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weekly Rakudo status meetings with phase transitions: Tue 19:00 UTC | IR clogs at irclog.perlgeek.de/phasers/today Set by moderator on 2 November 2010. |
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| sorear | pre-posting report in case I oversleep | 10:31 | |
| done: | |||
| * been hacking on niecza, centered mainly on STD.pm6 support | 10:32 | ||
| * the context optimizations I talked about earlier are finally here; basic $i++ and $i == 1000000 operations are much faster | |||
| * have a very cute implementation of contextuals | 10:34 | ||
| * started parsing spectests on niecza-compiled-STD; up to 80ish percent | |||
| * reverted a sanity check - %foo<x> = (%foo<x> = 5) is now allowed, despite being semantically dubious. Needs discussion | 10:35 | ||
| * current build of STD: feather.perl6.nl/~sorear/v6demo-20101124.zip | |||
| s/contextuals/categoricals/ | |||
| * written some more docs and LHF file stuff | 10:36 | ||
| hope to do: | |||
| * a proper first release, since it's running nontrivial code | |||
| * steal tuits away from Rakudo and 6model ;-) | 10:37 | ||
| * talk on p6c | |||
| * come up with a solution to the eval/bootstrapping problem described in DIRECTIONS | |||
| blockers: | 10:38 | ||
| * none anticipated | |||
| use MONKEY_TYPING; augment done: | |||
| * dalek improvements - implemented a push mode which I'd like to get everybody using | 10:39 | ||
| EOR | |||
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| takadonet | lunch time cya | 18:53 | |
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| colomon | o/ | 19:00 | |
| mberends | \\o | ||
| jnthn | o/ | 19:01 | |
| pmichaud | o/ | ||
| colomon | pmichaud!! | 19:02 | |
| \\o/ | |||
| jnthn | yay pmichaud! | ||
| pmichaud | anything I should be wary of or know about before cutting a star release? | ||
| I know I've been... absent lately. On the plus side, I'm finally making good progress on $otherjob :-) | 19:03 | ||
| jnthn | pmichaud: I guess you know Parrot moved to git? :) | ||
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| pmichaud | yes, I followed that much :-) | 19:03 | |
| jnthn | OK :-) | 19:04 | |
| pmichaud | +1 to the folks who updated the build scripts :-) | ||
| moritz_ | \\o | 19:06 | |
| that would have been me, mostly | |||
| jnthn | moritz_++ | 19:07 | |
| moritz_ | I plan to move a bit more logic from Configure.pl and gen_parrot.pl to the comparison module | ||
| but ENOTIMEYET | |||
| pmichaud | wfm | ||
| although I'm "back" for a bit, we're heading out on 4-5 day holiday | |||
| I'll have some connectivity but will likely be busy until Sat | |||
| moritz_ | what would you think about not announcing a star release for next month? | 19:08 | |
| it seems to me that currently we don't have so much news that it's really worth a monthly release cycle | 19:09 | ||
| moritz_ would propose to go with 2011-01 or 2011-02 next | |||
| sorear | hi | ||
| pmichaud | well, 2011-01, likely, to follow on the parrot supported release | ||
| moritz_ | +1 to that | 19:10 | |
| jnthn | +1 from me too | ||
| colomon | +1 | ||
| pmichaud | atm, I'm inclined to go ahead and stick with monthly for 2010-12 and 2011-01 | 19:11 | |
| after 2011-01, if we're still in a mode of "not much happening between months" then I suggest we go to 3-monthly | |||
| I'm personally hoping that I'll have a very productive december. | 19:12 | ||
| esp since I've gotten a lot of $otherjob out of the way | |||
| jnthn really needs to motivate himself to work on nqp-rx and then Rakudo a bit more too | |||
| moritz_ | pmichaud: IMHO it's also time to start writing release manager notes for star | ||
| pmichaud | moritz_: agreed | 19:13 | |
| so, my goal is going to be to delegate the -12 and/or the -01 releases | |||
