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I don't like the eval approach, But I feel it probably the only way to do so. [10:03] *** jpn joined [10:06] What does "customized array string" mean? [10:08] *** jpn left [10:14] @xinming For the CLI scripts of “Text::Plot” I do ad hoc parsing of the “customized arrays”. I.e. strings specifying lists of points. [10:15] *** NemokoschKiwi joined [10:23] *** NemokoschKiwi left [10:24] *** vrurg_ joined [10:26] *** vrurg left [10:36] *** siavash left [11:36] *** linkable6 left [11:36] *** evalable6 left [11:39] *** linkable6 joined [11:39] *** evalable6 joined [11:51] *** jpn joined [11:52] *** jpn joined [11:55] nemokosch, flat array can be handled with simple string split with delimiter, But multi dimentional array is hard to do in this case [11:55] antononcube thanks [11:57] *** jpn left [12:00] *** reportable6 left [12:03] *** reportable6 joined [12:48] *** jpn joined [12:53] *** jpn left [12:54] yeah well, you could parse it recursively [12:54] depends on how formal your input is [12:55] if it has some simple formalism, then maybe it's still better to parse it than to EVAL it; if it really is some arbitrary Raku content then obviously you can't beat EVAL [13:19] @xinming I thinking this might be a good use case for "Text::SubParsers" -- I face similar problems when dealing LLM outputs. (I strategically do what @nemokosch outlined above.) [13:33] *** razetime left [13:43] *** jpn joined [13:46] *** sena_kun left [13:47] *** sena_kun joined [13:51] *** jpn left [13:59] *** Matthew|m left [14:04] *** Altai-man joined [14:05] *** Geth left [14:07] *** sena_kun left [14:11] I would like to get my blog added to planet.raku.org ... seems that Roman Baumer is listed as the contact. Does he ever stop by here? By what name? [14:11] librasteve what's the RSS feed URL ? [14:12] planet.raku.org/atom.xml [14:13] no, I mean of your blog :-) [14:13] rakujourney.wordpress.com [14:13] lol [14:14] gimme a o [14:14] mo [14:22] ok, updated... should be live in an hour or so [14:31] pretty sure Roman Baumer stopped being the contact but who is it then [14:32] I put myself in for now [14:33] *** NemokoschKiwi joined [14:36] *** Tirifto_ left [14:39] *** Tirifto joined [14:40] *** Tirifto left [14:41] *** Tirifto joined [14:54] *** RakuIRCLogger left [14:54] *** Geth joined [14:54] *** RakuIRCLogger joined [14:58] *** RakuIRCLogger left [14:58] *** RakuIRCLogger joined [14:59] :q1 [15:30] librasteve you're in! [15:34] *** jpn joined [15:39] *** jpn left [16:12] nemokosch, I know we can have EVAl, But that's the last option to choose. [16:12] antononcube, thanks. [16:13] not sure why you said that though [16:13] nemokosch, EVAL can run all things in the script. [16:14] I know but why are you saying this? Why is this your takeaway? [16:15] the script will probably run with another user. [16:27] okay, I guess I'll never know why you said this 😄 [16:28] @lizmat Please include https://rakuforprediction.wordpress.com !!! 🙂 [16:29] antononcube will do [16:30] ¦ planet.raku.org: 2ac1bacf72 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | perlanetrc [16:30] ¦ planet.raku.org: Add Anton Antonov [16:30] ¦ planet.raku.org: review: https://github.com/Raku/planet.raku.org/commit/2ac1bacf72 [16:30] should be live in about an houre [16:30] *hour [16:33] @lizmat Thanks! [16:39] *** linkable6 left [16:39] *** evalable6 left [16:40] *** evalable6 joined [16:41] *** linkable6 joined [16:45] say Foo explodes at compile time but say Foo::Bar only explodes at runtime [16:45] these are such demotivating nonsensical things [16:46] even say Foo::{'Bar'} or say Foo:: will blow up at compile time [16:46] but the one that looks the least like an operation, makes it to runtime [17:09] *** jpn joined [17:12] *** rf joined [17:14] *** jpn left [17:22] ¦ planet.raku.org: dc4a563cea | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | perlanetrc [17:22] ¦ planet.raku.org: Arhg, messed up Anton Antonov's feed URL [17:22] ¦ planet.raku.org: review: https://github.com/Raku/planet.raku.org/commit/dc4a563cea [17:22] antononcube sorry, will take another hour :-( [17:40] *** NemokoschKiwi left [18:00] *** reportable6 left [18:02] *** reportable6 joined [19:02] *** evalable6 left [19:03] *** evalable6 joined [19:12] What library is recommended for SHA1? [19:17] m: sub sha1($str) { (CompUnit::Repository::Distribution but role :: { method Str { $str } }).id }; say sha1("abc") [19:17] rakudo-moar 1d100f8e7: OUTPUT: «A9993E364706816ABA3E25717850C26C9CD0D89D␤» [19:17] just use nqp::sha1 by abusing other actual public apis! [19:18] Is there a ubuntu repo for newest rakudo compiler? [19:19] I'm using gentoo, so I compile each time with new release, But another machine I manage which is ubuntu. [19:19] ugexe nice! [19:19] So, looking for a lazyman's way [19:19] Rakubrew [19:19] the built-in raku is 2019.12 [19:19] Is your best friend [19:20] Thanks, will check that, I never know that [19:21] *** jpn joined [19:21] ugexe do you know how that performs vs something like Digest::SHA1 native or Digest? [19:22] I've seen that NQP is unearthly fast sometimes [19:22] i was only joking [19:23] Lol. I know just pondering [19:23] nqp::sha1 is probably fairly optimized [19:24] I'm adding web-sockets to Humming-Bird and you have to do a dance of SHA1 -> Base64 + Magic string to enable comms, that's why this came up [19:29] *** justache is now known as reddit-boat [19:29] *** reddit-boat is now known as justache [19:31] *** ab5tract joined [19:39] *** jpn left [19:42] *** jpn joined [19:47] *** jpn left [19:56] *** rf left [20:06] *** ab5tract left [20:07] brilliant - thanks! [20:09] ++ [20:14] *** teatwo joined [20:17] *** teatime left [20:21] *** Sgeo joined [20:24] *** teatwo left [20:24] *** teatwo joined [20:26] *** rf joined [20:47] *** ab5tract joined [21:17] *** ab5tract left [21:19] xinming: https://github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg [21:25] for all the vim users: https://groups.google.com/g/vim_announce/c/tWahca9zkt4 [21:27] *** rf left [21:29] I'm blanking -- is there syntactic relief for passing on an optional named argument *only if it was defined*? In other words, something to clean up the inner call of `method a(:$optional = True) { dd $optional }; method b(:$some, :$optional, :$args) { self.a(|(:$optional if $optional.defined)) }` [21:31] *** wafflus joined [21:31] :optional($_) with $optional [21:31] ? [21:32] Hmmm [21:32] Will that avoid having to wrap in |() as well? [21:33] no, don't think so [21:33] Gah, that's annoying. [21:33] (Although thanks for the idea, lizmat++) [21:34] I guess I'm wanting something like a `:?$optional` syntax [21:34] the other idea, if there are multiple cases like this, is to set up a hash, and than flatten the hash into the arguments [21:34] lizmat: Yeah, I do that in a couple places. 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