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[10:12] *** parv left [10:12] ugexe: I was hoping to do both :D [10:17] *** epony joined [10:59] *** cgfbee left [11:05] rindolf: I get the impression he mostly moved on from being the Perl/Raku BDFL [11:06] moritz_: ah [11:07] moritz_: what is he up to now? [11:07] rindolf: I don't know. I try not to stalk my heros, and he hasn't come here and told us [11:08] moritz_: stalk? is that what you call "caring about"? [11:08] fine, i'll email him [11:09] rindolf: don't take it like that. moritz_ is not attacking you [11:10] rindolf: if 5 people do it, it's caring. If 2000 do it, it's stalking. I don't consider myself close enough to Larry to be one of 5 [11:10] email has become unreliable though w all the spam and anti-spam [11:10] FWIW, I don't think Larry reads his email [11:10] moritz_: ok [11:10] don't let that stop you though, you have to judge for yourself how close you feel [11:10] moritz_: thanks [11:11] lizmat: that sucks, but i'll try anyway [11:12] rindolf: I was not saying you shouldn't try, I was just saying: don't be disappointed if you do not get a response [11:12] lizmat: ok... [11:15] *** abraxxa left [11:18] *** abraxxa joined [11:19] *** aluaces left [11:19] *** cgfbee joined [11:27] weekly: https://news.perlfoundation.org/post/community-leaders-march-2021 [11:27] lizmat, Noted! (weekly) [11:34] *** parv joined [11:35] lizmat: "Suggestion was made to add a 'donate now' button was made [11:35] " [11:35] :) [11:36] yeah, a Raku Foundation site would need to have that working *properly* [11:39] I was commenting on the repetition of "was made" [11:39] it would appear to be a thinko [11:39] *** Kaeipi joined [11:40] *** Kaiepi left [11:45] *** mowcat joined [12:02] *** frost-lab left [12:04] *** mowcat left [12:37] *** jmerelo left [12:45] *** APic left [12:46] *** APic joined [13:18] Which architectures does Rakudo support? [13:31] not as many as perl i suspect [13:32] *** mahafyi joined [13:33] demostanis[m]: propably the archs where libuv runs [13:39] OOP *and* functional! [13:44] *** APic left [13:51] *** abraxxa left [13:53] *** abraxxa joined [13:53] *** APic joined [14:03] interesting. It appears that there's some turnover in the technical leadership for our sister language, Perl: https://perl.topicbox.com/groups/perl-core/T7a4f1bf9e069641f [14:09] libuv is more about platforms, and less about architectures [14:09] leont: I am schooled now :) [14:09] With architectures, the question is more about on which architectures we can jit [14:12] leont: And which are they? [14:13] right now, just x86. we just on arm, but don't jit there (though that has meant less and less for performance as spesh gets more and more capable) [14:13] *run on arm [14:19] What's spesh? [14:21] *** Sgeo joined [14:23] the moarvm dynamic optimizer that kind of slots inbetween the interpreter and the jit. it optimizes/re-writes the running program based on information it sees, but doesn't generate machine code like the jit does [14:24] jnthn's blog posts are the place to go for more information if curious. https://6guts.wordpress.com/ [14:26] does anyone have an idea about the size of rakudo + moarvm if everything were statically compiled to the extent possible? [14:27] that would be on amd64 [14:32] *** ufobat_ joined [14:35] *** ufobat left [14:39] *** dogbert11 joined [14:42] *** dogbert17 left [14:44] *** tejr left [14:44] *** aluaces joined [14:45] *** tejr joined [14:51] *** stoned75_ joined [14:53] *** parabolize joined [14:54] *** stoned75 left [15:06] PSA: this week's Rakudo Weekly News will most likely be published on Tuesday this week, due to a planning snafu and other stuff happening [15:16] *** mowcat joined [15:27] *** aluaces left [15:36] *** APic left [15:43] *** APic joined [16:05] *** softmoth_ joined [16:12] *** mowcat left [16:14] lizmat, take care! [16:14] yeah, I am... [16:15] just not enough time available due to some unexpected online and offline events [16:16] on top of not having any time after 8pm tonight [16:33] *** El_Che left [16:33] *** El_Che joined [16:33] *** aluaces joined [16:39] *** dakkar left [16:40] vrurg: i need to add some more logging stuff, i'm having trouble replicating the removal problem [16:48] *** simcop2387 left [16:50] *** mahafyi left [17:06] *** reach_satori left [17:07] *** abraxxa left [17:08] *** abraxxa joined [17:11] does the `use trace` pragma not work in modules? It works fine in my .raku files, but doesn't seem to have any effect in a .rakumod file [17:22] I don't think it works with pre-comped files [17:22] maybe add a "no precompilation" or some such ? [17:23] "use trace" will actually codegen the tracing into the bytecode [17:27] *** domidumont left [17:29] *** ufobat_ left [17:47] lizmat++ thanks, that did the trick. [18:04] *** aborazmeh joined [18:09] *** patrickb joined [18:16] *** safinaskar joined [18:19] *** safinaskar left [18:32] *** patrickb left [18:35] *** patrickb joined [18:47] *** APic left [19:02] *** aborazmeh left [19:10] *** guifa joined [19:20] tonyo: but I'm not mistaken about 24hr window, am I? [19:22] *** patrickb left [19:22] *** kini left [19:22] *** softmoth_ left [19:22] *** krkini joined [19:24] *** patrickb joined [19:28] * guifa realized he hadn’t been connected to IRC in a long time. Gives it 25% chance he has a message from tellbot waiting [19:28] 75% right! [19:36] guifa: Someone recently (last 4 days or so) asked about the state of the binary grammar project. [19:37] Ah, yeah, Brad posted a long (and great, as always) comment on the original proposal’s gist [19:37] https://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log/raku?date=2021-04-07#l178 [19:37] Or at least, that’s probably what caused him to go back to look at it at least. [19:39] samebchase: I’m pausing work on binary grammars until RakuAST at the moment — I was able to inline things rather nicely, but while I *could* finish it up with embedded code, normal variable interpolation, etc, all of the work would need to be redone for RakuAST [19:40] samebchase: however, if you’ve got any ideas or feedback for the project in general, definitely take a look at https://gist.github.com/alabamenhu/2fec7a8f51a24091dc1b104a2ae2f04d [19:41] patrickb++ : thanks for heads up! [19:45] *** mowcat joined [19:58] *** softmoth_ joined [20:01] vrurg: you're not. i found the bug and should be fixed now [20:19] *** patrickb left [20:25] tonyo++ [20:28] *** abraxxa left [20:28] *** stoned75_ left [20:30] *** abraxxa joined [20:31] *** reach_satori joined [20:31] *** stoned75 joined [20:36] *** b2gills left [20:36] *** b2gills joined [20:42] *** araujo joined [20:52] *** tejr left [20:53] *** tejr joined [20:56] if you want i can remove that manually vrurg - not sure how critical it is [20:57] tonyo: btw, did you see https://github.com/tony-o/perl6-slang-sql/pull/10? [21:00] tonyo: not critical. Somehow release tarball included a file from the previous release. Don't think anybody would use it as I published the next release already. [21:02] <[Coke]> Anyone interested in working on a .NET backend for nqp? Every time I start looking at it I get distracted, or wonder "how the hell can I...". Having someone else to chat with would help both ways. 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