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[00:18] <leont> MasterDuke: yeah, :$foo was definitely on my list for my upcoming "small raku features I miss in other languages" blog post

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[00:28] <timotimo> javascript has this

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[00:53] <leont> I didn't know that!

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[04:27] <cpan-raku> New module released to CPAN! Algorithm::MinMaxHeap (0.13.5) by 03TITSUKI

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[07:32] <JJMerelo> releasable6: status

[07:32] <releasable6> JJMerelo, Next release in ≈11 hours. There are no known blockers. 143 out of 303 commits logged (⚠ 4 warnings)

[07:32] <releasable6> JJMerelo, Details: https://gist.github.com/d73ba9a84a123e4516dd6d95c264dfe0

[07:32] <JJMerelo> yay!

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[07:51] <Geth> ¦ doc: a493998a6f | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/operators.pod6

[07:51] <Geth> ¦ doc: $. method call syntax shorthand works with meta-methods refs #2632

[07:51] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/a493998a6f

[07:51] <linkable6> Link: https://docs.raku.org/language/operators

[07:51] <linkable6> DOC#2632 [open]: https://github.com/Raku/doc/issues/2632 [Hacktoberfest][RFE][big][docs][good first issue][help wanted][new][⚠ Top Priority ⚠] Checklist for 6.d

[07:52] <JJMerelo> Only 14 to go...

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[09:27] <rustemb> hello!

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[09:58] <grondilu> Hi all.  Is there a new recommendation for the file suffix, instead of .p6 ?

[09:58] <Altai-man_> grondilu, yes, see https://github.com/Raku/problem-solving/blob/master/solutions/language/Path-to-Raku.md#extensions

[10:01] <grondilu> ok

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[10:59] <JJMerelo> m: say "foo bar" ~~ /^^ "bar" /

[10:59] <camelia> rakudo-moar e231558c4: OUTPUT: «Nil␤»

[10:59] <JJMerelo> m: say "foo bar" ~~ /^^ \s* "bar" /

[10:59] <camelia> rakudo-moar e231558c4: OUTPUT: «Nil␤»

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[12:08] <Geth> ¦ doc: gfldex++ created pull request #3487: Roles are not closures but traps

[12:08] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/pull/3487

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[12:22] <Xliff> \o

[12:31] <gfldex> lolibloggedalittle: https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2020/06/20/it-felt-like-a-bug/

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[12:42] <Xliff> Where are the latest docs on %?RESOURCES

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[12:46] <Xliff> Looks like %?RESOURCES is not working as described here: https://docs.raku.org/language/modules

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[14:02] <Geth> ¦ doc/protecc-example: 89063e1ea2 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Lock/Async.pod6

[14:02] <Geth> ¦ doc/protecc-example: Add a more realistic Lock::Async.protect example

[14:02] <Geth> ¦ doc/protecc-example: 

[14:02] <Geth> ¦ doc/protecc-example: Closes https://github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3411

[14:02] <Geth> ¦ doc/protecc-example: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/89063e1ea2

[14:04] <Geth> ¦ doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #3488: Add a more realistic Lock::Async.protect example

[14:04] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/pull/3488

[14:09] <Altai-man_> sourceable6, Proc::Async.new('no-such').Bool

[14:09] <sourceable6> Altai-man_, https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/9b9d9f6/src/core.c/Mu.pm6#L105

[14:10] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-proc-bool: 75f93dbb01 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Proc.pod6

[14:10] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-proc-bool: Document Proc.Bool method

[14:10] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-proc-bool: 

[14:10] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-proc-bool: Proc::Async does not override Bool, so closes https://github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3397

[14:10] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-proc-bool: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/75f93dbb01

[14:10] <AlexDaniel`> sourceable6, Proc::Async.new('no-such').Bool()

[14:10] <sourceable6> AlexDaniel`, https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/9b9d9f6/src/core.c/Mu.pm6#L107

[14:11] <Altai-man_> sourceable6, Proc.new('no-such').Bool

[14:11] <sourceable6> Altai-man_, No idea, boss. Can you give me a Code object? Output: Default constructor for 'Proc' only takes named arguments␤  in block <unit> at /tmp/cDLtx4gFeX line 1␤␤

[14:11] <Altai-man_> Hmm.

