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| Xliff | SmokeMachine: Looks good, here. I haven't given it complete diff lookover, though. | 00:06 | |
| SmokeMachine | Xliff: thanks! | ||
| Xliff | SmokeMachine: For Red::AST:: descendants, what does the args method need to return? | 00:09 | |
| SmokeMachine | a list of every "important" argument of that node | ||
| Xliff | So it can be empty? | 00:10 | |
| Should it return an empty list, or can it return Nil? | 00:11 | ||
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| Kaiepi | what would be a good name for a module that lets you make enums dynamically at runtime? | 00:16 | |
| Enum::Dynamic? Type::Enum::Dynamic? | 00:17 | ||
| SmokeMachine | Xliff: yes... empty list | 00:18 | |
| Xliff: a DropTable would return the table name... | 00:19 | ||
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| ugexe | A few weeks ago a --contained flag was added to zef that will install all dependencies (even installed ones) such that you can do `zef install . --deps-only --contained --install-to=local`. It is still beta as i've not wired up support for installing e.g. Test, NativeCall (which are just skipped). | 00:30 | |
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| timotimo | gfldex: use the return value of the whenever statement | 01:03 | |
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| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: just to let you know, now `.^load` also works with uniques... | 01:34 | |
| tbrowder | ok, great! | 01:36 | |
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| lucs | How do I permanently interpolate the value of a variable into a regex? This for example fails the second match attempt, the regex having changed; | 02:46 | |
| m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /$s/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; | |||
| camelia | ｢S｣ Nil |
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| Xliff | m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /<$s>/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; | 02:49 | |
| camelia | ｢S｣ Nil |
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| Xliff | m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /"$s"/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; | 02:49 | |
| camelia | ｢S｣ Nil |
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| lucs | I tried a bunch of those variations, unsuccessfully :( | ||
| timotimo | you'll have to build a closure that keeps the value around for you | 02:50 | |
| lucs | I'm wondering it it'll take an eval... | ||
| timotimo | or use eval to put it in | ||
| lucs | Okidoke | ||
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| Xliff | m: my ($s, $rx); { $s = 'S'; $rx = /"$s"/; }; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; | 02:51 | |
| camelia | ｢S｣ Nil |
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| Xliff | m: my ($s, $rx); { my $s = 'S'; $rx = /"$s"/; }; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; | ||
| camelia | ｢S｣ ｢S｣ |
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| Xliff | ^^ | ||
| lucs | That should do I think. | 02:52 | |
| Thanks | |||
| Xliff | m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /<{$s}>/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; | 02:55 | |
| camelia | ｢S｣ Nil |
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| Xliff | Note that the <> form SHOULD be an implicit EVAL, according to the docs. | 02:56 | |
| docs.perl6.org/syntax/%20Regex%20Interpolation | |||
| m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /<{$s.Str}>/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; | |||
| camelia | ｢S｣ Nil |
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| Xliff | m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /$($s)>/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; | 02:57 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Unable to parse regex; couldn't find final '/' at <tmp>:1 ------> 3my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /$($s)7⏏5>/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' expecting any of: infix stopper … |
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| Xliff | m: my $s = 'S'; my $rx = /$($s)/; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; | ||
| camelia | ｢S｣ Nil |
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| lucs | I made the exact same typo when I tried that one! :) | 02:58 | |
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| Xliff | lucs: :) | 02:58 | |
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| Geth | doc: 461382f554 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Programs/03-environment-variables.pod6 Revises env variables page |
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| doc: 24d7ce0114 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/5to6-nutshell.pod6 Revision, grammar and reflow |
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| antoniogamiz | good morning :D | 09:41 | |
| moritz: thanks for the answer yestarday, I'll take a look at Math::RungeKutta to see if it can derive | 09:42 | ||
| andrzejku | araraloren, hey :) | 09:43 | |
| antoniogamiz | mmm it looks like it doesnt derive :( | 09:45 | |
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| antoniogamiz | .tell moritz with Math::Model can I calculate derivatives? | 09:58 | |
| yoleaux | antoniogamiz: I'll pass your message to moritz. | ||
