiel ugh, 5os
m: my %h = a => b => 2; say %h<a><b>; my @i = <a b>; say %h{||@i}
camelia 2
(b => 2 (Any))
vendethiel m: my %h = a => b => 2; say %h<a><b>; my @i = <a b>; say %h{'a';'b'}; say %h{||@i}; 17:30
camelia 2
(2)
(b => 2 (Any))
Geth ecosystem: 1c05cea280 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | META.list
Add Failer to ecosystem

Handle Failures like a Pro: github.com/zoffixznet/perl6-Failer		 18:20
beginner hi 18:49
raschipi hello
beginner is there a way to suspend the current process and start another process in perl6 18:49
raschipi You want to execute something else and wait for it to finish? 18:53
beginner want to execute something
raschipi "run" docs.perl6.org/routine/run Executes something and waits for it to finish. 18:55
beginner i guess this will help...thanks...my scenario is i want to check a variable value(n = 5)...if it is not true then i want to suspend this process and do some other asynchronous call...and then after the asynchronous call is complete i want to come back and check the variable again(n =5 ) 18:58
any ideas for this?
perlpilot beginner: I don't know about the "suspend this process" part, but calling something asynchronously doesn't seem too bad. 19:03
beginner if we take an producer consumer problem...instead of making it sleep i want it do some other process 19:06
raschipi When the process blocks, you want to do something else? You should just launch two threads and let the kernel sort it out. 19:08
vendethiel twitter.com/zoffix/status/847234269227253760 zoffix: this is the first instance I actually thought "hey, R=> would be useful here" :). nice snippets as always 19:10
Zoffix vendethiel: I don't get how R=> helps there. Unless you linked to the wrong tweet? 19:12
vendethiel well, `$text R=> do with`, I mean.
(it took me some time to understand you mixed a postfix with with a do'ed statement with)
Zoffix m: my $n = 4; unless $n == 5 { $n = await start { sleep 2; 5 }; if $n == 5 { say "all good now" } } 19:13
camelia all good now
Zoffix beginner: ^ that does what you described.
beginner: you can pop it into its own start {} and not care about `await` blocking this part of code. There are also Supplies 19:14
huggable: Supplier
huggable Zoffix, Live: docs.perl6.org/type/Supplier
Zoffix vendethiel: oh! right :) Then I have two uses of R=> now :)
vendethiel \o/
Zoffix vendethiel: well, I guess just one, since it's the same usecase: twitter.com/zoffix/status/846449596649877504 19:15
And that tweet is from earlier time, so I forgot my discovery doh :P
vendethiel XR=>, huh? What a mess it would be if we had to pronounce those ;-) *winks at Haskell lenses* 19:16
Zoffix Ah, slightly different 'cause of X there too :)
Zoffix "eks uhr fat arrow" not too bad 19:17
Zoffix returns to hacking on Perl 6 bugs
\o
beginner @raschipi & @ Zoffix : Thanks, will try it and let u know 19:18
lizmat . 19:22
samcv good * 19:28
moritz \o * 19:29
tbrowder hi, lizmat 19:30
lizmat tbrowder samcv moritz o/ 19:31
gfldex m: use MONKEY; class A::B {}; augment class Int { method B { A::B.new } }; sub s(B(Int)){ }; s 42; 19:35
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Invalid typename 'B' in parameter declaration.
at <tmp>:1
------> 3s Int { method B { A::B.new } }; sub s(B7⏏5(Int)){ }; s 42;
gfldex m: use MONKEY; class A::B {}; augment class Int { method B { A::B.new } }; sub s(A::B(Int)){ }; s 42; 19:36
camelia No such method 'A::B' for invocant of type 'Int'
in sub s at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
gfldex well,

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