[00:01] <[Coke]> I took out the specific memory limitation setting. Box has 32 gigs, 32 cores, and 40GB swap

[00:01] <[Coke]> so it is possible to get some variance where something gets OOMd one run but not the next.

[00:01] <[Coke]> (which is a great reason to automate the redos)

[00:12] <ugexe> does that mean https://github.com/coke/raku-blin-release-results/blob/2026.09/output_Slangify%3A%3ATutorial_zef%3Alibrasteve_0.0.1_0 was oom killed at 2G?

[00:16] <[Coke]> +the swap, but yes.

[00:18] <[Coke]> ok, reran. the redo has 3 failures, all of which are "what module, there's no module"

[00:19] <[Coke]> all 3 were 'No candidates found matching identity:'

[00:19] <[Coke]> trying just those 3...

[00:20] <[Coke]> Actually, can you give me the zef command to download the tar for, e.g. "AI::NLP" ?

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[01:26] <ugexe> zef fetch AI::NLP --debug although that also does the extraction step 

[01:35] <ugexe> if it isnt finding any candidates though that would mean the index file itself is missing them

[01:35] <ugexe> it doesnt even know where to download the .tar.gz file until it finds them in a index

[01:40] <[Coke]> ok, redo of redo of the 3 "can't find this module" all worked.

[01:41] <[Coke]> so, yes, some transient error. :|

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[01:44] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: ugexe++ created pull request #6583: Key precompilation stores to the setting they bind to

[01:44] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/6583

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[02:52] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: ugexe++ created pull request #6584: RakuAST: set the read only mask on produced signatures

[02:52] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/6584

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[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 68129a9ac5 | (Nick Logan)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Answer reductions over a Range of Ints from its endpoints (#6582)

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Previously the reductions of +, min and max took an answer from a Range's

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: endpoints only for a Range that goes on producing values, so a finite one

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: reified and folded every value it holds. A Range producing a run of Ints

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: describes that run completely with its endpoints. The reduction of + over

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: one now takes the answer Range.sum computes from them, where folding a

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: <…commit message has 11 more lines…>

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/68129a9ac5

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 9b19ab39e5 | (Nick Logan)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 3 files

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: RakuAST: set the read only mask on produced signatures (#6584)

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Previously the signature meta-objects this frontend produced left the

[03:56] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: read only bit mask at zero. The invocation dispatcher reads that mask

[03:57] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: to pass read only object arguments outside their Scalar containers, so

[03:57] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: every call on contained arguments recorded a dispatch program that

[03:57] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: passed the container, with an extra value guard and a second container

[03:57] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: <…commit message has 8 more lines…>

[03:57] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/9b19ab39e5

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[08:23] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 754d3dcf09 | (Nick Logan)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | src/core.c/Compiler.rakumod

[08:23] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Key precompilation stores to the setting they bind to

[08:23] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 

[08:23] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Previously the compilation id keying a precompilation store derived

[08:23] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: from the compiler's sources and the frontend compiling the modules,

[08:23] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: while the setting a precompilation binds to also varies by the

[08:23] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: frontend that compiled it and by the version string it bakes in.

[08:23] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Rebuilding the setting with the other frontend, or after a commit

[08:23] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: <…commit message has 9 more lines…>

[08:23] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/754d3dcf09

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[10:13] <lizmat> notable6: weekly

[10:13] <notable6> lizmat, 2 notes: 2026-08-20T13:45:38Z <melezhik.>: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49374503  ;  2026-08-23T04:25:14Z <melezhik.>: https://github.com/ash/rakupp/tree/main/live , sparrow is added to the rakupp live

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[11:30] <lizmat_> notable6: weekly reset

[11:30] <notable6> lizmat_, Moved existing notes to “weekly_2026-08-25T11:30:18Z”

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[11:31] <lizmat> And yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: https://rakudoweekly.blog/2026/08/25/2026-34-yar-by-coke/

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[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: 8984552b65 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/Raku/ast/code.rakumod

[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: RakuAST: fix issue with m:p/foo/ codegenning

[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: 

[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: It appears that is was conflating the functionality of

[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33:   m:p/foo/

[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: with

[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33:   m:p(2)/foo/

[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: 

[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: Fix this by only taking the special "to" codegenning path if the

[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: specified adverb represents True.