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| araraloren | andrzejku hey | 10:04 | |
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| Geth | doc: 72dad49691 | (JJ Merelo)++ | 2 files Adds Collation closes #2644 |
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| moritz | .tell antoniogamiz no, Math::Model requires you to calculate some values that are interpreted as derivatives, and Math::Model integrates those values for you | 10:31 | |
| yoleaux | moritz: I'll pass your message to antoniogamiz. | ||
| 09:58Z <antoniogamiz> moritz: with Math::Model can I calculate derivatives? | |||
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| antoniogamiz | moritz: mmmm, then there is no way to calculate derivatives? :( | 10:45 | |
| yoleaux | 10:31Z <moritz> antoniogamiz: no, Math::Model requires you to calculate some values that are interpreted as derivatives, and Math::Model integrates those values for you | ||
| moritz | antoniogamiz: if you have a function f, a derivative is just f($x + $delta) - f($x - $delta) / (2 * $delta) | 10:50 | |
| antoniogamiz: don't need a module for that | |||
| (for small $delta, obviously) | |||
| antoniogamiz | moritz: ah okey, I knew that but I thought that it wasnt a good practica to do it like that | 10:54 | |
| thanks for the help :) | |||
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| moritz | antoniogamiz: if there's more sophistication involved, feel free to create a module for it :D | 11:34 | |
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| cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! List-UtilsBy (0.0.3) by 03ELIZABETH | 11:44 | |
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| antoniogamiz | someone can explain me what does this code :&assemble = -> *% { Nil }? | 11:58 | |
| multi sub visit($root, :&pre, :&post, :&assemble = -> *% { Nil }) {} | 11:59 | ||
| well the part that I dont understant is -> *% {Nil} | |||
| cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! List-UtilsBy (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH | ||
| hahainternet | that's a 'pointy block' that returns Nil | ||
| i assume that the *% signature is so that it takes only named arguments, but i'm not sure why | 12:00 | ||
| would have to be seen in context i assume | |||
| antoniogamiz | that function is declared in Pod::To::HTML module | 12:01 | |
| hahainternet | well presumably whenever else 'assemble' is called it's given named arguments, and so this is just a default that guarantees you can always call it | ||
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| antoniogamiz | ok, thanks for the help :) | 12:08 | |
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| Geth | doc/Match-Int-method: cd16648d0e | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Match.pod6 Document Int method on Match |
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| doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #2676: Document Int method on Match |
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| sena_kun | m: (* ~ 'a').cando(\(1)).say; | 12:33 | |
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| sena_kun | m: (* ~ 'a').cando(\('z')).say | ||
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| sena_kun | this doesn't match the docs too much. | 12:34 | |
| by the docs, it should return a list of candidates, but in repl it prints `{ ... }` and here it prints nothing. | 12:35 | ||
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| lucasb | m: my &c = (* + 2).say; c(3) | 12:40 | |
| camelia | 5 | ||
| lucasb | maybe you are WhateverCode'ing everything | ||
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| lucasb | m: my &c = (* ~ 'a'); &c.cando(\('z')).say | 12:41 | |
| camelia | ({ ... }) | ||
| sena_kun | hmm | ||
| also, we have in 6.d changelog: | 12:42 | ||
| aaaaah | |||
| never mind | |||
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| Geth | doc/clarify-gcd-zero: 5c0c06252d | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/operators.pod6 Clarify gcd with zero results |
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| doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #2677: Clarify gcd with zero results |
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| Geth | doc/more-uniprops-explanations: 35ea65f74b | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Cool.pod6 Extend uniprop(s) explanation |
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| doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #2678: Extend uniprop(s) explanation |
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| Geth | doc: 8da40fb12e | Altai-man++ | 2 files Update comb return type from List to Seq We had it in a different way from 2016.11 to 2018.02, but in 6.d it is determined to be this way and Rakudo supports it from 2019.03. |
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| Xliff | moritz: \o | 13:16 | |
| cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! List-SomeUtils (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH | ||
| New module released to CPAN! List-MoreUtils (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH | |||
| Xliff | m: my ($s, $rx); { my $s = 'S'; $rx = /"$s"/; }; say 'S' ~~ $rx; $s = 'moo'; say 'S' ~~ $rx; | ||
| camelia | ｢S｣ ｢S｣ |
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| Xliff | Is there a way to do that without the closure? | ||
