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| masak | o/ | 19:00 | |
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| moritz_ | \\o | 19:00 | |
| PerlJam | greets | ||
| pmichaud | greetings | ||
| [Coke] | ~~ | 19:01 | |
| moritz_ | so, who's going to start? | 19:02 | |
| should I go? | |||
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| masak | please do. | 19:03 | |
| moritz_ | first of all I was glad to meet many of you at YAPC | ||
| and I enjoyed the productive discussions | |||
| now working on adverbs | |||
| for regexes | |||
| mostly inplace | |||
| is 'abc' ~~ m:i/ABC/ works | |||
| masak | moritz_++ | 19:04 | |
| moritz_ | TODOs remain: m:g//, return values of s/// | ||
| PerlJam | moritz_++ indeed | ||
| moritz_ also thinks we should focus more on the book | |||
| other things I did: answered p6 questions on perlmonks | |||
| blogged | |||
| gave a p6 talk | 19:05 | ||
| that's it for now | |||
| wait | |||
| still looking for "contribute now" ideas | |||
| implementing Path, IO::File and qp// would be an option, but I don't like these features myself :-) | |||
| if you have any ideas, please come forth | 19:06 | ||
| .eor | |||
| masak: can you give us a GSOC & co report? | |||
| masak | absolutely. | 19:07 | |
| there's one big thing and one small thing remaining in my GSoC work. | |||
| the big thing is pack/unpack. I've been gathering momentum (and data) in the past few days. | |||
| I expect to commit something this evening. | |||
| the small thing is making Buf IO encoding work. last time I tried, things got doubly encoded, and I discovered that some PIR plumbing is missing. | 19:08 | ||
| yesterday was the soft pens-down deadline, which means I'm tiddle bittle behind on my schedule. | 19:09 | ||
| that's fairly consistent with me basically being on vacation for the past two or so weeks. | |||
| but I feel confident I'll be able to bring the project into a 'finished' state by the end of this week. | 19:10 | ||
| 'finished' is in quotes mainly because pack/unpack are big scary things, containing years of cruft. | |||
| I'll go for the low-hanging fruit, and punt on the stuff that requires things we don't have yet. as I would anyway. | |||
| I also had a good time at YAPC last week. | 19:12 | ||
| many productive and inspiring discussion in the hallway, and many good talks. | |||
| oh! and people have been emailing and privmsging me over both u4x and Buf/IO lately. that's encouraging. | 19:13 | ||
| clearly there's been an uptake of Rakudo use since Star. | |||
| .eor | |||
| moritz_ | colomon: do you have a report? | 19:14 | |
| colomon | I had a very lovely time playing tunes and hanging out with out friends and new. | ||
| I had a lousy Internet connection, and gave very little thought to $work or Rakudo. | 19:15 | ||
| I want to spend more time on optimizations. | 19:16 | ||
| .eor | |||
| moritz_ | pmichaud? | ||
| colomon | errr, "old friends". | ||
| :) | |||
| moritz_ has an error-correcting parser for English | 19:17 | ||
| pmichaud | let's see... we didn't have a #phasers meeting last week (or I didn't attend), so | ||
| issued the rakudo star release and announcements | |||
| attended YAPC::EU | 19:18 | ||
| presented about NQP and Rakudo Star | |||
| had a wonderful time meeting and seeing everyone at YAPC::EU | |||
| drafted a new preliminary ROADMAP -- patches welcomed | |||
| working on cleanups to Star's build process | |||
| working on closing tickets | |||
| responded to many blog posts about the meaning of the R* release | 19:19 | ||
| catching up on many at-home tasks that have stacked up since YAPC::NA | |||
| my current plans are to continue with bug fixes, ticket closings, build improvements, and other management-y things | |||
| my hague grant proposal for lists/iterators was approved, so I'll be working on that for the next ~8 weeks | 19:20 | ||
| the book is somewhat more time-pressing, so I plan to focus there first | |||
| colomon | pmichaud: I didn't hear! \\o/ | ||
| pmichaud | I have local branches with refactors for Range and various numeric methods that cause things (esp. Int) to run unnecessarily slow | 19:21 | |
| moritz_ | (and colomon++'s final grant report was posted, I guess that means the grant is "done") | ||
