weekly Rakudo status meetings with phase transitions: Tue 19:00 UTC | IR clogs at irclog.perlgeek.de/phasers/today
Set by moderator on 2 November 2010.
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sorear pre-posting report in case I oversleep 10:31
done:
* been hacking on niecza, centered mainly on STD.pm6 support 10:32
* the context optimizations I talked about earlier are finally here; basic $i++ and $i == 1000000 operations are much faster
* have a very cute implementation of contextuals 10:34
* started parsing spectests on niecza-compiled-STD; up to 80ish percent
* reverted a sanity check - %foo<x> = (%foo<x> = 5) is now allowed, despite being semantically dubious. Needs discussion 10:35
* current build of STD: feather.perl6.nl/~sorear/v6demo-20101124.zip
s/contextuals/categoricals/
* written some more docs and LHF file stuff 10:36
hope to do:
* a proper first release, since it's running nontrivial code
* steal tuits away from Rakudo and 6model ;-) 10:37
* talk on p6c
* come up with a solution to the eval/bootstrapping problem described in DIRECTIONS
blockers: 10:38
* none anticipated
use MONKEY_TYPING; augment done:
* dalek improvements - implemented a push mode which I'd like to get everybody using 10:39
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takadonet lunch time cya 18:53
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colomon o/ 19:00
mberends \\o
jnthn o/ 19:01
pmichaud o/
colomon pmichaud!! 19:02
\\o/
jnthn yay pmichaud!
pmichaud anything I should be wary of or know about before cutting a star release?
I know I've been... absent lately. On the plus side, I'm finally making good progress on $otherjob :-) 19:03
jnthn pmichaud: I guess you know Parrot moved to git? :)
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pmichaud yes, I followed that much :-) 19:03
jnthn OK :-) 19:04
pmichaud +1 to the folks who updated the build scripts :-)
moritz_ \\o 19:06
that would have been me, mostly
jnthn moritz_++ 19:07
moritz_ I plan to move a bit more logic from Configure.pl and gen_parrot.pl to the comparison module
but ENOTIMEYET
pmichaud wfm
although I'm "back" for a bit, we're heading out on 4-5 day holiday
I'll have some connectivity but will likely be busy until Sat
moritz_ what would you think about not announcing a star release for next month? 19:08
it seems to me that currently we don't have so much news that it's really worth a monthly release cycle 19:09
moritz_ would propose to go with 2011-01 or 2011-02 next
sorear hi
pmichaud well, 2011-01, likely, to follow on the parrot supported release
moritz_ +1 to that 19:10
jnthn +1 from me too
colomon +1
pmichaud atm, I'm inclined to go ahead and stick with monthly for 2010-12 and 2011-01 19:11
after 2011-01, if we're still in a mode of "not much happening between months" then I suggest we go to 3-monthly
I'm personally hoping that I'll have a very productive december. 19:12
esp since I've gotten a lot of $otherjob out of the way
jnthn really needs to motivate himself to work on nqp-rx and then Rakudo a bit more too
moritz_ pmichaud: IMHO it's also time to start writing release manager notes for star
pmichaud moritz_: agreed 19:13
so, my goal is going to be to delegate the -12 and/or the -01 releases
colomon +1 19:17
jnthn pmichaud: Any sense what you intend to produce in a potentially productive December? :)
*sense of 19:18
pmichaud bug fixes, speed improvements, nqp-rx code migration 19:19
finish up the lists grant 19:20
get back to work on p6 module management
jnthn Sounds good
Yes, help on the nqp-rx code mig would be great :)
pmichaud that should be a busy enough december, if I manage to do all of that :-)
sorear module management sounds neat. can you elaborate? 19:24
pmichaud I'm still behind on consulting with p5 folks about what they think we need to do/avoid 19:25
so, after the holiday I'll (re)start that effort too 19:26
jnthn pmichaud: diakopter++ has dug into PAST::Regex-y bits :) 19:30
pmichaud jnthn: excellent -- I did see his email message
jnthn (For NQP.Net)
pmichaud if there's a leg of the trip where I'm not driving tonight I expect to catch up on email 19:31
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jnthn pmichaud: Quite nice to see a good chunk of Cursor in NQP :) 19:31
pmichaud I bet
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pmichaud I'm eager to see a lot more of nqp in nqp :) 19:31
jnthn :) 19:32
pmichaud wow, it's quite a while until the next star release (Dec 28) 19:33
jnthn EAFTERCHRISTMAS 19:34
takadonet pmichaud: pmichaud!!!!
pmichaud yes, I was curious where releases would fall w.r.t. xmas :)
PerlJam greetings! 19:36
pmichaud: are you on irc.perl.org:#toolchain? 19:37
pmichaud PerlJam: no.
PerlJam (I'm not 100% certain of the name)
pmichaud I'll eventually get there, but I fear bikesheds if I introduce the subject there.
(based on past experience in various other forums) 19:38
PerlJam perhaps hanging out on #p5p and #toolchain (without necessarily engaging in p6-related conversation) might prove useful to gauge their receptiveness 19:39
pmichaud yeah, that's not a bad idea
PerlJam I'm on #p5p and p6-ish talk does occasionally crop up
sorear #toolchain is a very pragmatic technical forum... any bikeshedding there will be between people who know what they're talking about 19:48
pmichaud the challenge tends to be the (unstated) assumptions, though. 19:51
and the unrecognized cultural traditions 19:52
there's a lot of culture that has built up around the traditional cpan, which in some ways isn't compatible with the perl 6 way of doing things 19:53
(or isn't seamlessly compatible...)
Util (Late report) No Perl 6 work this past week; none expected until I am done remodeling Parrot's pbc_to_exe. 20:14
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TimToady I guess I shouldn't say something interesting in #perl6 while #phasers is going on... :) 20:20
pmichaud TimToady: I think we're all hopeful you'll say something interesting anytime you have something interesting to say :) 20:21
I have to go pack for travels
colomon Util: yours was actually the only report, so far as I know. Guess pmichaud++ sort of reported as well 20:44
jnthn sorear++ preported 20:45
I didn't get much done in the last week, mostly just bug fixing
colomon I got @a[*-3 .. *-1] working 20:46
sorear (and no-one commented!)
colomon sorear: I didn't know about it until 1 min ago. 20:47
proper release++!!!!!
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Util colomon++ # I was going to use that on RosettaCode recently, but it did not work then. 21:03