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Xliff .seen TimToady 00:31
yoleaux I saw TimToady 18 Oct 2018 00:06Z in #perl6: <TimToady> my wife will tell you I go way too quiet when I'm thinking :)
holyghost I've started an ai agent system in perl6. There's an Actor MusicAgent class which you can ask for music 02:31
holyghost basically this actor has to be sent over the network, then it nestles in a server and you can talk to your local agents. They also carry a database with them with e.g. files, info. links, URIs, UTf-8 etc 02:32
holyghost the meaning is they are distributed from your home and venture forth on the internet so you only make agents which you like 02:35
e.g. on a non-reserved network port 02:36
holyghost you home server then lets them deploy music links for example 02:37
buggable New CPAN upload: AI-Agent-0.1.1.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/H/HO/...1.1.tar.gz 02:51
SmokeMachine Xliff: maybe a watch-path on /proc? 02:59
Xliff SmokeMachine: I'm trying to adopt forkstat for the process. Looks promising. 03:01
buggable New CPAN upload: AI-Agent-0.1.2.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/H/HO/...1.2.tar.gz 03:01
buggable New CPAN upload: AI-Agent-0.1.3.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/H/HO/...1.3.tar.gz 03:21
holyghost Instead of using learning I might go through a hash of common Agent "ask" functionality 03:25
then the agent gives you something
It now includes a NES Music ROM file sent
holyghost note that homebrew ROMS are not illegal 03:25
holyghost It only needs a protocol and a client-server perl6 code 03:27
holyghost It could also include a meta server but I might use DNS so you knock on someone's door if the agent wants to connect :-) 03:28
rogue/non-rogue port I mean :-)
buggable New CPAN upload: AI-Agent-0.1.4.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/H/HO/...1.4.tar.gz 03:31
holyghost eco: AI::Agent 03:34
buggable holyghost, Nothing found
holyghost back in the day, in pre-mouse sierra games, you could do "ask about *text*" or "look at *text*", which parsed your action instead of clicking somewhere, it's such a parser I need to let agents ask something on another one's system. 03:42
I mean to let your homeserver server ask the agents something
buggable New CPAN upload: AI-Agent-0.1.5.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST modules.perl6.org/dist/AI::Agent:cpan:HOLYGHOST 04:21
holyghost eco: AI::Agent 04:23
buggable holyghost, AI::Agent 'AI network Agent system': modules.perl6.org/dist/AI::Agent:cpan:HOLYGHOST
holyghost I programmed Bubble Bobble in GNU smalltalk yesterday, I'll see if I can make a system in perl 6 04:27
s/yesterday/on sunday 04:28
buggable New CPAN upload: AI-Agent-0.1.6.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST modules.perl6.org/dist/AI::Agent:cpan:HOLYGHOST 05:12
jmerelo squashable6: status 05:32
yoleaux 16 Oct 2018 16:44Z <AlexDaniel> jmerelo: is there a ticket for rerevert of the commit that was reverted in D#2374 ?
16 Oct 2018 17:30Z <AlexDaniel> jmerelo: I got to know about it in colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...10-16#l581 and was somewhat surprised
synopsebot D#2374 [closed]: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2374 [bug][site] Most search results point to pages that do not exist
squashable6 jmerelo, Next SQUASHathon in 10 days and ≈4 hours (2018-11-03 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day
jmerelo .tell I am not sure I understand what you mean. I reverted that and it seems to be fixed now, but my intention is to roll it back carefully to check that everything works 05:34
yoleaux jmerelo: I'll pass your message to I.