| timotimo | m: say "ssssssSsssSsSssSss".comb("S") | 13:18 | |
| camelia | (S S S S) | ||
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| AlexDaniel | kawaii: fyi I'm going to cut 2019.03.1 real quick according to this discussion: github.com/rakudo/star/issues/124#...-473601759 | 13:23 | |
| kawaii: ah btw, regarding the changelog. There's this page where devs can quickly log their changes: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft | 13:25 | ||
| lizmat | weekly: Something about IR optimization - Bart Wiegmans | 13:26 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! | ||
| lizmat | weekly: brrt-to-the-future.blogspot.com/20...ation.html | ||
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! | ||
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| cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! List-AllUtils (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH | 13:31 | |
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| andrew | eeeey | 13:41 | |
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| andrew | whats up bois | 13:45 | |
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| lizmat | wood? | 13:48 | |
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| andrew | no | 13:48 | |
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| andrew | camelia is up | ||
| i almost read that as cspan | 13:49 | ||
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| cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! pack6 (0.2) by 03ALOREN | 14:02 | |
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| Geth | doc: 37d899c796 | cfa++ | 2 files Spelling. |
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| Xliff | What would be the best way to install a set of pre-build set of Perl6 modules? | 16:04 | |
| sena_kun | a dummy module with list of requirements? | 16:05 | |
| a script that does `zef install foo1 foo2 foo3`? | |||
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| Xliff | sena_kun: Well, GtkPlus takes about an hour to compile on a normal laptop. | 16:09 | |
| I want to be able to distribute binaries so end users don't have to go through all that. | |||
| sena_kun | ah, that's the different thing. | 16:10 | |
| Xliff | So using zef, as it currently is, will NOT work. | ||
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| Xliff | Well... it will... but folks will have to go through the pre-compile phase. And currently zef doesn't have a way to make that wait any less painful. | 16:10 | |
| Mainly, zef doesn't have periodic output to let end-users know that it is still working on the install. | |||
| If there were a way for perl6 to say "Hey I'm precompiling this module", it wouldn't be so bad. | 16:11 | ||
| sena_kun | I think the reliable thing you can do is to create a zef issue. | 16:13 | |
| Xliff | Oh, I plan to. I do think this is more a perl6 issue, though. | ||
| Not zef. | |||
| sena_kun | it'll be more or less persistent for more experienced folk to think about the issue. | 16:14 | |
| Xliff | It could be limited to zef, but I think perl6 still needs to support something under-the-hood for zef to use. | ||
| sena_kun | well, it is to raise the discussion. :) | ||
| Xliff | And trust me... issues tend to get ignored if not focused enough. I'd rather start the discussion here so I can find that focus and THEN raise the issue. | ||
| I've had this happen too many times before. | 16:15 | ||
| sena_kun | yes, that happens too, unfortunately. | ||
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| sena_kun | and we likely can do nothing with compilation time | 16:15 | |
| as I suspect | |||
| Xliff | No. Compilation times actually not bad. | 16:16 | |
| timotimo | Xliff: you can just "say" inside a BEGIN block to show to the user that precomp is happening | 16:17 | |
| Xliff | timotimo: Ooh! Thanks! | ||
| sena_kun: GtkPlus is some 479 modules. | |||
| Plus scripts and example files. | 16:18 | ||
| sena_kun | that's a lot. | ||
| Xliff | :) | ||
| leont | Is that GIR based or not? | ||
| Xliff | leont: It's NativeCall, so I guess that depends on the installed libs. | 16:19 | |
| But no, I just worked off of the header files. If there is something GIR specific that this might benefit from, can you post a link? | |||
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| Xliff | leont: .pm files were started from .h files | 16:20 | |
| leont | gi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ | ||
| GIR is basically an XML format describing the interfaces, so that the binding can be fully generated from that. | 16:21 | ||
| Xliff | Ah. No. | ||
| leont | Some really ought to write a MetaObject that fully understands GIR, and then magically lots of GObject based libraries (including GTK AFAIK) become instantly available. | ||
| Xliff | I wrote script to start the process. I had to then hand adjust everything. | ||
| Geth | doc/more-uniprops-explanations: 44b3ad917a | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Cool.pod6 Fix grammar |
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| Xliff | leont: Based on my experience from GTK, you can get 75% from something like that. It then needs to be hand-refined to be good Perl6 code. | ||
| But really, the 75% is still usable. | |||
| leont | It's a high-cost high-reward kind of endeavour though. | ||
| Xliff | I know. I'm thinking about doing it. :D | 16:23 | |
