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If so: hero [06:57] yea [06:57] hero then [06:57] well, i'm not writing a module for it but i'm making a tut [06:57] that could easily be a module (i guess) [06:58] idd [06:58] I have some experience with the server side [07:05] *** greppable6 joined [07:05] *** releasable6 joined [07:07] *** unicodable6 joined [07:20] *** Sgeo_ joined [07:21] *** Sgeo left [07:24] *** jjido joined [07:50] *** sftp joined [07:57] *** sftp left [07:57] *** sftp_ joined [07:57] *** sftp_ is now known as sftp [08:06] *** linkable6 joined [08:06] *** shareable6 joined [08:34] *** Sgeo_ left [09:02] *** jjido left [09:07] *** statisfiable6 joined [09:08] *** Altai-man joined [09:12] *** Altai-man_ joined [09:15] *** Altai-man left [09:29] *** jjido joined [09:34] *** Altai-man joined [09:36] *** Altai-man_ left [09:36] *** Altai-man_ joined [09:39] *** Altai-man left [09:47] *** jjido left [09:53] *** Altai-man_ left [10:06] *** coverable6 joined [10:07] *** abraxxa-home joined [10:07] *** lichtkind joined [10:36] ¦ ecosystem: 652aee61f3 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list [10:36] ¦ ecosystem: Remove JSON::JWT [10:36] ¦ ecosystem: [10:36] ¦ ecosystem: It now lives in the zef ecosystem [10:36] ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/Raku/ecosystem/commit/652aee61f3 [10:37] ¦ ecosystem: f00c254b14 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list [10:37] ¦ ecosystem: Freeze DateTime::Format [10:37] ¦ ecosystem: [10:37] ¦ ecosystem: While we move it to the zef ecosystem [10:37] ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/Raku/ecosystem/commit/f00c254b14 [11:07] *** linkable6 left [11:07] *** evalable6 left [11:09] *** evalable6 joined [11:49] ¦ ecosystem: 4c8f712ade | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list [11:49] ¦ ecosystem: Freeze App::Nopaste [11:49] ¦ ecosystem: [11:49] ¦ ecosystem: While we're moving it to the zef ecosystem [11:49] ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/Raku/ecosystem/commit/4c8f712ade [11:57] *** Darkcoal joined [12:07] *** reportable6 left [12:13] *** Darkcoal left [12:15] *** Darkcoal joined [12:20] *** Darkcoal left [12:21] *** Darkcoal joined [12:34] @lizmat Thank you for your quick response on my Acme::Text::UpsideDown bug report. Gathering corresponding symbol pairs is not that easy… [12:34] To me at least … [12:37] Yeah... it's pretty messy...perhaps the "uw" script installed by uniname-words can help ? [12:38] glad to have someone else do that :-) [13:02] @lizmat Yes, I did look at uniname-words few weeks/months ago -- vert useful. [13:03] Precisely for the upside-down mappings being messy. [13:03] *"very useful", not "vert useful"... [13:03] :-) [13:08] *** reportable6 joined [13:19] *** frost left [14:07] *** bloatable6 joined [14:28] *** ismustac1 joined [14:34] *** ismustac1 left [15:01] *** abraxxa-home left [15:11] ¦ ecosystem: 734e351eb1 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list [15:11] ¦ ecosystem: Freeze Pastebin::Shadowcat [15:11] ¦ ecosystem: [15:11] ¦ ecosystem: While we move it to the zef ecosystem [15:11] ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/Raku/ecosystem/commit/734e351eb1 [15:19] *** ismustac1 joined [15:23] *** tirnanog joined [15:24] *** ismustachio joined [15:26] *** Sgeo joined [15:27] *** ismustac1 left [15:36] *** ismustachio left [15:46] *** euandreh joined [16:01] *** ismustachio joined [16:07] *** ismustachio left [16:38] *** ismustachio joined [16:39] *** csv joined [16:42] *** ismustachio left [16:45] *** vrurg left [16:52] *** ismustachio joined [16:55] *** vrurg joined [17:07] *** guifa joined [17:24] *** MoC joined [17:32] *** jaguart left [17:35] *** ismustachio left [17:38] *** p6steve joined [17:40] help [17:45] *** jaguart joined [17:45] hi - I recall a comment some time back that someone needs to adopt Inline::Python ... is it being actively maintained? [17:47] nope [17:48] I've tried using it and it just had to copy whole thing and install local version [17:48] with some modifications, like explicit construction/destruction [17:51] *** MoC left [17:52] yes - i have been successful - needs exclude="python3" otherwise ok on 2021.05 [17:52] had to go --force-test on 2022.02 [17:54] (so my workaround