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There are no known blockers. Changelog for this release was not started yet [09:16] JJMerelo, Details: https://gist.github.com/e9de66f35ca85d6de9cd93d80b2147f8 [09:24] Daily reminder we're running a survey for Raku users. Please take some time to answer it https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdRPBdn1iRN_sT8BMNMOBhVbEY1u8ngZWVwLyM37sqsa4OLwQ/viewform [09:33] *** codesections left [09:34] A few advances from the answers so far, almost half the people use copy/paste to write the Unicode symbols... [09:40] And it looks like the percentage of people coming from Perl has actually *increased* [09:48] did you know the end of the survey links you to the Raku/survey repo, but it's kind of outdated? [09:50] I wondered where that was. Let me see if I'm able to edit that. [09:50] And thanks. [09:50] YW [09:52] timotimo done. Also, too many "see"s there. [09:52] hm? [09:54] timotimo "see" was repeated in a single sentence. [09:55] sorry, where was that? [09:55] Around the URL you mentioned above. Looks like nobody did actually *see* it :-) [09:56] *** HarmtH joined [09:56] i clicked the link too fast and didn't realize it'd navigate the tab [09:56] then i couldn't navigate back [09:56] I've checked the "answers can be edited" slot also. [09:59] `gdb --args nqp -e ''` will let me run an empty nqp program no problem, but when i "run" or "start" again in the gdb commandline, i get moar's usage help because it doesn't recognize -e, even though it's supposed to be a flag to nqp, not moar [10:02] seems to have to do with how the binary execs moar [10:05] *** JJMerelo left [10:05] *** vrurg_ joined [10:05] *** JJMerelo joined [10:06] *** ccamel left [10:06] *** vrurg left [10:06] *** Kaiepi left [10:10] *** Kaiepi joined [10:10] JJMerelo: don't forget to change the link of "published web" to say "raku" and "survey" instead of "perl6" and "p6survey" [10:11] timotimo that's what I have done... [10:11] oh, ok [10:11] i didn't f5 i guess [10:12] *** kawaii left [10:12] You can't without resending the answers, I guess... [10:12] *** camelCaser joined [10:12] *** zostay left [10:12] *** tbrowder left [10:13] *** tbrowder joined [10:13] *** zostay joined [10:14] *** Kaiepi left [10:14] *** camelia left [10:14] *** Kaiepi joined [10:18] *** zostay left [10:19] oh, i meant in the repository readme.md [10:20] *** camelia joined [10:23] timotimo ah, OK. I though you were saying in the survey's answers. [10:24] i can't see that :D [10:24] *** zostay joined [10:25] *** TreyHarris left [10:25] *** TreyHarris joined [10:25] That specific link is fixed now https://raku.github.io/survey/ But I need to change the name of the repo. 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[14:07] m: my $s = 'a:b/c'; say $s.split(/':'|'/'/); [14:07] rakudo-moar fc75105fb: OUTPUT: «(a b c)␤» [14:08] different results when splitting on a Regex [14:09] *** thundergnat left [14:17] raku: my $s = 'a:b/c'; say $s.split(<: />); [14:17] gfldex, rakudo-moar fc75105fb: OUTPUT: «(a b c)␤» [14:18] i did the expect the same result as with a list of matchers [14:20] if the current form is corrects it's an ENODOC as the docs states: "and splits it into pieces based on delimiters found in the string" [14:21] Based on that wording I expect to get a Positional in any case. (That Positional may be a single value tho.) [15:13] *** MasterDuke joined [16:14] ¦ nqp/more-hash-iterator-tests: a869ffd311 | (Nicholas Clark)++ | t/nqp/108-vmhash.t [16:14] ¦ nqp/more-hash-iterator-tests: Tests for iterators on empty hashes, and iterators without deleting. 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[16:45] ¦ rakudo/fix-pod-to-text-warn: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/9a4074783f [16:50] was a pointy block ever a routine and not a block in history? [16:51] committable6: releases say (-> { }) ~~ Routine [16:51] for instance, at https://ajs.github.io/tools/blocks/ its described as a "pointy sub" and "anonymous routine" [16:51] timotimo, ¦releases (46 commits): «False␤» [16:51] and for some reason that feels like it used to be true... idk. [16:54] that would have been a time where for @foo -> $bar { return if $bar eq "hi" } wouldn't return from the containing routine, and also not terminate the loop [16:54] we did have a time where many for loops would end up lazy on accident i guess [16:56] maybe that's it [18:12] *** camelCaser left [18:13] *** camelCaser joined [18:42] m: say (sub { }) ~~ Routine [18:42] rakudo-moar fc75105fb: OUTPUT: «True␤» [18:42] jdv79: looks correct to me, it's not a routine. Same goes for using `return`, for example. 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