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weekly Perl 6 status meetings with phase transitions: Wed 17:30 UTC | IR clogs at irclog.perlgeek.de/phasers/today Set by moderator on 17 January 2012. |
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| sorear | pre-report: | 17:18 | |
| did (spec): discussed val() with jnthn, TimToady, etc; a couple spec changes resulted from our effort | 17:19 | ||
| started prototyping val | 17:20 | ||
| other random stuff: :(:$foo, :$bar?) bug in STD fixed; has $x; :$!x parameters; multi exporting fixes; * = 5 | 17:22 | ||
| added anon sub foo() { ... foo ... } support, based on an idea from GlitchMr++ | |||
| my $.x | 17:23 | ||
| TimToady pictures sorear++ reading through miles of git logs... :) | 17:24 | ||
| sorear | WILL DO: try to implement TimToady's latest ideas on <4+3i>; declarators; val() in general | ||
| EOR | |||
| TimToady: the best part is that half of the commits aren't even mine | |||
| ...woah, v13-300 | 17:25 | ||
| o/ | 17:30 | ||
| colomon | \\o | 17:31 | |
| Did: | |||
| * Implemented chmod, chdir, IO.copy, cwd, and a very crude $*CWD for niecza | |||
| * Stole printf and categorize from Rakudo for niecza | |||
| * Near complete rewrite of S12-attributes/defaults.t | |||
| * Modified niecza to support falling back to Real.Bridge for operations with unknown Real types | |||
| * Add FatRat tests for trig test suite | |||
| * Got a good bit more of roast working with niecza | |||
| * Got panda to pass all its tests under niecza (Does not actually work yet, alas.) | |||
| * Blogged to wrap up Pi spigot | |||
| Plan: | |||
| * Make panda work completely with niecza | |||
| * Blog post on Real.Bridge | |||
| EOR | |||
| TimToady | wowee | 17:33 | |
| colomon | probably most of the really important stuff I did was prodding sorear++ to implement and/or fix things. ;) | 17:35 | |
| jnthn back | 17:40 | ||
| colomon | o/ jnthn | 17:41 | |
| jnthn | I...did stuff :) | ||
| TimToady | \\o/ | ||
| colomon | \\o/ | 17:42 | |
| jnthn | Guess I needn't repeat the last week's commit list ;) | ||
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| jnthn | Priority for me is fixing up the backtracking into subrules stuff | 17:43 | |
| I really, really want that in Star. | |||
| colomon | +1 | ||
| jnthn | I can fix the bug I understand, which may in turn fix many of the tests. | ||
| PerlJam | And Star will be .... sometime before the end of the month? | ||
| TimToady | .oO(which month?) |
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| PerlJam | jnthn knows which month ;) | 17:44 | |
| jnthn | Sadly, I slept awfully last night, am tired from the day's teaching, and probably won't be able to hack a load more on it. | ||
| Star release is next week. I've fixed Zavolaj as much as I wanted, and am pretty sure I will nail the backtracking at the weekend at the latest. | |||
| Do want to make sure MiniDBI works again, but not expecting that to make long. | 17:45 | ||
| Got a relatively free weekend and next week ain't so busy. | |||
| PerlJam | jnthn++ | ||
| jnthn | (Ain't so busy at work. May be pretty busy with Perl 6 stuff. ;-)) | ||
| We're meant to have a Rakudo compiler release tomorrow. | 17:46 | ||
| PerlJam | Anyone heard from pmichaud? I texted him after the new year and he said he was hoping to be back on p6/irc soon, but I haven't heard from him since | ||
| jnthn | PerlJam: Then you've heard from him more recently than me. | 17:47 | |
| PerlJam: I last saw pmichaud here, before I went for Christmas break. | |||
| (here = on IRC) | |||
| moritz | oh, it's already #phasering | 17:48 | |
| jnthn | :) | ||
| PerlJam | Well, I hope he and Paula are doing okay. I'll probably give him a call to see what's up. | ||
| moritz | should we delay the compiler release until regex stuff work, and we're convinced the NCI is good enough? | 17:49 | |
| jnthn | PerlJam: If you do, plesae pass on my best wishes to both of them. | ||