has been use 2021.15 or --force-test) [17:54] now I am hitting some "real" issues... [17:55] (ie. real for my project to connect to Python Pandas) [17:57] I am tempted to roll up my sleeves and try and fix myself ... is there any design doc (or "how it works" blogs) out there? [18:02] *** ismustachio joined [18:02] p6steve: no, but I'm pretty sure nine will be helping you if you take this on! [18:06] *** reportable6 left [18:07] @lizmat - I have been tempted to put in for a TPF development grant for a couple of things ... but noted the prerequisite to be a core raku contributor ... would adoption of Inline::Python qualify? [18:07] *** reportable6 joined [18:07] *** ismustachio left [18:08] where is that prerequisite mentioned? [18:08] but yeah, I'd think that an application by you would qualify [18:08] although I can't really say, as I'n not on the Grant Committee anymore [18:09] https://news.perlfoundation.org/post/call_for_grants_jan_2022 [18:09] The applicant must be a contributor to the Raku language specification or one of its implementations. [18:09] The application must be endorsed by one or more people in Raku Steering Council. [18:09] .or [18:11] a. having several prominent Raku modules out there *and* blogging about it, makes you a contributor (whether you like that or not :-) [18:11] b. You are hereby endorsed by me [18:12] I don't know how helpful it will be, but Inline::Python is mostly pyhelper.c and thin wrapper over it, the whole thing is under 1k LOC [18:12] anyway - either way I need to work out if I have the skills as I get closer to the metal ... so I will dig in and try and fix (probably needing some help) and PR back if I get on OK [18:12] "You are hereby endorsed by me" me to! (though feel free to email [email@hidden.address] if you want something other than an IRC log :) ) [18:12] "You are hereby endorsed by me" me to! (though feel free to email rsc@raku.org if you want something other than an IRC log :) ) [18:13] only then will I be able to judge the sensibleness of adoption [18:13] also, I agree that "core contributor" is/should be very broad there, and would cover you [18:13] oh - excellent - thanks! [18:13] both [18:15] *** ismustachio joined [18:38] i should write a grant for doing a module test grid/harness for different oses+rakudo versions [18:41] raku -v [18:42] p6steve: in short, Inline::Python hasn't seen development in probably 5 years, except for a few hours to port it to Python 3. [18:44] p6steve: what it needs is someone looking at Inline::Perl5 and porting that to Inline::Python. Most importantly the way it creates wrapper classes for Perl packages which are a huge part of making integration seamless and for giving decent performance. [18:44] @nine yes, I remember seeing that comment too in the past [18:44] Inline::Perl5 probably looks quite large in comparison, but that's because for performance reasons there's a lot of duplicated code (e.g. a generic way to call methods and then special ways for methods with 0, 1 and 2 arguments) [18:48] hmmm - 8.8k vs. 2.1k ;-) [18:49] (using githib gloc to count total lines) [18:51] @nine - I think the best start anyway is for me to fix my problem and PR it on the current base since i would need to learn how the current one works before i woul dbe able to consider a porting effort [19:00] *** lichtkind left [19:27] *** ismustachio left [19:55] *** squashable6 left [19:58] *** squashable6 joined [20:09] *** linkable6 joined [20:12] *** ismustachio joined [20:16] *** ismustachio left [20:29] *** xinming left [20:29] *** xinming joined [21:02] *** ismustachio joined [21:07] *** ismustachio left [21:10] *** sena_kun joined [21:17] *** discord-raku-bot left [21:18] *** discord-raku-bot joined [21:22] *** discord-raku-bot left [21:22] *** discord-raku-bot joined [21:26] *** discord-raku-bot left [21:27] *** discord-raku-bot joined [22:25] *** ismustachio joined [22:40] *** ismustachio left [22:42] *** jjido joined [22:52] *** csv left [22:52] * guifa has held off on applying for grants for the same reason [22:54] *** guifa left [23:06] *** ismustachio joined [23:11] *** ismustachio left [23:14] *** guifa joined [23:17] *** xinming left [23:22] *** xinming joined [23:26] *** xinming left [23:53] *** [Coke] left [23:59] *** Darkcoal left