| pmichaud | will apply those over the next few days, as time permits | ||
| I'll be away at $otherjob all day Friday. | |||
| I'll .eor for now | 19:22 | ||
| moritz_ | pmichaud++ | ||
| anybody else want to report something? [Coke]? sorear? | 19:23 | ||
| [Coke] | just trying to keep an eye on RT. | ||
| pmichaud | [Coke]++ | ||
| moritz_ | rather successfully :-) | ||
| [Coke]++ indeed | |||
| pmichaud | we really appreciate the RT wrangling | ||
| PerlJam | I have nothing to report other than I plan on working on the book if anything. | ||
| yes, [Coke]++ | |||
| [Coke] | well, the # of tickets is growing, so it's not working yet. =-) | 19:24 | |
| but, NP. | |||
| pmichaud | we expected the # of tickets to grow after R* | ||
| at least, I did. :) | |||
| colomon certainly hoped it would. | 19:25 | ||
| masak | oooh! RT, I forgot to say. :) | ||
| for the first time in two years, I feel outnumbered by all you other people when it comes to submitting bugs. :P | |||
| I almost made a blog post about that. | 19:26 | ||
| surely that's a good sign too for Star. | |||
| PerlJam | masak: you should! | ||
| masak | then I will. | ||
| colomon | [Coke]: what profiling capabilities do we have now? | 19:34 | |
| moritz_ | there should be PIR-level profiling with the profiling runcore | 19:39 | |
| I fear not much more | |||
| [Coke] | what moritz_ said. | 19:41 | |
| moritz_ | I wonder if it can be hijacked to honor annotations | ||
| anything else we want to discuss today? | 19:42 | ||
| moritz_ is fairly happing, having discussed many thing in real life recently | |||
| pmichaud | I think we're good for this week. Next week is the Parrot+Rakudo compiler releases, iirc | 19:43 | |
| moritz_ | yes | ||
| we don't have many new features in the compiler | |||
| pmichaud | several of us discussed that we'll suspend compiler release announcements beyond p6c for a while | 19:44 | |
| [Coke] | WFM | ||
| pmichaud | most of what we have in the compiler will be speed improvements, which is probably good enough | ||
| moritz_ wasn't involved, but is all for it | |||
| PerlJam | I saw that email. Sounds like a good idea | ||
| pmichaud | and we have some parser improvements | ||
| and I suspect we'll have a fair number of bugfixes, which is worth reporting on | |||
| moritz_ | aye | 19:45 | |
| mathw is doing the release | |||
| pmichaud | excellent -- mathw++ | ||
| moritz_ | I'll stand by as a backup if anything goes wrong | ||
| any volunteers for the Nov release? | |||
| pmichaud | I'll do the *+1 release again this month, and look to recruit new Star release managers starting in Sep | ||
| colomon | pmichaud: still the week after normal Rakudo release? | 19:46 | |
| moritz_ | maybe I should ask on p6c for release managers | ||
| pmichaud | colomon: yes, but I moved it to the Tue instead of the Thu | ||
| PerlJam | Is R* going to have some "theme" with the modules that get included in the dist or just "anything that might be useful"? | ||
| colomon | sounds reasonable. | ||
| pmichaud | I don't think we'll need an entire week between compiler and star release | ||
| PerlJam: "useful" is the star theme | 19:47 | ||
| moritz_ | we should include perl6-File-Find from tadzik++ | 19:48 | |
| pmichaud | +1 | ||
| PerlJam | okay ... what criteria define "useful"? | ||
| pmichaud | PerlJam: I'm not likely to formalize it much beyond that yet | ||
| PerlJam | wfm | ||
| moritz_ | PerlJam: if it's useful to at least one person on the channel, and another can see how it would be potentially useful for him/her, we include it :-) | ||
| pmichaud | if it's a module that's reasonably part of a core distribution, then it can go in | ||
| there's also a possibility that the next compiler will have a split setting | 19:49 | ||
| i.e., setting created via separate compilation. I'm gathering that's a relatively big pain point | |||
| moritz_ | oh, File::Find is already in star :-) | ||
| pmichaud | I worked on adding --target=pbc while on the plane.... and it didn't work. | 19:50 | |
| moritz_ | :( | ||
| any other phase transitions we need to discuss? | 19:52 | ||
| pmichaud | I'm done. | 19:53 | |
| moritz_ too | |||
| let's call it a day | |||
| next week will be more interesting, with jnthn++ being back | 19:54 | ||
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