[14:12] <Altai-man_> Ok, cool.

[14:13] <Geth> ¦ doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #3489: Document Proc.Bool method

[14:13] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/pull/3489

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[15:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: f80067e779 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/traits.pod6

[15:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: Document is-implementation-detail trait

[15:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/f80067e779

[15:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: 14a8a51841 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Code.pod6

[15:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: Document Code.is-implementation-detail method

[15:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/14a8a51841

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[15:02] <Geth> ¦ doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #3490: Document is impl trait

[15:02] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/pull/3490

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[15:23] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-HAS: c0c642bd97 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/nativecall.pod6

[15:23] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-HAS: Index HAS

[15:23] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-HAS: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/c0c642bd97

[15:24] <Geth> ¦ doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #3491: Index HAS

[15:24] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/pull/3491

[15:25] <Geth> ¦ doc: 89063e1ea2 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Lock/Async.pod6

[15:25] <Geth> ¦ doc: Add a more realistic Lock::Async.protect example

[15:25] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[15:25] <Geth> ¦ doc: Closes https://github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3411

[15:25] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/89063e1ea2

[15:25] <Geth> ¦ doc: e69681071d | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Lock/Async.pod6

[15:25] <Geth> ¦ doc: Merge pull request #3488 from Raku/protecc-example

[15:25] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[15:25] <linkable6> Link: https://docs.raku.org/type/Lock::Async

[15:25] <Geth> ¦ doc: Add a more realistic Lock::Async.protect example

[15:25] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/e69681071d

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[15:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: 75f93dbb01 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Proc.pod6

[15:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: Document Proc.Bool method

[15:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[15:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: Proc::Async does not override Bool, so closes https://github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3397

[15:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/75f93dbb01

[15:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: 48e74e076d | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Proc.pod6

[15:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: Merge pull request #3489 from Raku/document-proc-bool

[15:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[15:31] <linkable6> Link: https://docs.raku.org/type/Proc

[15:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: Document Proc.Bool method

[15:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/48e74e076d

[15:34] <Geth> ¦ doc: c0c642bd97 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/nativecall.pod6

[15:34] <Geth> ¦ doc: Index HAS

[15:34] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/c0c642bd97

[15:34] <Geth> ¦ doc: eb7d9147fd | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/nativecall.pod6

[15:34] <Geth> ¦ doc: Merge pull request #3491 from Raku/document-HAS

[15:34] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[15:34] <Geth> ¦ doc: Index HAS

[15:34] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/eb7d9147fd

[15:34] <linkable6> Link: https://docs.raku.org/language/nativecall

[15:37] <sena_kun> bisectable6, say CORE::.keys.grep(* eq "&DYNAMIC")

[15:37] <bisectable6> sena_kun, Will bisect the whole range automagically because no endpoints were provided, hang tight

[15:37] <bisectable6> sena_kun, Output on all releases: https://gist.github.com/e8805264ae33eee0bbf31cfcb6a61d56

[15:37] <bisectable6> sena_kun, Bisecting by output (old=2020.02.1 new=2020.05.1) because on both starting points the exit code is 0

[15:38] <bisectable6> sena_kun, bisect log: https://gist.github.com/47b03c0abe8db09981b9e4b59886afe3

[15:38] <bisectable6> sena_kun, (2020-03-21) https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/0c36feb07d8aed607651be0559a8761389dc69e2

[15:38] <bisectable6> sena_kun, Output on all releases and bisected commits: https://gist.github.com/e6960ef87ecda42978b462e6fc96dc6e

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[15:44] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: 1ea73e3572 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/traits.pod6

[15:44] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: Extend explanation

[15:44] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/1ea73e3572

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[15:45] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: c48e17e7d4 | Altai-man++ | doc/Type/Code.pod6

[15:45] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: Fix grammar

[15:45] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/c48e17e7d4

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[15:52] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-pointy-syntax-anchor: 598e0ce2f8 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/functions.pod6

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-pointy-syntax-anchor: Fix index syntax of pointy block

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-pointy-syntax-anchor: 

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-pointy-syntax-anchor: Previously, the search term and category were reversed, which

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-pointy-syntax-anchor: created resulted in a buggy results displayed to the user on search.

