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weekly Perl 6 status meetings with phase transitions: Wed 17:30 UTC | IR clogs at irclog.perlgeek.de/phasers/today Set by moderator on 30 September 2011. |
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| masak | I'll probably miss phasers tonight. here's my preport: been writing a gist about macros, but no blog post this week. fixed a problem with 'return' in macros that moritz++ found. | 14:14 | |
| gearing up to write tests for macros. big remaining thing with D1 is having ASTs carry their lexical environments around. getting plenty of good help from jnthn++. EOR | 14:15 | ||
| let me also proxy colomon's report: he has gotten the number of tests that Niecza runs up to 10419, an increase by 700+ tests. EOR | 14:33 | ||
| that's 700+ passing tests, by the way. | 14:34 | ||
| sorear | wow! colomon++ | 15:18 | |
| moritz prereports: DONE: the usual testing stuff; discovered a few rough corners with native ints along the way | 15:24 | ||
| * collecting a Perl 6 FAQs (just the questions so far) | 15:25 | ||
| * pondering a system for displaying them, and an FAQ bot | |||
| PLANS: | |||
| * continue doing stuff | |||
| * find more than 5 continuous minutes of motivation and free time to work on exceptions | |||
| EOR | 15:26 | ||
| sorear | DID: lots and lots of work on niecza/serialize, which is now as fast as master and passes >90% of the same spectests | 15:29 | |
| WILL DO: tie up loose ends (especially, the bootstrap) and merge it | |||
| EOR | |||
| jnthn | PREPORT | 16:39 | |
| Got the epic amount of $dayjob stuff over with for the month; if I'm lucky, the rest of the year should be relatively calmer than this month was. Was quite exhausted after it all, so could only concentrate for short periods. Thus, did lots of little things instead of any big tasks. | |||
| * Fixed type checking of implicit returns | |||
| * Hunted down a really weird bug with declaring subs in for loops and fixed in | |||
| * Got require to basically work, though no import lists yet | |||
| * Fixed multi-dispatch with required renamed parameters bug | |||
| * Various optimizations to Buf | |||
| * Optimized reduction meta-op a bit | |||
| * Fixed bug in return semantics | |||
| * Fixed various dispatchers/delegators to stop them accidentally flattening and make them more efficient | |||
| * Reviewed various exceptions patches from mls++ and applied some of them, along with various tweaks | |||
| * Greatly improved performance of contextuals. This in turn improved performance of print/say, which always need $*OUT | |||
| * A few numeric optimizations | |||
| * Improved optimizability of loop construct | |||
| * Gave int and num their correct initial values | |||
| * Gave assignment to state variables START semantics | 16:40 | ||
| * Various binder fixes for native handling | |||
| * Eliminted some pir::ops in favor of nqp::ops | |||
| Now that my brane is a bit more freed up to worry about Perl 6 stuff again, I plan to... | |||
| * Try and get some movement on bigint handling | |||
| * Try and get some movement on NCI | |||
| * Start designing the next phase of the optimizer (variable related analyses and transformations) | |||
| Plus I'll try and keep up with nomming tickets from the new end of the RT queue. :-) | |||
| EOR | |||
| sorear | o/ jnthn | ||
| jnthn | o/ sorear | ||
| Happy to see the serialize branch is coming along well :) | 16:41 | ||
| Guess I need to do my version of that at some point...though it's hard to get excited about working on it... | |||
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| [Coke] | jnthn: "sorry I was busy" <huge list of stuff worked on> -- way to undersell and overdeliver. ;) | 17:21 | |
| tadzik | it iz tiem? | 17:30 | |
| sorear | o/ | ||
| tadzik | \\o | ||
| mberends | o/ | 17:31 | |
| jnthn | o/ | ||
| mberends | jnthn++ # awesomest preport of the week | ||
| tadzik | report: github.com/tadzik/MuEvent blug at ttjjss.wordpress.com got some reactions even | ||
| also fixed some Pod bugs, and some nom regressions in Pod::To::Text | 17:32 | ||
| eor | |||