tyil using m:ov// I can match strings in another string, with overlapping due to the :o, but I can't seem to use :o without :v, and I can't find :v on the regex adverbs documentation page 05:37
jmerelo tyil: please create an issue about :v 05:38
tyil ok
tyil jmerelo: github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2406 05:42
jmerelo tyil++
tyil oh, well, after reading through more, :ov is 1 adverb, shorthand for :overlap 05:43
I thought all adverbs were single letters or full words 05:44
guess I thought wrong here
jmerelo tyil: maybe it should be clarified anyway... some
tyil it does say "(short :ov)", which is how I found out :p 05:45
I just had a wrong assumption and looked for the wrong thing
jmerelo tyil: maybe we should say we shouldn't do that assumption 05:46
tyil: just clarify that on the issue, and we'll take care of it (or close it if really doesn't need anything). Thanks anyway
tyil done :) 05:50
buggable New CPAN upload: AI-Agent-0.1.7.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST modules.perl6.org/dist/AI::Agent:cpan:HOLYGHOST 05:51
holyghost ^-- there's agent to agent dispatching now, there is a music (link) agent and a NES Music ROM agent 05:55
holyghost It needs to be filled with lots of parsing :-) 05:55
holyghost the Agent class should be usable I mean 05:57
now I'm going to drink a beer *I hate JSON, I'd rather have PSON" 05:58
jmerelo holyghost++ I've taken a look and a bit of more information could help. I couldn't figure out exactly what it does. 06:24
sjn o/ 08:14
sjn Anyone here considering going to 35c3 in Leipzig this year? :) 08:15
sjn thinks it would be cool to have some Perl 6 presence there :-D 08:16
masak sjn: it would :) 09:28
general question: how kosher is it to prefer \s+ to <.ws> just because you want to make the declarative prefix longer in a rule? 09:30
moritz if you are aware that it doesn't always do the same thing, sure 09:31
masak aye
but in this case I know it's whitespace between two \w 09:32
(and I don't have any "comments are whitespace" concerns either)
moritz may I ask why you need a longer prefix that includes whitespace? 09:33
it's likely fine, I just try to get a good sense of what's going on 09:34
(in case I ever need to write a v2 of my book :D)
masak hehe 09:45
well, this was sort of take II of getting something in 007 to work
I'm still not convinced it's the best way forward, but it seems to get me unstuck for now 09:46
I have a situation where I want to allow not just `func ...`, `macro ...`, `my ...`, but `export func ...`, `export macro ...`, `export my ...`
before that change, all those rules had an unambiguous declarative prefix, but when I made the change with <.ws>, the declarative prefix was `export` for call of them, which... didn't make the test suite happy 09:47
it all passes now, with \s+
before you suggest it, I could also do this by introducing a new <exportable_statement> proto rule, and do `export <exportable_statement>`. I might still go that way in the future 09:48
donaldh weekly: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/174540/66624 10:25
notable6 donaldh, Noted!
masak I don't know if I've said this, but I love writing a small smattering of multis to define a structurally recursive algorithm
the syntax isn't as clean as Haskell's, but the feeling is much the same: very much a focus on the declarative, not the imperative 10:26
multis are the best
moritz agreed, multis rock 10:53
scimon Afternoon all 11:07
moritz good localtime() scimon 11:13
scimon Point 11:27
timotimo today is not points-free day? 11:57
moritz pointcaree-free day :) 12:04
timotimo that's pure hyperbole 12:05
scimon Oh dear. Well apparently I need to get a hair cut. 12:09
lizmat
.oO( marriage comes with compromises )
 12:12
masak moritz: multis rock, paper, and scissors ;) 12:16
moritz masak: what about lizmats, erm, lizards? :) 12:17
masak we all have our lizards.
lizmat
.oO( the lizard queen from new orleans :-)
 12:18
masak .oO( warning: local lizards may apply )
when I do `use Foo; BEGIN say $foo` from a Foo.pm with `our $foo is export = "OH HAI"`, it prints "OH HAI" 12:21
do module bodies run as part of precompilation?
moritz yes, I think so 12:24
masak 8-ball: "all signs point to yes"
also, a `say "OH HAI"` in the module runs before a `BEGIN say "main"` after the `use` 12:25
masak pmurias: then I'm back to not quite understanding what you meant by colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...05-28#l232 12:31
it appears in Perl 6 "compile time" and "module load time" are *not* separate 12:32
I suspect in the end because it's Least Surprise to get runtime values from a module, not values from static lexpads 12:33
(yes, I'm thinking about macros being imported from modules, how can you tell?) 12:40
Zoffix What's the difference between "parametric" and "parametarized"? 12:59
jmerelo Zoffix: they are different things. You can parametrize something. I am not sure what parametric would mean in this context. You can do parametric design, for instance. 13:00
moritz only ever does paramedic design 13:05
masak Zoffix: far as I can gather, "parametric" means "having parameters" and "parameterized" means "having had parameters added". though I'm not 100% sure it's all that clear-cut. 13:13
Zoffix ok 13:16
Thanks.