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-pointy-syntax-anchor: Use the correct order.

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-pointy-syntax-anchor: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/598e0ce2f8

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #3492: Fix index syntax of pointy block

[15:52] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/pull/3492

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[15:54] <Geth> ¦ doc: 598e0ce2f8 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/functions.pod6

[15:54] <Geth> ¦ doc: Fix index syntax of pointy block

[15:54] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[15:54] <Geth> ¦ doc: Previously, the search term and category were reversed, which

[15:54] <Geth> ¦ doc: created resulted in a buggy results displayed to the user on search.

[15:54] <Geth> ¦ doc: Use the correct order.

[15:54] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/598e0ce2f8

[15:54] <Geth> ¦ doc: fc7f95cf93 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/functions.pod6

[15:54] <linkable6> Link: https://docs.raku.org/language/functions

[15:54] <Geth> ¦ doc: Merge pull request #3492 from Raku/fix-pointy-syntax-anchor

[15:55] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[15:55] <Geth> ¦ doc: Fix index syntax of pointy block

[15:55] <Geth> ¦ doc: Probably also with #1410

[15:55] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/fc7f95cf93

[15:55] <linkable6> DOC#1410 [open]: https://github.com/Raku/doc/issues/1410 [big][build][docs][search] Standardize search categories

[15:56] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: 6c2b1ad844 | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Code.pod6

[15:56] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: Missing word

[15:56] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/6c2b1ad844

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[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: 4af921d293 | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/control.pod6

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: Fix indexing of proceed/succeed

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: 

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: Previously, there were two separate headers for proceed and succeed,

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: and likely meant to be read as "header + header + content".

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: ALas, on content pages used to display search results, a single pair of "header + content"

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: is delivered, and it is actually read as "header + nothing + header + content".

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: To avoid an empty page for the first header, just merge those two into a single one.

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/4af921d293

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: edca00681f | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/control.pod6

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: Fix indexing of proceed/succeed

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: 

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: Previously, there were two separate headers for proceed and succeed,

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: and likely meant to be read as "header + header + content".

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: Alas, on content pages used to display search results, a single pair of "header + content"

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: is delivered, and it is actually read as "header + nothing + header + content".

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: To avoid an empty page for the first header, just merge those two into a single one.

[16:01] <Geth> ¦ doc/fix-proceed-to-emptiness: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/edca00681f

[16:02] <Geth> ¦ doc: Altai-man++ created pull request #3493: Fix indexing of proceed/succeed

[16:02] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/pull/3493

[16:09] <sena_kun> releasable6, status

[16:09] <releasable6> sena_kun, Next release in ≈2 hours. There are no known blockers. 143 out of 305 commits logged (⚠ 4 warnings)

[16:09] <releasable6> sena_kun, Details: https://gist.github.com/75526ee0476edb561588f76d2c7b034f

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: edca00681f | Altai-man++ | doc/Language/control.pod6

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: Fix indexing of proceed/succeed

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: Previously, there were two separate headers for proceed and succeed,

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: and likely meant to be read as "header + header + content".

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: Alas, on content pages used to display search results, a single pair of "header + content"

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: is delivered, and it is actually read as "header + nothing + header + content".

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: To avoid an empty page for the first header, just merge those two into a single one.

