[00:16] ¦ rakudo: ugexe++ created pull request #6244: RakuAST: skip compile-time trial-bind for type-capture generics [00:16] ¦ rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/6244 [00:45] *** guifa joined [00:56] ¦ rakudo: coke assigned to timo Issue Crash of Rakudo 2026.05 Linux binary https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/6231 [10:19] *** Geth joined [10:35] ¦ rakudo/main: 97175283b7 | (Nick Logan)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files [10:35] ¦ rakudo/main: RakuAST: re-resolve `Call::Name` at CHECK to pick up a forward `sub` [10:35] ¦ rakudo/main: [10:35] ¦ rakudo/main: `Call::Name::PERFORM-BEGIN` resolves the call's name against the [10:35] ¦ rakudo/main: resolver's lexical chain. A `my`-scoped `sub foo { }` declared later [10:35] ¦ rakudo/main: in the same scope is hoisted to the start of that scope, but the [10:35] ¦ rakudo/main: hoist happens at parse time of the declaration, which is *after* the [10:35] ¦ rakudo/main: call's BEGIN-time pass. The call therefore resolved against an [10:35] ¦ rakudo/main: <…commit message has 17 more lines…> [10:35] ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/97175283b7 [10:37] ¦ rakudo/main: dde1224e5c | (Nick Logan)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files [10:37] ¦ rakudo/main: RakuAST: skip compile-time trial-bind for type-capture generics [10:37] ¦ rakudo/main: [10:37] ¦ rakudo/main: `RakuAST::Call::Name::PERFORM-CHECK` walks the call's arguments and [10:37] ¦ rakudo/main: trial-binds them against the resolved routine's signature. Each [10:37] ¦ rakudo/main: argument's `return-type` is collected, then `nqp::p6trialbind` [10:37] ¦ rakudo/main: decides whether the call could ever match. [10:37] ¦ rakudo/main: [10:37] ¦ rakudo/main: <…commit message has 20 more lines…> [10:37] ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/dde1224e5c [11:44] ok, so the zef version of JSON::Fast hasn't shown up on raku.land and since `zef search` doesn't find it I assume it's also not on 360.zef.pm either [11:44] ¦ setup-raku/update-dependencies: bcb7776a2f | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | 3 files [11:44] ¦ setup-raku/update-dependencies: Update npm dependencies [11:44] ¦ setup-raku/update-dependencies: [11:44] ¦ setup-raku/update-dependencies: Co-authored-by: Codex <267193182+codex@users.noreply.github.com> [11:44] ¦ setup-raku/update-dependencies: review: https://github.com/Raku/setup-raku/commit/bcb7776a2f [11:44] ¦ setup-raku/update-dependencies: c2ce07a600 | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | 4 files [11:44] ¦ setup-raku/update-dependencies: Tighten TypeScript configuration [11:44] ¦ setup-raku/update-dependencies: [11:44] ¦ setup-raku/update-dependencies: Co-authored-by: Codex <267193182+codex@users.noreply.github.com> [11:44] ¦ setup-raku/update-dependencies: review: https://github.com/Raku/setup-raku/commit/c2ce07a600 [11:46] timo: indeed [11:47] ¦ setup-raku: 47fd7fe884 | (Shoichi Kaji)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 6 files [11:47] ¦ setup-raku: Update npm dependencies (#55) [11:47] ¦ setup-raku: [11:47] ¦ setup-raku: * Update npm dependencies [11:47] ¦ setup-raku: [11:47] ¦ setup-raku: Co-authored-by: Codex <267193182+codex@users.noreply.github.com> [11:47] ¦ setup-raku: [11:47] ¦ setup-raku: * Tighten TypeScript configuration [11:47] ¦ setup-raku: <…commit message has 6 more lines…> [11:47] ¦ setup-raku: review: https://github.com/Raku/setup-raku/commit/47fd7fe884 [11:49] ¦ setup-raku: a8b3750352 | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | CHANGELOG.md [11:49] ¦ setup-raku: v1.12.0 [11:49] ¦ setup-raku: review: https://github.com/Raku/setup-raku/commit/a8b3750352 [11:51] anything we can do? [11:51] I've pinged tonyo but no success yet :-( [11:52] I guess we give it another 24 hours before starting to think about alternatives [11:56] for right now i can also still upload JSON::Fast's latest version to cpan [11:57] ¦ setup-raku: b6140a4d15 | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | README.md [11:57] ¦ setup-raku: use actions/checkout@v6 in README [11:57] ¦ setup-raku: review: https://github.com/Raku/setup-raku/commit/b6140a4d15 [12:05] timo: we've waited a long time for a JSON::Fast update... we can wait a little longer ? [12:05] tom seemed very upset about the lack of json fast update to fix the deprecation notice the other day [12:12] well.. we're all volunteers [12:13] sometimes people forget that [12:13] .o( I'd do paid moarvm development if there were a willing payer ) [13:28] timo: there's a grant process for that, no? [13:31] it is my understanding that there are no more funds for Raku grants with TPRF [13:31] and the Raku Foundation is not yet in a position to be even thinking about providing grants [13:35] to get more $$$ and more helpers, we need to grow. to grow, we need to attract coders. to attract coders we need a reason to try Raku. DSLs are a reason to use Raku. thus https://slangify.org ;-) [14:24] re funds, I normally donate the equivalent value of my ticket to TPRF, this year I can probs match it and earmark for Raku [14:24] 2026-06-01T21:29:09Z #raku guifa what timezone are you in? [14:24] tonyo: eastern [14:24] guifa, I'll pass your message to tonyo [14:40] *** enyc joined [14:40] *** FritzZaucker joined [14:43] @timo About rakudo/rakudo#6231 You ask about reaching you directly. I am here, but not really familiar with IRC. So not sure this will work all that well, but I am willing to try. Email would also work for me. [14:43] RAKUDO#6231 [open]: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/6231 Crash of Rakudo 2026.05 Linux binary [14:43] oh there you are [14:43] :-) [14:44] cool, if you trust that it's really me, we can just open a DM right here on IRC, I'll open one right now [14:44] I think @lizmat would warn me if you weren't :-) [14:56] *** FritzZaucker left [14:56] *** FritzZaucker joined [15:01] *** FritzZaucker left [15:05] *** FritzZaucker joined [15:17] *** FritzZaucker left [15:17] *** FritzZaucker joined [15:24] *** FritzZaucker left [15:25] *** FritzZaucker joined [15:29] *** FritzZaucker left [16:12] *** djinni` left [16:18] I would :-) [16:23] *** djinni` joined [16:28] *** FritzZaucker joined [16:32] *** FritzZaucker left [17:00] *** FritzZaucker joined [17:07] *** FritzZaucker left [17:18] *** FritzZaucker joined [17:18] *** FritzZaucker left [17:18] *** FritzZaucker joined [17:19] *** FritzZaucker left [17:20] *** FritzZaucker joined [17:30] *** FritzZaucker left [17:30] *** FritzZaucker joined [17:35] *** FritzZaucker left [17:40] *** FritzZaucker joined [17:42] *** FritzZaucker left [17:56] *** FritzZaucker joined [18:00] *** FritzZaucker left [18:41] *** FritzZaucker joined [18:46] *** FritzZaucker left [19:34] *** FritzZaucker joined [20:01] *** FritzZaucker left [20:02] *** FritzZaucker joined [20:08] *** FritzZaucker left [20:08] *** FritzZaucker joined [20:09] https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/6246 [20:09] Syntax for my %h is QuantHash dirties the sentinel set()/ bag() / mix() values [20:13] *** FritzZaucker left [20:15] *** finanalyst joined [20:34] lizmat: so those recent funding announcements were coded as Perl and Raku but are in fact earmarked entirely for Perl? [20:36] I don't know: I have been told that there's no money earmarked for Raku anymore at TPRF [20:37] I'm surprised there is a https://perlfoundation.org/raku-development-fund.html ? [20:38] feels to me that they forgot to take that away? [20:39] *** FritzZaucker joined [20:43] *** FritzZaucker left [21:00] <[Coke]> worth asking the treasurer what the status is. [21:00] <[Coke]> (though with the con coming up soon, I expect she's swamped) [21:01] *** FritzZaucker joined [21:06] *** FritzZaucker left [22:10] *** FritzZaucker joined [22:14] *** FritzZaucker left [23:05] *** sjn left [23:06] *** sjn joined [23:09] *** Geth left [23:22] *** rakkable joined [23:38] *** FritzZaucker joined [23:43] *** FritzZaucker left [23:47] *** sjn left [23:56] *** FritzZaucker joined