| Geth | doc/Match-Int-method: fdb9477727 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Match.pod6 Make examples clearer, fix indentation cfa++ |
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| Xliff | leont: GLib itself is GIR, correct? | 16:24 | |
| leont | AFAIK GLib is the layer underneath GObject/GIR | 16:25 | |
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| Xliff | Ah. Looks like there are files for GLib. | 16:26 | |
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| jmerelo | squashable6: status | ||
| yoleaux | 12 Mar 2019 13:50Z <lizmat> jmerelo: s/Stefaner/Lenz/ | ||
| 13 Mar 2019 12:21Z <tbrowder> jmerelo: have you seen any student interest in gsoc for p6? | |||
| 14 Mar 2019 16:01Z <AlexDaniel> jmerelo: I like the idea a lot, and I can totally do something like this… but maybe next year. I'm too busy working on my thesis | |||
| squashable6 | jmerelo, Next SQUASHathon in 18 days and ≈19 hours (2019-04-06 UTC-14⌁UTC+12). See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day | ||
| jmerelo | .tell tbrowder there are a couple here in Granada (antoniogamiz is one, you might have seen it around) and another one who contacted via email. Not a whole lot, unfortunately | 16:28 | |
| yoleaux | jmerelo: I'll pass your message to tbrowder. | ||
| jmerelo | .tell lizmat so right | ||
| yoleaux | jmerelo: I'll pass your message to lizmat. | ||
| Geth | doc/clarify-gcd-zero: 454bcfdd50 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/operators.pod6 Improve wording cfa++ |
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| Xliff | leont: Hmm... I can see the .typelib files, but those don't do me a bit of good. I need a way to go back to the original .gir | 16:33 | |
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| ugexe | Xliff: zef does not precompile anything. zef passes the distribution to CUR.install(), at which point a perl6 implementation may precompile so that they may be installed as well | 16:35 | |
| Xliff | ugexe: That's what I thought. | ||
| Ah, if only there were a way to inject a BEGIN block into every piece of code would run. | 16:37 | ||
| ugexe | im not sure injecting code is the best idea | 16:39 | |
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| ugexe | just make your install instructions: `RAKUDO_MODULE_DEBUG=1 zef install ...` :P | 16:40 | |
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| Xliff | Heh. Thanks, ugexe | 16:52 | |
| ugexe | actually | ||
| RAKUDO_LOG_PRECOMP=1 | |||
| which wont output all the stuff from zef itself getting loaded | |||
| github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/ffe8...n.pm6#L280 | 16:53 | ||
| Xliff | Oh. Even better. Thanks! | 16:54 | |
| jmerelo | This is just a reminder that the Perls are going to participate this year in Google Summer of Code, and we need to spread the word to get good candidates perl-gsoc-2019.github.io/ideas/ | 16:56 | |
| If you got eligible friends, tell them. If you can make a presentation in a local user group or university, do it. If you're yourself eligible, check out the ideas and prepare a good project! | |||
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| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: are you there? | 17:21 | |
| m: multi MAIN(1, :$debug) {...} | 17:22 | ||
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| SmokeMachine | m: multi MAIN(1, Bool :$debug) {...} | ||
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| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: 👆 | 17:25 | |
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| jmerelo | SmokeMachine: what's the probley? | 17:28 | |
| tbrowder | thnx, so some duplication there, but a bit less than my method for simple xtra args. | ||
| yoleaux | 16:28Z <jmerelo> tbrowder: there are a couple here in Granada (antoniogamiz is one, you might have seen it around) and another one who contacted via email. Not a whole lot, unfortunately | ||
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| tbrowder | ok, not surprising given so much hype about python and bad press about perl | 17:29 | |
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| jmerelo | tbrowder: I wouldn't blame anyone else... We really need to get the word out. | 17:30 | |
| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: what duplication? | 17:31 | |
| tbrowder | i know, marketing is tough, that’s the way to get rich: be a successful marketeer | ||
| SmokeMachine | jmerelo: no problem... | ||
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| tbrowder | duplication in that the debug arg has to go in each multi main does it not? | 17:32 | |
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| jmerelo | tbrowder: still, we need to gather a good amount of candidates. I'll do a presentation here at the university soonish, but we need to repeat that in some other places | 17:34 | |
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| jmerelo | .tell moritz geth seems to be down. | 17:36 | |
| yoleaux | jmerelo: I'll pass your message to moritz. | ||
| AlexDaniel | not really but let's restart it | ||
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| jmerelo | AlexDaniel: it's not sending latest changes in perl6/doc, at least... | 17:36 | |
| AlexDaniel | I no | 17:37 | |
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| tbrowder | i have sent emails to two colleges in the area and got response from one cs department head. he was not aware of gsoc (surprise to me) and assured me he would spread the word. i cleverly mention the potential for cs students who investigated p6 | ||