[16:10] <linkable6> Link: https://docs.raku.org/language/control

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/edca00681f

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: 091974ec2b | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/control.pod6

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: Merge pull request #3493 from Raku/fix-proceed-to-emptiness

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: Fix indexing of proceed/succeed

[16:10] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/091974ec2b

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[16:21] <[Coke]> so many doc updates since yseterday!

[16:21] <JJMerelo> Yep, We seem to be in a hackathon...

[16:22] <JJMerelo> Keep them coming...

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[16:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: 858fb1ba70 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/nativecall.pod6

[16:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: Fix comma and indexing

[16:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[16:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: closes #3494

[16:31] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/858fb1ba70

[16:31] <linkable6> Link: https://docs.raku.org/language/nativecall

[16:31] <linkable6> DOC#3494 [closed]: https://github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3494 [docs] xt/space-after-comma.t failing.

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[16:34] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: 2ab502a8cd | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/traits.pod6

[16:34] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: Fix index anchor and example message

[16:34] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/2ab502a8cd

[16:36] <[Coke]> JJMerelo: getting several aspell test failures right now, all due to Pod::Cache. will look into ripping that out and replacing with the ecosystem version.

[16:36] <[Coke]> ... I know it won't necessarily fix it, but as long as I'm stuck anywya...

[16:36] <JJMerelo> [Coke] not plug-in compatible, I'm afraid...

[16:36] <JJMerelo> You mean Pod::To::Cached, right?

[16:37] <JJMerelo> And Pod::To::Cached is about to be replaced too, anyway...

[16:38] <[Coke]> does the final replacement have a repo yet? Can do the work in a branch.

[16:38] <Geth> ¦ doc: db90daa7b7 | Coke++ | doc/Type/Lock/Async.pod6

[16:38] <Geth> ¦ doc: Fix example compilation

[16:38] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/db90daa7b7

[16:38] <linkable6> Link: https://docs.raku.org/type/Lock::Async

[16:39] <JJMerelo> [Coke] https://github.com/JJ/raku-cache-pod It's very much a work in (not-a-lot-of) progress

[16:39] <sena_kun> [Coke], I would suggest to just skip the second example, because in some cases it will give you a segv for real.

[16:40] <[Coke]> sena_kun: ?

[16:41] <[Coke]> we're not running the code, we're basically doing "-c" on it.

[16:42] <[Coke]> JJMerelo: so, I'm stuck, then? ok. I'll leave that alone for now. :(

[16:42] <sena_kun> Oh, you're right.

[16:42] <sena_kun> [Coke], sorry for the noise, it was so long ago I worked on this.

[16:43] <[Coke]> does raku have anything like https://metacpan.org/pod/File::Flock in the ecosystem?

[16:43] <JJMerelo> [Coke] we will welcome any help... Also Richard Hainsworth is giving it a go...

[16:43] <[Coke]> sena_kun: no worries!

[16:44] <JJMerelo> [Coke] I think it's part of the butterfly project, at least the underlying system support?

[16:44] <[Coke]> JJMerelo: Don't want to get sucked into the twisty path of reimplementing, sorry.

[16:45] <JJMerelo> [Coke] yeah, I can empatize with that. Or equivelent and right spelling of the word.

[16:45] <JJMerelo> s/equivelent/equivalent/

[16:45] <[Coke]> butterfly project: url? (don't see flock in the module list)

[16:46] <[Coke]> if it's lizmat's work, I'd expect that one to be in the modules list.

[16:46] <sena_kun> m: IO::Path::Parts.say;

[16:46] <camelia> rakudo-moar 9b9d9f64e: OUTPUT: «(Parts)␤»

[16:47] <JJMerelo> [Coke] https://modules.raku.org/dist/P5built-ins:cpan:ELIZABETH Not sure it includes flock, but it might.

[16:47] <JJMerelo> [Coke] well... no, it does not.

[16:48] <JJMerelo> [Coke] https://docs.raku.org/language/5to6-perlfunc#index-entry-flock_-_perlfunc

[16:49] <[Coke]> yup.