moritz fwiw Rakudo contains 0 occurences of Paramterized and lots of Parametric 13:22
moritz ah, parameterized as lower case 13:22
Zoffix (FWIW, I was looking at MVMStable struct and its `paramet` union of `ric` and `erized` structs) 13:24
Zoffix masak: so is `Array[Int]` parametarized or parameteric? :) 13:28
masak: what differences are there between `Array[Int]` and `Positional[Int]`? 13:29
masak well, "generic types" are also known as "parametric polymorphism", so at least one of the terms is in use there 13:30
Zoffix: you might also check how the MOP in Rakudo names these things 13:31
I see GenericHOW, ConcreteRoleHOW, and CurriedRoleHOW in there 13:32
Zoffix There's both parametric, according to MoarVM
masak oh, and ParametricRoleHOW, as well as ParametricRoleGroupHOW 13:33
Zoffix surmises Positional is parametric; Positional[Int] is parametarized; i.e. it took a parametric type and created a concrete parameterization of it. 13:34
Don't fix my bug tho :}
guifa I noticed that in some of the older design documents, there was talk of using "method conversion:<Class> () { … }" in a class to allow for implicit conversion to any type. But I can't seem to get that work or find anything to that effect. It's not *horrible* having to specify $foo.Bar when a method signature requires Bar, but is there any way in the current spec to do that conversion automagically for any class? 13:54
moritz yes, with Target() 13:55
m: sub f(Int() $x) { say $x * $x }; f "42"
camelia 1764
Zoffix And the stuff in brackets is your wider target (defaulting to `Any` if you don't specify anything 13:56
m: sub f(Int(Cool) $x) { say $x * $x }; f "42"
camelia 1764
Zoffix m: sub f(Int(Cool) $x) { say $x * $x }; f class {}
camelia Type check failed in binding to parameter '$x'; expected Cool but got <anon|1> (<anon|1>)
in sub f at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix Docs are here, seems like: docs.perl6.org/type/Signature#Coercion_type 13:57
guifa But if you have no control over the method signature, that won't work 13:59
moritz correct 14:00
guifa Is there any disadvantage to using foo(Bar() $x) over foo(Bar $x)? Just a minor performance penalty if it's not passed an actual Bar? (just thinking ahead for future module design) 14:04
moritz in general, the error messages are simpler to understand if you use just Bar 14:05
moritz also, Bar is more specific, which matters if you use multis 14:11
SmokeMachine m: multi a(Str(Int) $a) { say "$a from Int" }; multi a(Str $a) { say "$a from Str" }; multi a(Str(Cool) $a) { say "$a from Cool" }; a 1; a "2"; a 3.14 15:03
camelia 1 from Int
Ambiguous call to 'a(Str)'; these signatures all match:
:(Int $a)
:(Str $a)
:(Cool $a)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
SmokeMachine :(
it would be great if that were possible... 15:04
and I think the error msg is LTA... is it?
:(Int $a) doesn't match a(Str)... 15:06
moritz yes, it looks like the coercion type is missing from the signature 15:10
lizmat m: sub a(Int(Str)) { }; dd &a.signature # appears to be missing, period 15:13
camelia :(Str $)
SmokeMachine R#2416 and R#2417 15:18
synopsebot R#2416 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2416 Signatures does not shows Coercion types when gisted.