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| jmerelo | tbrowder: great! | ||
| jmerelo | AlexDaniel: what's happened? | ||
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| jmerelo | AlexDaniel: overload? | ||
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| AlexDaniel | OK I think it is repeating the same thing over and over xD | ||
| doc: 44b3ad917a | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Cool.pod6 Fix grammar |
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| tbrowder | the stipend was a real draw, too | ||
| Geth | doc: e482247f61 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Cool.pod6 Merge pull request #2678 from perl6/more-uniprops-explanations Extend uniprop(s) explanation |
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| AlexDaniel | my bad, sorry for bot spam | ||
| AlexDaniel | actually, maybe not | ||
| jmerelo: well, you know, bots | |||
| jmerelo: they like to misbehave | |||
| by the way I just released 2019.03.1 | 17:40 | ||
| so that's my 20th rakudo release 🥳🎂🎉 | 17:41 | ||
| tbrowder | can anyone recommend a good, modern book on db, especially one that uses latest sql syntax, plus examples in a current, real world open source rdbms (preferably postgresql and sqlite)? | 17:42 | |
| El_Che | new release? | 17:43 | |
| AlexDaniel | El_Che: yes but primarily for windows users | 17:44 | |
| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: you can do something like: | ||
| tbrowder: www.irccloud.com/pastebin/QBfp29MQ/ | |||
| El_Che | is there a point in new Linux packages? Maybe to not confuse users? | ||
| ugexe | only for ones that are missing uname | 17:45 | |
| El_Che | I must say I am not a fan (anymore?) of the rakudo release page | ||
| it's confusing as hell, and I know of rakudo | |||
| AlexDaniel | El_Che: I was also looking at the version numbers today and I was like “what?” | 17:46 | |
| so 2019.03 is also “#130” and why do we even have that | |||
| but point releases don't increment that, and that kinda makes sense but uhhhh… | 17:47 | ||
| El_Che | so only rakudo bump, no nqp bump | ||
| AlexDaniel | ye | ||
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| tbrowder | SmokeMachine: with all due respect, that is much uglier code than mine imo, although maybe a bit shorter. but, it’s your module and i will reluctantly use it if you wish me to. | 17:48 | |
| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: you can do way you want... | 17:49 | |
| tbrowder: but im curious... why do you think its uglier? | 17:50 | ||
| tbrowder | to change the subject a bit, i am changing my models to use the serial id on Person... | ||
| El_Che | AlexDaniel: I'll release linux packages in order not to confuse users | ||
| AlexDaniel | cool | 17:51 | |
| tbrowder | well, just my style i’ve used for years clashes with ALLCAPS sub names, and my not being a touch typist and all. mainly stiff muscle memory and stubbornness :-)) | 17:52 | |
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| tbrowder | but wanting to be a team | 17:53 | |
| player i will do as you suggest—your module i think already is a good example of heavy-duty p6 programming and good practices and i don’t want to detract from that. | 17:56 | ||
| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: MAIN is allcaps in this case to show its not a common sub... its a perl6 special sub... | 17:57 | |
| tbrowder: :) | |||
| tbrowder | i know, i’ve wrestled with it before, and even contributed an example to the docs, but it still doesn’t fit naturally to me. i really like the given/when construct for option handling. | 18:00 | |
| easy to code and modify for personal scripts. | |||
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| ugexe | since you can have multiple options you would have to use lots of `continue;` inside your `when { ... }` ala `given $foo { when any(1..10) { say "between one and ten" proceede; }; when any(5..10) { say "between give and ten" }; }` | 18:10 | |
| switch do not compose | |||
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| Xliff | ugexe: "proceede" or "proceed"? | 18:21 | |
| tbrowder | yes, much messier for more complex arg handling, operative word is “simple” arg handling. | 18:22 | |
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| ugexe | well, i wouldnt consider multiple options/flags as simple. thats a pretty basic feature imo | 18:41 | |
| i would consider^ | |||
| if your script has but one flag or one option, then sure. but thats about the only case i can think of. | 18:42 | ||
| one you have two options that are not exclusive then the switch statement gets in the way | |||
| uzl | .tell jjmerelo So I read over the Perl 6 project ideas for GSoC and I figured I might not be up for any of the tasks. I was particularly interested in the projects related with the ecosystem and documentation. | 18:43 | |
| yoleaux | uzl: I'll pass your message to jjmerelo. | ||
| uzl | .tell jjmerelo If any, what do you think might be a good roadmap to prepare for one of these projects? I'm currently taking my first C++ based data structures class in college and also looking for an internship. | ||
| yoleaux | uzl: I'll pass your message to jjmerelo. | ||
| jmerelo | uzl: I'm around here. | ||
| uzl | jmerelo: Oh... didn't notice ;-) | ||
