[00:25] *** MasterDuke joined [00:26] https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/main/src/Raku/Actions.nqp#L471-L478 seems to be the relevant code [00:26] *** librasteve_ left [00:27] oh i totally missed that there was a -n there [00:30] my rakudo isn't up to latest and in there i get 1 as the output, and when i change `my` to `state` I get the number of lines [00:31] yeah, state works [00:31] oh, i thought it outputs the last line rather than the value in the variable? [00:31] it outputs the value of .words.elems on the last line, instead of the sum of all of them [00:32] oh, that could be [00:32] i.e., as if `$w` was being declared for each line [00:39] i thought that's the same as without rakuast that you need `state` if you want the value to stick around [00:40] not when "predeclaring" it with BEGIN [00:41] that's a little odd though [00:43] though i think `state` was created as a more convenient form of using BEGIN for this kind of thing [00:43] not sure state was for exactly this :D [00:46] heh, this is about %110 of my use-cases for state [00:49] well, that makes sense :) [00:49] I tend to start with -e and lines().map [00:50] that usually makes it easier to expand to a script that has a "second stage" that would otherwise have to be a huge END block [00:51] but of course -ne and -pe are meant to be useful in a larger pipeline of commands, too [00:51] i would just grow and grow the END block. it would end up wrapping several times in a full-screen terminal [00:52] once or twice i did end up converting it into an actual script, with multiple lines, indentation, the whole works [00:54] earlier today i wrote `perl -nE 'if (/<(\d+\.\d+)>) { $t += $1 }; END { say $t }' `, because i was on a computer that didn't have raku installed [00:56] right now that sort of thing is my main use case for perl/raku, usually a bit more complicated though [00:58] so bringing it back to the original example. using `RAKUDO_RAKUAST=1` it works with `state`, but not with `BEGIN`, legacy frontend works with both [01:36] *** MasterDuke left [02:59] *** ShimmerFairy left [03:00] *** ShimmerFairy joined [03:29] *** djinni` left [03:42] *** djinni` joined [03:58] *** ntv joined [03:58] *** apogee_ntv left [03:59] *** ntv is now known as apogee_ntv [04:32] MasterDuke: nah i've just been focused on getting things to work, although i do look at optimization stuff if it is blocking me, e.g. https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/6125 [04:32] ugexe, I'll pass your message to MasterDuke [04:36] But note zef doesn’t work under rakuast so I’m not sure we’re that close to a clean enough blin run [08:42] *** apogee_ntv left [08:43] *** apogee_ntv joined [10:00] ¦ rakudo/main: 4 commits pushed by (Nick Logan)++, (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ [10:00] ¦ rakudo/main: c2db2a1c58 | RakuAST: re-allocate @!compstuff in IMPL-LINK-META-OBJECT if cleanup nulled it [10:00] ¦ rakudo/main: ce27945111 | EVAL: register compiled code refs and drain cleanup for AST EVAL [10:00] ¦ rakudo/main: 45b604d745 | Test: regression for #6169 (.assuming in precompiled module loaded via another) [10:00] ¦ rakudo/main: a716df8f53 | Merge pull request #6170 from ugexe/ugexe/issue-6169 [10:00] ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/compare/b49217d2d751...a716df8f53c6 [10:21] m: dd sprintf(q/%#o/,-10) # meh [10:21] lizmat, rakudo-moar a716df8f5: OUTPUT: «Cannot test a716df8f53c61176dbec515cb187a9751130bde2 (Commit exists, but an executable could not be built for it)» [10:21] (2026-05-09) https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/a716df8f53 Merge pull request #6170 from ugexe/ugexe/issue-6169 [10:21] m: dd sprintf(q/%#o/,-10) # meh [10:21] lizmat, rakudo-moar a716df8f5: OUTPUT: «Cannot test a716df8f53c61176dbec515cb187a9751130bde2 (Commit exists, but an executable could not be built for it)» [10:21] weird [10:22] * lizmat rebuilds from scratch [10:25] intriguing... build fails from scratch [10:34] hmmm... cannot repro :-( [10:34] m: dd sprintf(q/%#o/,-10) # meh [10:34] lizmat, rakudo-moar a716df8f5: OUTPUT: «Cannot test a716df8f53c61176dbec515cb187a9751130bde2 (Commit exists, but an executable could not be built for it)» [10:34] (2026-05-09) https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/a716df8f53 Merge pull request #6170 from ugexe/ugexe/issue-6169 [10:34] ¦ rakudo/main: 0dcdb5c50e | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.e/Format.rakumod [10:34] ¦ rakudo/main: Make Format.raku subclass safe [10:34] ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/0dcdb5c50e [10:35] originally planned as a part of a bigger commit, checking if it builds now [10:37] m: dd sprintf(q/%#o/,-10) # meh [10:37] lizmat, rakudo-moar a716df8f5: OUTPUT: «Cannot test a716df8f53c61176dbec515cb187a9751130bde2 (Commit exists, but an executable could not be built for it)» [10:37] (2026-05-09) https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/a716df8f53 Merge pull request #6170 from ugexe/ugexe/issue-6169 [10:38] anyways, the result is: "0-12" [10:38] which is wrong [10:54] m: dd sprintf(q/%#o/,-10) # meh [10:54] lizmat, rakudo-moar 0dcdb5c50: OUTPUT: «"0-12"␤» [11:05] wonders if there's Grammar for sprintf s? [11:06] yes, there is: the original one lives in NQP, and the new one lives in src/core.e/Formatter/Grammar.rakumod [11:07] in NQP: src/HLL/sprintf.nqp [11:15] ++ [11:17] mind you, I did a lot of work on Formatter in the 2020-2023 years... but then I stopped because it couldn't be really put into production because of precomp issues [11:18] I now see there's a bunch of issues that need to be fixed, and am working on that [11:18] (what didn't help was that the spectests for the new implementation were not run by standard spectest) [11:43] *** shareable6 left [11:44] *** shareable6 joined