| colomon | +1 | 19:17 | |
| jnthn | pmichaud: Any sense what you intend to produce in a potentially productive December? :) | ||
| *sense of | 19:18 | ||
| pmichaud | bug fixes, speed improvements, nqp-rx code migration | 19:19 | |
| finish up the lists grant | 19:20 | ||
| get back to work on p6 module management | |||
| jnthn | Sounds good | ||
| Yes, help on the nqp-rx code mig would be great :) | |||
| pmichaud | that should be a busy enough december, if I manage to do all of that :-) | ||
| sorear | module management sounds neat. can you elaborate? | 19:24 | |
| pmichaud | I'm still behind on consulting with p5 folks about what they think we need to do/avoid | 19:25 | |
| so, after the holiday I'll (re)start that effort too | 19:26 | ||
| jnthn | pmichaud: diakopter++ has dug into PAST::Regex-y bits :) | 19:30 | |
| pmichaud | jnthn: excellent -- I did see his email message | ||
| jnthn | (For NQP.Net) | ||
| pmichaud | if there's a leg of the trip where I'm not driving tonight I expect to catch up on email | 19:31 | |
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| jnthn | pmichaud: Quite nice to see a good chunk of Cursor in NQP :) | 19:31 | |
| pmichaud | I bet | ||
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| pmichaud | I'm eager to see a lot more of nqp in nqp :) | 19:31 | |
| jnthn | :) | 19:32 | |
| pmichaud | wow, it's quite a while until the next star release (Dec 28) | 19:33 | |
| jnthn | EAFTERCHRISTMAS | 19:34 | |
| takadonet | pmichaud: pmichaud!!!! | ||
| pmichaud | yes, I was curious where releases would fall w.r.t. xmas :) | ||
| PerlJam | greetings! | 19:36 | |
| pmichaud: are you on irc.perl.org:#toolchain? | 19:37 | ||
| pmichaud | PerlJam: no. | ||
| PerlJam | (I'm not 100% certain of the name) | ||
| pmichaud | I'll eventually get there, but I fear bikesheds if I introduce the subject there. | ||
| (based on past experience in various other forums) | 19:38 | ||
| PerlJam | perhaps hanging out on #p5p and #toolchain (without necessarily engaging in p6-related conversation) might prove useful to gauge their receptiveness | 19:39 | |
| pmichaud | yeah, that's not a bad idea | ||
| PerlJam | I'm on #p5p and p6-ish talk does occasionally crop up | ||
| sorear | #toolchain is a very pragmatic technical forum... any bikeshedding there will be between people who know what they're talking about | 19:48 | |
| pmichaud | the challenge tends to be the (unstated) assumptions, though. | 19:51 | |
| and the unrecognized cultural traditions | 19:52 | ||
| there's a lot of culture that has built up around the traditional cpan, which in some ways isn't compatible with the perl 6 way of doing things | 19:53 | ||
| (or isn't seamlessly compatible...) | |||
| Util | (Late report) No Perl 6 work this past week; none expected until I am done remodeling Parrot's pbc_to_exe. | 20:14 | |
| EOR | |||
| TimToady | I guess I shouldn't say something interesting in #perl6 while #phasers is going on... :) | 20:20 | |
| pmichaud | TimToady: I think we're all hopeful you'll say something interesting anytime you have something interesting to say :) | 20:21 | |
| I have to go pack for travels | |||
| colomon | Util: yours was actually the only report, so far as I know. Guess pmichaud++ sort of reported as well | 20:44 | |
| jnthn | sorear++ preported | 20:45 | |
| I didn't get much done in the last week, mostly just bug fixing | |||
| colomon | I got @a[*-3 .. *-1] working | 20:46 | |
| sorear | (and no-one commented!) | ||
| colomon | sorear: I didn't know about it until 1 min ago. | 20:47 | |
| proper release++!!!!! | |||
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| Util | colomon++ # I was going to use that on RosettaCode recently, but it did not work then. | 21:03 | |