| jmerelo | uzl: just check them out, and if you can think of anything above and beyond what's there, feel free, comment it, tell us about it here... | 18:44 | |
| uzl: they're just ideas; students should submit their own project proposals based on them, or something completely new altogether. | |||
| uzl: I'm obviously very interested in anything related to documentation, and there's a lot to do there... | 18:45 | ||
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| uzl | I'm also interested in the documentation since it's the entry point for any proglang. | 18:47 | |
| jmerelo | uzl: but that's not covered by GSoC. However, there's also a "season for documentation" for which we intend to apply later on... | ||
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| uzl | jmerelo: One of the projects is somewhat with the docs but it's about the tool revamping for the docs. BTW, wasn't someone working on that? Was is @finalyst? Not sure if they hangout on #perl6. | 18:50 | |
| Do apply it for that one ;-). | 18:51 | ||
| sena_kun | uzl, it is about tooling. But, I think, if you can help it out with enough time&funds at hands, I think, this will be awesome. | ||
| uzl++ | 18:52 | ||
| jmerelo | uzl: finanalyst will be one of the mentors for that project. | ||
| uzl | jmerelo: Oh, I see. Got his handle wrong. | 18:54 | |
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| jmerelo | uzl: he's around here from time to time. | 18:55 | |
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| uzl | jmerelo: I'll probably catch him around here. I see tbrowder and you are also possible mentors. Is a single mentor assigned to a candidate? Or can there be more than one per project? | 19:01 | |
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| moritz | back in the days, there used to be a primary mentor, and optionally a backup mentor | 19:16 | |
| yoleaux | 17:36Z <jmerelo> moritz: geth seems to be down. | ||
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| moritz | jmerelo: I know nothing about geth, except that it's hosted on hack. hack is up. | 19:17 | |
| jmerelo | .tell uzl there are several mentors involved usually, just in case someone is busy for some stretch of time. Summer is long... | 19:26 | |
| yoleaux | jmerelo: I'll pass your message to uzl. | ||
| jmerelo | moritz: thanks. Finally AlexDaniel fired it up again. | ||
| .tell uzl we'll definitely do that. | |||
| yoleaux | jmerelo: I'll pass your message to uzl. | ||
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| tbrowder | SmokeMachine: MAIN use incorporated, i admit it looks pretty good, and quite a bit shorter! | 19:29 | |
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| cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! P5getnetbyname (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH | 20:14 | |
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| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: good to know! :) | 20:28 | |
| tbrowder | i can do MAIN tweaks later | 20:29 | |
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| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: now its possible to `.^create-table: :if-exist` | 20:32 | |
| tbrowder | or should that be if-not-exists | 20:34 | |
| masak | one thing I had never realized until yesterday: `is export` wants the declarator to be `our`, not `my` (because we're exporting package-level stuff). but subs are `my` implicitly, so in essence exporting a sub makes it package-scoped behind the scenes. | 20:35 | |
| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: sure! I think Im a little crazy... | ||
| tbrowder | welcome to the club! | 20:36 | |
| SmokeMachine | fixed | 20:39 | |
| `.^create-table: :if-not-exist` | 20:43 | ||
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| lizmat | m: sub a is export { }; dd OUR::.keys # masak: exporting does *not* make subs "our" | 20:47 | |
| yoleaux | 16:28Z <jmerelo> lizmat: so right | ||
| camelia | ().Seq | ||
| lizmat | m: our sub a is export { }; dd OUR::.keys | 20:48 | |
| camelia | ("\&a",).Seq | ||
| tbrowder | SmokeMachine: the "if-not-exist" is not working for me. also, i think the sql is "not exists" plural exists | 20:54 | |
| cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! P5getpwnam (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH | 21:00 | |
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| SmokeMachine | tbrowder: not working? what's happening? | 21:06 | |
| i wrote it wrong here... | 21:07 | ||
| tbrowder: www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xTOVoAFl/ | 21:08 | ||
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| cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! P5localtime (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH | ||
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| tbrowder | SmokeMachine: may be a false alarm...let me test again... | 22:39 | |
| SmokeMachine: your fix works fine! i forgot to change lib location to use the fork's copy of Red | 22:44 | ||
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| lizmat | weekly: perl6.eu/gibberish.html | 22:49 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! | ||
| lizmat | # Gibberish by Perl 6 | ||
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| yoleaux | tbrowder: I'll pass your message to SmokeMachine. | ||
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