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fez uploading executables (issue # 61 there). Will migrate Collection-Raku-Documentation to fez when the issue is resolved [10:23] ¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/Raku/ecosystem/commit/eb38ec02d2 [10:27] *** linkable6 left [10:27] *** evalable6 left [10:27] *** linkable6 joined [10:28] *** evalable6 joined [11:28] *** reportable6 left [11:28] *** evalable6 left [11:29] *** evalable6 joined [11:29] *** reportable6 joined [11:29] *** Sgeo left [11:33] *** sena_kun left [11:34] *** sena_kun joined [11:48] Apparently I have just today to come up with a presentation for rakucon, so I guess that's a no (unless people want a rant on all the things I don't like about Raku in 2022, but I doubt you want that negativity) [11:48] *** habere-et-disper joined [11:52] How to declare a hash with its inverse? This seems verbose: [11:52] m: ('a'..'z', 0..25).flat Z=> (0..25, 'a'..'z').flat [11:52] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «Potential difficulties:␤ Useless use of Z=> in sink context␤ at :1␤ ------> ('a'..'z', 0..25).flat ⏏Z=> (0..25, 'a'..'z').flat␤» [11:52] hey habere-et-disper, you have a message: https://gist.github.com/c1e697f057d819d215fee96ed65d27c3 [11:53] *** kolofon joined [12:02] Thank you @tellable6. I'm trying to get an exhaustive list of uncomposed operators to create test cases for typeface ligature support. [12:02] habere-et-disper, It's my pleasure! [12:08] *** reportable6 left [12:10] *** reportable6 joined [12:15] *** kolofon left [12:15] *** habere-et-disper left [12:29] *** sena_kun left [12:30] *** sena_kun joined [13:22] Is there a way to have a foo() where foo($x) would return 'x', that is, the name of the variable? [13:30] *** evalable6 left [13:30] *** linkable6 left [13:30] *** linkable6 joined [13:32] *** evalable6 joined [13:33] (Maybe with macros?) [14:12] m: sub a(\a) { dd a.VAR.name }; my $b = 42; a $b [14:12] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «"\$b"␤» [14:12] lucs ^^ [14:18] m: sub a(\a) { dd a.VAR.name }; my $b = 42; a 666 [14:18] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «No such method 'name' for invocant of type 'Int'. Did you mean any of␤these: 'Num', 'are', 'base', 'none', 'note', 'take'?␤ in sub a at line 1␤ in block at line 1␤␤» [14:19] m: sub a(\a) { dd try a.VAR.name }; my $b = 42; a $b; a 666 [14:19] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «"\$b"␤Nil␤» [14:23] lizmat: Thanks. (Damn, raku is fantastic.) [14:23] leont: I'd definitely be curious, lol [14:24] leont: please, do do a presentation! If you must, on the things that you don't like :-) [14:32] *** linkable6 left [14:32] *** evalable6 left [14:34] *** evalable6 joined [14:35] *** linkable6 joined [14:48] @lizmat I think you answered a question I was planning to ask... [14:49] what question? [14:57] <@297037173541175296> About a certain article I am working on. I will finish it (to a point) and then send you the link. [14:58] 🥳 [15:01] leont: sometimes what's not good can be just as enlightening as what's good [15:34] *** simcop2387 left [15:34] *** perlbot left [15:35] *** simcop2387 joined [15:35] *** andm left [15:37] *** simcop2387 left [15:38] *** sena_kun left [15:41] *** perlbot joined [15:45] *** simcop2387 joined [15:48] *** sena_kun joined [16:19] I feel like there should be a less hacky way to get your own scope for a dynamic variable, but also keep the value it has if it's already been set [16:19] basically akin to lexical `temp` [16:20] Right now the only solution I have is my $*foo = CALLERS::<$*foo> // default-value; [16:25] m: my $*A = 42; sub a() { temp $*A; say $*A; $*A = 666; say $*A }; a [16:25] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «42␤666␤» [16:25] guifa_ ^^ why not use temp ? [16:26] weird [16:26] I was getting an