| mberends | <report/> | ||
| <!-- nothing --> | 17:33 | ||
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| sorear | o/ diakopter | 17:39 | |
| ...anyone have questions to share? | |||
| jnthn | Any more reports and/or discussion items? | ||
| heh :) | |||
| sorear is currently chasing spectest regressions in niecza | 17:40 | ||
| [Coke] | tickets mumble tickets | ||
| jnthn doesn't have anything much | |||
| Got plenty of things to work on. Just need time and branes to do it. | |||
| mberends | jnthn: I'll just say that I think NCI is more important than bigint in your todo list, if you have no preference :) | 17:43 | |
| jnthn | mberends: Yeah, I know people are hungry for NCI. | ||
| mberends | jnthn: and thirsty :) | 17:44 | |
| jnthn | :) | ||
| Will try and have something nice to report on that for next #phasers | |||
| moritz pops out of thin air | |||
| tadzik++ # MuEvent | 17:48 | ||
| sorear | o/ moritz | ||
| oops, looks like I broke pseudopackages a while ago and someone fudged the test | 17:52 | ||
| diakopter realizes I missed the meeting | 17:53 | ||
| moritz: are you thinking of including in your FAQ list the old "Perl 6 FUD FAQ" items? | 17:54 | ||
| moritz | diakopter: which items are you referring to? | ||
| diakopter | they're not phrased as questions, but they are | 17:55 | |
| search.cpan.org/~lichtkind/Perl6-Do...AQ/FUD.pod | |||
| moritz | github.com/moritz/perl6-faq/blob/m.../questions is what I have so far | ||
| diakopter: not really. I will just collect questions that people actually ask (in #perl6, on twitter, blogs, ...) | 17:56 | ||
| diakopter | I believe at the time that FAQ/FUD was written, those items were commonly brought up | 17:57 | |
| moritz | I can believe that, but I'm not going to write the FAQ for stuff that people used to ask | ||
| diakopter | Personally, I believe those FUD items are still just as valid and important to publish; if not in a "FAQ" I do suggest they appear on perl6.org somewhere. | 17:59 | |
| Util is late; still adjusting to new #phasers time. No tuits ==> nothing to report. | 18:00 | ||
| PerlJam | greetings | 18:04 | |
| PerlJam reads scrollback | |||
| sorear | hmm, Perl6::FAQ::FUD says that all Unicode symbols have ASCII equivalents | 18:05 | |
| do we plan to actually make that true at some point? | |||
| diakopter | I'm guessing some of that doc has rotten and/or was speculative | ||
| but yes, it was my understanding that every Unicode operator would have an ASCII equivalent | 18:06 | ||
| I'd be pretty disappointed if that wasn't the case | |||
| [Coke] | sorear: "making that true" - where is it not true? | 18:07 | |
| moritz | I'm not sure about the Set operators | 18:08 | |
| all the "usual" ones have ASCII equivalents | |||
| sorear | [Coke]: $¢ | 18:10 | |
| PerlJam | that's not an operator :) | 18:12 | |
| diakopter | that one does make me sad a bit | ||
| moritz | that one doesn't appear for any casual Perl 6 hacker | ||
| diakopter | after re-reading the FAQ/FUD entries, I'm realizing many of the "answers" are out-of-date entirely, making the FUD claim/objection/worry/fear/doubt a lot more valid. | 18:18 | |
| I can't think of good responses to many of them. | |||
| masak rezzes | 18:19 | ||
| diakopter | rezzes? | 18:20 | |
| masak | dangit, jnthn -- how can you have done so much on a week when you were *busy* with other stuff? :) | ||
| diakopter: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron | 18:21 | ||
| PerlJam | diakopter: opposite of derez (as in the movie Tron) | ||
| jnthn | masak: ...lack of sleep and a life? ;) | ||
| masak | ;) | ||
| I should look into those. | 18:22 | ||
| jnthn | Yeah, they're really overrated :P | ||
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| moritz | any objections to moving the perl6-faq repo to the perl6/ organization? | 18:44 | |
| moritz takes the half a minute of silence as consent | 18:45 | ||
| PerlJam | moritz: make it so! | 18:46 | |
| :) | |||
| moritz | github.com/perl6/faq # done | ||
| masak | moritz++ | 18:53 | |
| [Coke] | moritz++ | 18:58 | |
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