[16:49] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: e4ecde13d6 | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/traits.pod6

[16:49] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: Fix anchor

[16:49] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/e4ecde13d6

[16:50] <[Coke]> I dislike that the "most wanted" project wants me to classify what kind of solution I'm looking for. I just want to add "flock", I don't want to have to decide if it's going to be a nativebinding to c functionality or pure Raku

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[16:50] <sena_kun> It is bitrotted anyway AFAIK.

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[16:51] <[Coke]> sena_kun: https://github.com/perl6/perl6-most-wanted ? there was at least one other repo that said *it* was bitrotted and pointed here.

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[16:52] <sena_kun> Yup. Well...

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[17:00] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: fd355e7c1f | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/traits.pod6

[17:00] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: Fix copy-pasted anchor

[17:00] <Geth> ¦ doc/document-is-impl-trait: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/fd355e7c1f

[17:05] <Geth> ¦ doc: 41181cabea | Altai-man++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files

[17:05] <Geth> ¦ doc: Document is impl trait (#3490)

[17:05] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[17:05] <Geth> ¦ doc: * Document is-implementation-detail trait

[17:05] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[17:05] <Geth> ¦ doc: * Document Code.is-implementation-detail method

[17:05] <Geth> ¦ doc: 

[17:05] <Geth> ¦ doc: * Extend explanation

[17:05] <linkable6> DOC#3490 [closed]: https://github.com/Raku/doc/pull/3490 Document is impl trait

[17:05] <Geth> ¦ doc: <…commit message has 10 more lines…>

[17:05] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/41181cabea

[17:06] <JJMerelo> Altai-man_ ++

[17:06] <Altai-man_> JJMerelo, thanks for your tireless efforts.

[17:07] <JJMerelo> :-)  No problem, my pleasure. Will recompile and deploy right now

[17:09] <Altai-man_> releasable6, status

[17:09] <releasable6> Altai-man_, Next release in ≈1 hour. There are no known blockers. 186 out of 305 commits logged (⚠ 4 warnings)

[17:09] <releasable6> Altai-man_, Details: https://gist.github.com/c8fa08c2ea72d315205faf7f13c8100e

[17:09] <Altai-man_> sigh

[17:09] <JJMerelo> Altai-man_ but no blockers!

[17:10] <JJMerelo> Altai-man_ need any help there?

[17:11] <Altai-man_> True enough. I am still bothered we sacrificed a bit of backward compatibility.

[17:11] <JJMerelo> Just the tiniest bit

[17:12] <Altai-man_> JJMerelo, not with the release. I will need you guidance on docs later, I guess, because I have some long term plans related, but it is too early to tell about it.

[17:12] <Altai-man_> s/tell/talk/

[17:13] <JJMerelo> Altai-man_ at your service. If you give me a sneak peek before my talk on the documentation next Friday, I'd appreciate that.

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[17:29] <lizmat> [Coke] JJMerelo in light of events in the past year, *I* am not going to do any work on making it easier for Perl code to be ported to Raku

[17:29] <lizmat> but I will support anyone willing to put the effort into it

[17:29] <JJMerelo> lizmat makes sense

[17:30] <lizmat> I may still "port" CPAN modules to Raku, but I won't be attempting to mimic the same interface

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[17:43] <JJMerelo> lizmat I used them for porting File::Chown to this https://github.com/JJ/raku-sys-chown

[17:43] <JJMerelo> ... which I just realized I didn't push...

[17:43] <lizmat> seems the README.md needs some work?

[17:44] <JJMerelo> That too...

[17:44] <JJMerelo> I didn't release it, apparently.

[17:44] <JJMerelo> Thought I had...