error saying no such in scope [16:26] oh wait [16:26] sub a() { temp $*A; say $*A; $*A = 666; say $*A }; my $*A = 42; a; say $*A [16:26] guifa_, rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «42␤666␤42␤» [16:26] huh [16:27] did something change with dynamic handling? [16:27] m: sub a () { temp $*A; say $*A // 5 }; a [16:27] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «Dynamic variable $*A not found␤ in sub a at line 1␤ in block at line 1␤␤» [16:27] ^^ [16:28] m: say $*A [16:28] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «Dynamic variable $*A not found␤ in block at line 1␤␤» [16:28] if there is none, you'll get a Failure [16:28] m: dd $*A [16:28] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «Failure.new(exception => X::Dynamic::NotFound.new(name => "\$*A"), backtrace => Backtrace.new)␤» [16:29] m: m: sub a () { temp $*A }; a [16:29] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «Dynamic variable $*A not found␤ in sub a at line 1␤ in block at line 1␤␤» [16:29] I think it's because I often use the dynamics in an iffy/withy context [16:29] m: m: sub a () { temp $*A // 666 }; a [16:29] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «Dynamic variable $*A not found␤ in sub a at line 1␤ in block at line 1␤␤» [16:29] so the failure works just as well as undefined/falsey [16:29] hmmm [16:29] m: m: sub a () { temp ($*A // 666) }; a [16:29] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «Can only use 'temp' on a container␤ in sub a at line 1␤ in block at line 1␤␤» [16:30] m: m: sub a () { with $*A { temp $*A } }; a [16:30] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: ( no output ) [16:31] basically in my use case I've got my ECMA regex syntax [16:31] m: m: sub a () { temp $*A }; dd a [16:31] rakudo-moar b9c90bc79: OUTPUT: «Dynamic variable $*A not found␤ in sub a at line 1␤ in block at line 1␤␤» [16:31] but then need to handle some of the options [16:32] dynamics are just easier haha [16:32] I guess you need to make sure you have a $*A at the outermost scope to prevent the Failure of blowing up in temp [16:33] the my $*A = CALLERS::<$*A>; actually works really well, it just feels...hacky [16:33] But I'm also just trying to finish making it work [16:33] You know me, when I get done, I'll refactor it about 2-3x including at least one total rewrite [16:34] And then when RakuAST comes along, I'll rinse and repeat hahaha [16:35] * guifa_ definitely understands now why the regex options go in front, and not after, though. Allows for the regex to be created much more simply in a single pass [16:48] *** linkable6 left [16:48] *** evalable6 left [16:49] *** linkable6 joined [16:50] *** evalable6 joined [16:50] what is the prerequisite of successfully uploading a module to zef? [16:51] what happened to me is that I updated the code and sent fez upload, it said that I "did it", no email about failure or anything [16:51] but yeah, it wouldn't show up even after half a day, that's a little suspicious [16:51] I didn't commit and push to git though [16:51] could that have been the problem? [17:36] *** Maylay left [17:43] *** Xliff joined [17:44] *** linkable6 left [17:44] *** Maylay joined [17:44] *** linkable6 joined [17:47] With fez you upload a tar-ball. If that is missing, you might have missed a vital step. Do you got a proper META6.json-file? [17:48] yes [18:09] *** reportable6 left [18:12] *** reportable6 joined [18:52] *** Sgeo joined [19:22] *** kolofon joined [19:47] *** kolofon left [20:41] *** sena_kun left [20:42] *** sena_kun joined [20:45] *** habere-et-disper joined [21:10] *** sena_kun left [21:38] *** nort left [22:33] *** nort joined [22:40] *** eseyman left [23:18] *** lichtkind left [23:34] *** nort left [23:35] *** nort joined [23:58] <[Coke]> (alpha sort on docs table) bug, reported, already fixed in new UI coming "soon"