[02:13] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: ugexe++ created pull request #6203: RakuAST: smartmatch against a Match no longer returns a magic value

[02:13] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/6203

[03:00] <releasable6> Next release in ≈1 day and ≈15 hours. There are no known blockers. Please log your changes in the ChangeLog: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft

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[13:16] <[Coke]> So, I happen to have a day off from work today. I don't suppose anyone would be mad if the release happened a day early? In any case, I'll get it started probably around noon here.

[13:24] <lizmat> [Coke]++

[13:24] <lizmat> and +1

[13:25] <lizmat> I just realized that stringification of FatRats has been limited to 6 digits since like forever

[13:26] <lizmat> and I guess I also want to change that to 16 digits...  but that would require spectest changes...  which I'm more comfortable with now, then 7 years ago when I first noticed that oddity

[13:27] <lizmat> also, I'm thinking of making stringification of (Fat)Rats to be special cases of the sprintf %g format, rather than the other way aroudn

[14:48] <disbot4> <librasteve> not sure what you get from the additional 10 digits (16-6) ... from a stringification, I guess you want (i) a reasonably readable format, (ii) an idea of the value, different strings are always different values and (iv) an idea of the type

[14:50] <disbot4> <librasteve> the score for 16 vs 6 is (i) worse (16 bits is "too much info"), (ii) worse (ditto), (iii) same (can't ever guarantee for (Fat)Rats) and (iv) same

[14:51] <disbot4> <librasteve> to me it boils down to do you want you FatRat strings to look different to Rat strings - personally I am fine with them looking the same and calling dd or ^name to work out what I got

[14:51] <disbot4> <librasteve> anyway use FatRatStr and get the whole hog!

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[15:51] <thundergnat> FWIW, I would be in favor of increasing the default minimum precision of FatRats. When I submitted the pull request overhauling and speeding up FatRat stringification 7(?) years ago, this comment was added. https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/main/src/core.c/Rational.rakumod#L130  lizmat ended up doing further optimizing before it was merged,

[15:51] <thundergnat> but the comment is still there.

[15:52] <thundergnat> When it didn't happen, I wrote https://raku.land/zef:thundergnat/Rat::Precise to make up for it. (Which is more configurable anyway.)

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/release-2026.05: 4770cbe182 | (Will Coleda)++ | 3 files

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/release-2026.05: Update changelog + announcement

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/release-2026.05: 

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/release-2026.05: Deliberately not logged:

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/release-2026.05: 

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/release-2026.05: [4acea051][eb798378][f6d89e38][a1f6cb4f][4f641591][0523e6b2][155528fe]

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/release-2026.05: [ed5ddf8c][300ee1d9][f2273bf1]

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/release-2026.05: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/4770cbe182

[15:53] <thundergnat> My point being: thumbs up from me. (Not a dev, but a frequent user of Raku.)

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[16:05] <[Coke]> MoarVM release in progress

[16:06] <timo> wheee

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[18:44] <[Coke]> sorry, left for lunch half way through. :)

[19:19] <[Coke]> MoarVM 2026.05 done

[19:38] <[Coke]> please fix the .perl call in JSON::Fast. It's also showing up in the release process.

[19:56] <patrickb> I might manage to do the binaries tonight. But I still can't do Mac on arm. My Mac stadium machine has turned inaccessible for some reason...

[19:57] <patrickb> timo: Did you also have access to that machine? Can you try if you can still login?