[17:49] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem/JJ-patch-14: 033b57bceb | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list

[17:49] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem/JJ-patch-14: Adds Sys::Chown

[17:49] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem/JJ-patch-14: review: https://github.com/Raku/ecosystem/commit/033b57bceb

[17:49] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: JJ++ created pull request #508: Adds Sys::Chown

[17:49] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/Raku/ecosystem/pull/508

[17:55] <Altai-man_> releasable6, status

[17:55] <releasable6> Altai-man_, Next release in ≈1 hour. There are no known blockers. 245 out of 305 commits logged (⚠ 4 warnings)

[17:55] <releasable6> Altai-man_, Details: https://gist.github.com/8bd7436ac278273e3072678f95e5c0bf

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: 033b57bceb | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: Adds Sys::Chown

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/Raku/ecosystem/commit/033b57bceb

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: ad504c8e15 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: Merge pull request #508 from Raku/JJ-patch-14

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: 

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: Adds Sys::Chown

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: I guess it's OK except for binary deps.

[18:01] <Geth> ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/Raku/ecosystem/commit/ad504c8e15

[18:01] <JJMerelo> Almost there, Altai-man_ !!

[18:02] <Altai-man_> Not even close, the fun is yet to start. :P

[18:03] <JJMerelo> As long as it's -Ofun ...

[18:05] * JJMerelo going afk until tomorrow. It's been an intense afternoon...

[18:05] <Altai-man_> o7

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[18:27] <Altai-man_> releasable6, status

[18:27] <releasable6> Altai-man_, Next release is just a few moments away. There are no known blockers. 273 out of 305 commits logged (⚠ 4 warnings)

[18:27] <releasable6> Altai-man_, Details: https://gist.github.com/0543c1bb174a1ebec03f0b56cd0d8421

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[18:46] <rir> I was just looking on Raku.org  regarding subsets.  That got me to this question:  What is `::`?  I could not find a definition.

[18:49] <lizmat> that depends on the context

[18:49] <lizmat> like Perl, it's the package separator:  Foo::Bar

[18:50] <lizmat> perhaps https://docs.raku.org/language/packages contains the info you're looking for ?

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[19:06] <leont> You mean like «subset :: of Str where 1»?

[19:19] <rir> leont,  yes.  I was trying to use a <<subset Positive of Int where * > -1>> to define a PosInt class.   When a constraint is added, a class that knows its name seems correct. 

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[19:23] <guifa> is there a major performance hit for using name aliases in signatures or is most of that handled by the compiler?

[19:24] <[Coke]> for nativecall, do we have an easy way to get at constants set in C?

[19:24] <[Coke]> ISTR this requires reading the C source and cut and paste at the low-tech end (and a script to do it for you elsewhere)

[19:26] <[Coke]> ah, man page works, for this one at least.

[19:26] <MasterDuke> guifa: i believe there's some performance hit, but i don't think it's too big

[19:27] <guifa> okay.  Mainly I’m wondering about the issue of having verbose vs compact options

[19:27] <guifa> e.g.

[19:27] <guifa> format-number :length<long> but also allowing :len<long>

[19:28] * guifa wishes he could also do :l but…. language and length both start with L haha boo English

[19:28] <guifa> also MasterDuke: if you’re around next week think you could look over my slides for me for my talk?  There’s one in particularl that I’m hoping will make you laugh out loud a bit :-)

[19:29] <MasterDuke> sure

[19:41] <Geth> ¦ doc: ea98b81ac2 | Coke++ | lib/Pod/Cache.pm6

[19:41] <Geth> ¦ doc: Add exclusive locking

[19:41] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/ea98b81ac2

[19:41] <Geth> ¦ doc: 470ed9c06f | Coke++ | util/update-and-test

[19:41] <Geth> ¦ doc: Pod::Cache should be safe now

[19:41] <Geth> ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/Raku/doc/commit/470ed9c06f

[19:43] <[Coke]> ^^ so that worked on mac fine.

[19:57] <lizmat> guifa: I think :foo(:bar) is pretty much optimized, but anything beyond that is icky

[19:58] <guifa> lizmat++

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[20:00] <guifa> I can’t wait to be able to use RakuAST though.  For my string formatters it’ll probably speed things up immensely and not require any risky EVALs to do so

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