R#2417 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2417 Multies do not use Coercion types constraints to decide what candidate to call
SmokeMachine m: say :(Str(Int)).params.head.type # I think the problem is here... 15:35
camelia (Int) 15:35
SmokeMachine m: sub a(Str(Int) $a) { say $a.^name }; a 42 15:39
camelia Str
SmokeMachine lizmat: Sorry, but isn't it accepting a Int that will be converted to Str? 15:39
m: sub a(Str(Int) $a) { say $a.^name }; a "42" 15:40
camelia Type check failed in binding to parameter '$a'; expected Int but got Str ("42")
in sub a at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
SmokeMachine and it doesn't accept Str...
lizmat SmokeMachine: the part that is between parentheses, is what it should accept 15:46
Int() means, accept Any, coerce to Int 15:47
Int(Str) means, accept Str, coerce to Int
SmokeMachine lizmat: yes... so `multi a(Str(Int) $a) { say "$a from Int" }; multi a(Str $a) { say "$a from Str" }; multi a(Str(Cool) $a) { say "$a from Cool" };` shouldn't conflict...
lizmat feels to me that it shouldn't 15:48
SmokeMachine the candidates should accept a Int, a Str and a Cool respectively,,,
sorry, I can't get it... what am I not seeing?
oh, sorry, are you agreeing? 15:49
lizmat yeah, and it does apparently conflict
scimon That is weird. 15:50
lizmat m: multi a(Str(Int) $a) { say "$a from Int" }; multi a(Str $a) { say "$a from Str" }; a "42" # should work, afaics
camelia Ambiguous call to 'a(Str)'; these signatures all match:
:(Int $a)
:(Str $a)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
lizmat unless I'm misunderstanding multi-dispatch 15:51
jnthn might know where we are going wrong
scimon (Side note Str(Str) doesn't work either (I do like the try weird things) )
SmokeMachine lizmat: sorry... but... so what did you disagree on R#2417?
synopsebot R#2417 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2417 Multies do not use Coercion types constraints to decide what candidate to call
scimon I would have expected it to work. 15:52
El_Che releasable6: status 16:36
releasable6 El_Che, Next release will happen when it's ready. 1 blocker. 489 out of 492 commits logged
El_Che, Details: gist.github.com/4f515d281cc4310f38...122b3727dc
Zoffix I vaguely recall there being some issue or by-design that the "from" of the coercer must be wider than the "to" and basically the "to" must typecheck to a "from" 16:37
So Int(Cool) is fine, but Int(Str) ain't, because Int ain't a Str 16:38
m: -> Int(Str) $x { dd $x }(42)
camelia Type check failed in binding to parameter '$x'; expected Str but got Int (42)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Zoffix Or maybe that behaviour can be just understood from what lizmat said that parens type is just what's accepted 16:43
El_Che Will this release be postpone to 6.d? 16:44
Zoffix El_Che: no
El_Che ok 16:45
El_Che thx for the info 16:49
AlexDaniel heh, postpone.d 17:00
AlexDaniel El_Che: yeah, I'm optimistic about it. Only one blocker left, though I might be able to dig more :) 17:01
jmerelo AlexDaniel: good luck 17:01
buggable New CPAN upload: Math-Vector3D-0.0.1.tar.gz by JEFFOBER cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/J/JE/...0.1.tar.gz 17:31
SmokeMachine is there a way to make the code runner by a EVAL do not access any outside itself but some stuff I permit? 18:10
I mean something like this: github.com/substack/static-eval 18:12
timotimo you can pass it the lexical environment it's supposed to be able to access 18:15
SmokeMachine timotimo: how? 18:16
timotimo looks like the docs don't say 18:17
s: &EVAL, \("hello")
SourceBaby timotimo, Ehhh... I'm too scared to run that code.
timotimo s: "EVAL", \("hello")
SourceBaby timotimo, Ehhh... I'm too scared to run that code.
timotimo s: 'EVAL', \("hello")
SourceBaby timotimo, Ehhh... I'm too scared to run that code.
timotimo s: '&EVAL', \("hello")
SourceBaby timotimo, Ehhh... I'm too scared to run that code.
timotimo github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/31b1...de.pm6#L28 18:18
look at the :$context named argument
SmokeMachine hum!!!