| PerlJam | jnthn: will do | ||
| TimToady | and all of us | ||
| PerlJam | aye, that too | ||
| moritz | aye | ||
| jnthn | moritz: I dunno. | ||
| moritz: How much stick do we get for delaying a compiler release a couple of days? :) | |||
| TimToady | I might have a few carrots laying around... | 17:50 | |
| moritz | jnthn: I don't know or care | ||
| jnthn: as long as we release in January, I'm fine | 17:51 | ||
| jnthn | moritz: OK, then I'll join you in not knowing or caring. | ||
| PerlJam | delaying the compiler release a few days seems fine to me. | ||
| what moritz said. | |||
| jnthn | Yeah, it only needs to be to the weekend. | ||
| (Mostly, teaching is tiring, and laptop use aggravates my RSI.) | 17:52 | ||
| PerlJam | on the phone with pmichaud now | ||
| he says thanks for the wishes and he'll be back on IRC on monday | 17:53 | ||
| jnthn | ok :) | ||
.oO( pmichaud will get tuits again once I nail regex backtracking stuff :P ) |
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| moritz | jnthn: then he can fix all the list-y stuff :-) | 17:56 | |
| jnthn | \\o/ | ||
| Yeah, that would be nice :) | |||
| I don't mind having jumped into the regex engine really, though. It's increased the bus number. | |||
| And I can add les features. :) | 17:57 | ||
| PerlJam | pmichaud sounded well. He's just been real busy with things of late. | 17:58 | |
| (bigger bus number)++ | |||
| jnthn | Beyond R*, my priorities are qbootstrap, fixing bugs, adding features. | 18:00 | |
| I really, really need to dig into the serialization stuff too. | |||
| [Coke] has a late mini report. | 18:03 | ||
| ooh, it's quiet. niecza has, at two instances this week, passed more spec tests than rakudo. | 18:04 | ||
| [Coke] did actually write some code for niecza this week (splice, can't remember anything else.), mainly just looking for unfudge opportunities. | 18:05 | ||
| .eor | |||
| sorear | [Coke]++ | ||
| [Coke] | oh, I also did some rakudo ticket queue wrangling. | 18:07 | |
| [Coke] waves to pmichaud in the logs! | |||
| sorear | (pm on monday) \\o/ | 18:10 | |
| colomon | That reminds me, I wanted to again pitch my idea of having regular code reviews for roast..... | 18:11 | |
| [Coke] | I assume folks are reviewing changes as they go in. | 18:12 | |
| but there some crufty stuff in there for sure. (old splice tests, e.g.) | 18:13 | ||
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| colomon | nod. moritz++ and I found S12-attributes/defaults.t was completely broken according to the current spec | 18:14 | |
| moritz | colomon: +1 to regular roast reviews | 18:15 | |
| kboga | did: pick rakudo's LHF of wiring up "binding to array elements" (jnthn++ # preliminary compiler support & bugfix of "MD narrowness calculation for native types") | 18:17 | |
| [Coke] | colomon: +1. | 18:18 | |
| colomon ponders setting up a Perl 6 Roast Review blog on wordpress... | 18:19 | ||
| sorear | what would it do? | ||
| sorear is still trying to figure out what to do for the 'niecza blogging' idea | 18:20 | ||
| colomon | I was thinking it might kick off a review in the text of a post, and then comments could hash out the details. | 18:21 | |
| just one possible way of handling it, another might be to set a time and an IRC channel | |||
| jnthn -> finding dinner, bbl | 18:22 | ||
| colomon | afk # going to try skiing on what's left of the snow | 18:24 | |
| PerlJam | colomon: have fun! | 18:25 | |
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| masak | whoa! pm coming back!? | 18:53 | |
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| tadzik | \\o/ | 19:39 | |
| TimToady | well, maybe...we must reserve pm's right to have things go not quite according to plan... | 19:47 | |
| PerlJam | no plan survives contact with reality | 19:53 | |
| tadzik | post-report: minor test hunting in Rakudo. Plans: survive | 19:55 | |