[13:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/8984552b65

[13:05] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: lizmat++ created pull request #6585: RakuAST: fix issue with m:p/foo/ codegenning

[13:05] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/6585

[13:59] <patrickb> o/

[13:59] <patrickb> Building moar on an ancient ubuntu fails with https://paste.sr.ht/~patrickb/d00f1d426bab1944c072c6e3fc2915a21480e47f

[14:00] <patrickb> That's probably gcc 5.3.1

[14:00] <patrickb> Aw. Wrong chat..

[14:22] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: d1abb79bbf | (Will Coleda)++ | 2 files

[14:22] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Ensure new announcements use correct donation link

[14:22] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 

[14:22] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: - update most recent announcement link as well.

[14:22] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/d1abb79bbf

[14:37] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: 803c4061a5 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/Raku/ast/code.rakumod

[14:37] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: RakuAST: apply same fix for s:p/foo/bar/

[14:37] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/lizmat-33: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/803c4061a5

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[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 0cb1dd6c49 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | src/Raku/ast/code.rakumod

[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: RakuAST: fix issue with m:p/foo/ and s:p/foo/bar/ codegenning

[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 

[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: It appears that is was conflating the functionality of

[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main:   m:p/foo/

[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: with

[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main:   m:p(2)/foo/

[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 

[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Fix this by only taking the special "to" codegenning paths if the

[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: specified adverb represents True.

[17:36] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/0cb1dd6c49

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: ugexe++ created pull request #6586: RakuAST: report variable trait errors when the argument needs a thunk

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/6586

[18:19] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/coke/donations: 682fbc6bff | (Will Coleda)++ | README.md

[18:19] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/coke/donations: Mention donations on the README

[18:19] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/coke/donations: 

[18:19] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/coke/donations: Near the top but not at the top

[18:19] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/coke/donations: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/682fbc6bff

[18:20] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: coke++ created pull request #6587: Mention donations on the README

[18:20] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/6587

[18:32] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 682fbc6bff | (Will Coleda)++ | README.md

[18:32] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Mention donations on the README

[18:32] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 

[18:32] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Near the top but not at the top

[18:32] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/682fbc6bff

[18:32] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 79c849db00 | (Will Coleda)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | README.md

[18:32] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Merge pull request #6587 from rakudo/coke/donations

[18:32] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 

[18:32] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Mention donations on the README

[18:32] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/79c849db00

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[20:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: ugexe++ created pull request #6588: RakuAST: attach doc blocks to the statement that follows them

[20:04] <Geth> ¦ rakudo: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/6588

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[20:51] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: RakuAST: attach doc blocks to the statement that follows them

[20:51] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 

[20:51] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: * RakuAST: attach doc blocks to the statement that follows them

[20:51] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: 

[20:51] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: Previously a parsed doc block was claimed by the first statement action

[20:51] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: to run after it. Statement actions run innermost first, so a doc block

[20:51] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: preceding a package declaration was claimed by the first statement

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[20:51] <Geth> ¦ rakudo/main: review: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/e8a0c68807

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[21:31] <ab5tract> ugexe: have you considered taking care of this as part of your 6.e work? https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/1235#issuecomment-2940073109

[21:31] <ab5tract> It’s causing issues with the Kotlin port

[21:32] <ab5tract> So it would be cool to nuke this anti-pattern ASAp

[22:03] <lizmat> ab5tract: that would be 6.f stuff, I'd say

[22:06] <ab5tract> I don’t know

[22:06] <ab5tract> Unless 6.f. Is scoped as a 12-18 month mop up

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[22:22] <lizmat> well, I would love to see a yearly language level cycle after 6.e  :-)

[22:46] <ab5tract> that's a nice idea