thanks! 18:19
timotimo YW :)
pmurias SmokeMachine: it won't be safe the way static-eval is 18:20
SmokeMachine pmurias: you are right... :( 18:21
m: my $a = 42; q"$a = 13".EVAL: :context(PseudoStash.new); say $a
camelia 13
SmokeMachine so... no way to do that? 18:22
Geth Blin: cd9e6ac312 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | 2 files
Turn off zef auto-update

Resolves #2.		 18:25
doc: f3b3fdd10f | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/regexes.pod6
Adds clarification for non-collating two-letter adverbs

Which closes #2406. Also some reflow and rephrasing.		 18:28
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/regexes
SmokeMachine m: my $a = 42; sub a { my $a = 13; q"say $a".EVAL: :context(OUTER::) }; a 18:33
camelia 42
Zoffix timotimo: SmokeMachine `:context` is not a public interface of EVAL and any code using it will break once optimizer gets better: colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log...06-16#l164 18:36
Also RT#128419
synopsebot RT#128419 [new]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=128419 [BUG] throws-like uses :context CALLER:: that will break soon 18:37
timotimo oh!
SmokeMachine Zoffix: is there another way to do what I'm trying to do?
Zoffix SmokeMachine: no idea 18:38
SmokeMachine I think that would be very useful... 18:39
geekosaur wonders how many people actually use p5's Safe 18:39
pmurias masak: BEGIN {} in a module runs in the modules compile time 18:40
SmokeMachine I was trying to port this github.com/olxbr/json-path-t to perl6... but without static eval, that's dangerous...
pmurias masak: a say outside of a BEGIN runs at module load time 18:41
timotimo what kind of features does it have that would be unsafe?
pmurias SmokeMachine: :context to EVAL will not let you do what you want 18:42
SmokeMachine timotimo: this kind of stuff: github.com/olxbr/json-path-t/blob/...ics.js#L73 18:43
pmurias: but is there any other thing that will let me to do that?
timotimo interesting, indeed. 18:44
SmokeMachine timotimo: what's interesting? 18:47
pmurias SmokeMachine: so what you want is to translate a JSONPath expression to p6 and then safely evaluate the resulting p6? 18:48
timotimo the features it offers
SmokeMachine timotimo: json-path-t? 18:49
pmurias: no...
SmokeMachine json-path-t accepts code after the `=>`... 18:49
timotimo ah, so literally any perl6 code, huh
SmokeMachine pmurias: the code after `=>` is what Id like to "static eval" 18:50
like I do here github.com/olxbr/json-path-t/blob/...dex.js#L33 18:51
pmurias with Perl6 being used instead of JS right? 18:53
SmokeMachine pmurias: yes... 18:54
pmurias SmokeMachine: I don't see a way to that easily without writing your own static-eval
SmokeMachine :( 18:55
pmurias: I had started to code that some time ago: github.com/FCO/json-path-transform 18:56
pmurias if I attempt to use a module that's missing in the list of places where it was searched I get /home/pmurias/.perl6 19:17
pmurias if I actually put it there it doesn't get loaded 19:17
unless I add a -I/home/pmurias/.perl6 19:18
is that how it should be?
geekosaur I thnk it's referring to repos in those locations for precompiled modules; zef installs under there, for example 19:20
this could stand to be clarified perhaps
buggable New CPAN upload: Sparrowdo-VSTS-YAML-Angular-Build-0.0.6.tar.gz by MELEZHIK modules.perl6.org/dist/Sparrowdo::V...n:MELEZHIK 20:41
Geth Blin: 977ca80686 | (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ | lib/Blin/Processing.pm6
Don't bother with skipped revisions

Previously it'd go through the whole trouble of fetching a build, unpacking it, and eventually failing (before it even reached that code). Just avoid all that by `return`-ing earlier.		 20:53
morreo p6: say 3; 21:18
camelia 3
Geth doc: d45b317971 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/mop.pod6
simplify
 21:36
synopsebot Link: doc.perl6.org/language/mop
SmokeMachine m: use nqp; my $a = 42; my $compiler := nqp::getcomp("perl6").compile(q[$a = 13]).(); say $a # :) 21:46
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$a' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
------> 3<BOL>7⏏5$a = 13
SmokeMachine m: use nqp; my $a = 42; my $compiler := nqp::getcomp("perl6").compile(q[say 1 + 2]).(); say $a # :)
camelia 3
42
SmokeMachine m: use nqp; my $a = 42; my $compiler := nqp::getcomp("perl6").compile(q[say "/etc/passwd".IO.slurp]).() # :( 21:58
camelia bin:x:1:1:bin:/bin:/bin/bash
daemon:x:2:2:Daemon:/sbin:/bin/bash
ftp:x:40:49:FTP account:/srv/ftp:/bin/bash
games:x:12:100:Games account:/var/games:/bin/bash
lp:x:4:7:Printing daemon:/var/spool/lpd:/bin/bash
mail:x:8:12:Mailer daemon:/var/sp…
SmokeMachine i think Ill have to not accept perl6 code, but a DSL... :( 21:59
Kaiepi say you have a nativecall function that returns a string with a bunch of null terminators at the end 22:44
when you use it in perl6 do the null terminators get stripped out?
holyghost Kaiepi: it makes no sense to use null terminators for e.g. $string.length 23:13
timotimo Kaiepi: they stay in the string 23:16
of course if you nativecall stuff that assumes \0 to be the end of a string, it'll stop at the first \0
holyghost that's why I said terminators, not terminator 23:17
timotimo oh 23:27
i totally didn't read the question completely
i would have to test, but i do believe strings will be read up to the first \0 on the return path, but you can also return a CArray[uint8] and manually read the right number of bytes and decode them to a string 23:28
m: Buf.new(97, 97, 0, 0, 0, 97, 97).decode.perl.say 23:29
camelia "aa\0\0\0aa"
holyghost m: my $str = Buf.new(97, 97, 0, 0, 0, 97, 97,0,0,0).decode.perl; say $str; 23:33
camelia "aa\0\0\0aa\0\0\0"
holyghost m: my $str = String.new(97, 97, 0, 0, 0, 97, 97,0,0,0); say $str; 23:34
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared name:
String used at line 1. Did you mean 'Stringy'?
holyghost m: my $str = String.new('\97', '\97', '\0', '\0', '\0', '\97', '\97','\0','\0','\0'); say $str; 23:37
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared name:
String used at line 1. Did you mean 'Stringy'?
geekosaur it's Str 23:37
holyghost m: my $str = Str.new('\97', '\97', '\0', '\0', '\0', '\97', '\97','\0','\0','\0'); say $str;
camelia Default constructor for 'Str' only takes named arguments
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
timotimo you can't construct a string like that
holyghost I see 23:38
geekosaur and yeh, all the core types have special constructors
holyghost So I should add '\0' etc with concat or .
holyghost m: my $str = Str.new('97', '97', '0', '0', '0', '97', '97','0','0','0'); say $str; 23:39
camelia Default constructor for 'Str' only takes named arguments
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
SmokeMachine m: say "bla\0ble" 23:40
camelia bla␀ble
holyghost m: my $str = "123\0\0\0"; print $str; 23:41
camelia 123␀␀␀
holyghost truncation method needed
holyghost m: my $str = "123\0\0\0"; print $str.strdup(); 23:44
camelia No such method 'strdup' for invocant of type 'Str'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Kaiepi damn 23:50
timotimo Kaiepi: what's your exact issue? maybe we can help? 23:51
Kaiepi i'm writing a library for cast5 encryption and the way it encrypts/decrypts strings, it can only take strings with length divisible by 8 23:54
so atm if it's not divisible by 8, i pad it with null terminators
but i don't want them to stay in the string afterwards
holyghost Kaiepi: maybe use a sum instead of a string 23:55
0xff = 1*16+16 then divide by 2 or something 23:56
I'm sorry 16+15
Kaiepi a sum?
holyghost sum up your ascii chars 23:57
then modulate with 16
or shift to get a character
use that as a number to en/decrypt 23:58
else you can use little endian strings or auto-strip 23:59
Kaiepi atm my code looks like this hastebin.com/ideheyaquf.rb

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