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[08:52] <disbot2> <librasteve> weekly: hug-bot

[08:52] <notable6> librasteve, Noted! (weekly)

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[12:39] <disbot2> <antononcube> With the newest rakudo versions I am getting these messages from "JSON::Fast":  Method perl (from Mu) seen at:   SETTING::src/core.c/core_epilogue.rakumod, line 197   /Users/me/.rakubrew/versions/moar-2026.03/share/perl6/site/sources/F13CDD097310A0775131666979B65ADF692574DD (JSON::Fast), line 699 Please use raku instead.  I plan to further complain with a GitHub issue. Meanwhile, is there anyway to suppress that message?

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[12:40] <disbot2> <antononcube> Agh, @Coke already did file an issue...

[12:52] <lizmat> I guess timo will need to do JSON::Fast release, as the fix is already in

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[13:07] <lizmat> antononcube: as to surpressing this message: set the RAKUDO_NO_DEPRECATIONS environment variable

[13:09] <lizmat> m: sub foo() is DEPRECATED("bar") { dd }; foo

[13:09] <evalable6> lizmat, rakudo-moar b18dd713a: OUTPUT: «sub+{is-deprecated} foo()␤Saw 1 occurrence of d…»

[13:09] <evalable6> lizmat, Full output: https://gist.github.com/263ea1b69ef81f7dcfc65426219d716a

[13:09] <lizmat> m: %*ENV<RAKUDO_NO_DEPRECATIONS>=1; sub foo() is DEPRECATED("bar") { dd }; foo

[13:09] <evalable6> lizmat, rakudo-moar b18dd713a: OUTPUT: «sub+{is-deprecated} foo()␤»

[13:10] <disbot2> <antononcube> Ok, that is nice.

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[17:54] <apogee_ntv> Just pushed a bunch of packages:

[17:55] <apogee_ntv> - https://raku.land/zef:apogee/CRoaring - Wrapper around CRoaring (roaring bitmaps)

[17:55] <apogee_ntv> - https://raku.land/zef:apogee/JSONL - JSON Lines convenience methods

[17:55] <apogee_ntv> Rest aren't on Raku.land yet

[17:55] <apogee_ntv> But will be:

[17:56] <apogee_ntv> - Roaring::Tags - full tag system for document lookup using roaring bitmaps (single digit ms union/intersect/negate with grammar-based query language)

[17:57] <apogee_ntv> - LLM::Data::(Inference|Pipeline|ContentTag) - dataset building stuff so you can generate synthetic datasets

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[18:29] <SmokeMachine> !karma

[18:29] <sourcing-bot> SmokeMachine has 1 karma

[18:30] <sjn> !karma

[18:30] <sourcing-bot> sjn has 0 karma

[18:30] <sjn> yay!

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[18:31] <SmokeMachine> Sorry for adding the bot here again... but I'd like the opinion from other people about Sourcing and this bot is done using it... Here is an explanations of what it's doing: https://fco.github.io/Sourcing-2/guides/irc-bot.html (ok, it's over complicated, but the idea was to test the module... :) )

[18:31] <SmokeMachine> sjn++

[18:31] <SmokeMachine> !karma sjn

[18:31] <sourcing-bot> sjn has 1 karma

[18:35] <timo> the flow chart is really hard to read and it doesn't get bigger when i zoom in past a certain point which is still way too small :)

[18:40] <lizmat> SmokeMachine: any well-behaved bot with clear functionality is fine, I'd say?

[18:47] <SmokeMachine> timo: is it better now?

[18:49] <timo> looks better, yeah. when i drag the diagram around, it at the same time tries to do text selection :D

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[18:49] <SmokeMachine> lizmat: thanks... I won't let it running for now... I just want opinions about Sourcing, at least for now

[18:49] <[Coke]> SmokeMachine: are you going to pull in historical karma?

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[18:49] <[Coke]> what are min/max?

[18:49] <timo> what happens if I change my nickname to a million different nicknames? :D

[18:50] <[Coke]> do pre and postfix ++/-- both work?

[18:50] <SmokeMachine> [Coke]: No... may main intention here was to use Sourcing... projections/aggregations/sagas, etc...

[18:50] <SmokeMachine> ++[Coke]

[18:50] <SmokeMachine> !karma [Coke]

[18:50] <sourcing-bot> [Coke] has 1 karma

[18:51] <SmokeMachine> !alias timo

[18:51] <SmokeMachine> !aliases timo

[18:51] <SmokeMachine> !help

[18:51] <sourcing-bot> Commands: !karma [nick], !aliases [nick], ++nick, --nick, nick=>newnick, !help

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[18:52] <timo> can I get you interested in checking out the IRCv3 features pull request of IRC::Client? you can get a user's registered username with every message there

[18:52] <SmokeMachine> (I have not focused too much on aliases... :( )

[18:52] <timo> ok so just changing my nick doesn't create an alias automatically

[19:03] <sjn> SmokeMachine: yay! does the bot support comments? SmokeMachine++ # for setting up a bot

[19:05] <lizmat> !karma

[19:05] <sourcing-bot> lizmat has 0 karma

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[21:19] <disbot2> <antononcube> Interesting. What do you mean by "Inference" ? "Hallucination" ?

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[23:02] <[Coke]> is there a way in raku to get Punctuation, connector from Pc?

[23:22] <[Coke]> from the 1.0 DB: 00AB;LEFT POINTING GUILLEMET;Ps;0;ON;;;;;N;;;;;

[23:25] <[Coke]> shouldn't "LEFT POINTING GUILLEMET" be in the alias table? https://www.unicode.org/Public/15.1.0/ucd/NameAliases.txt

[23:30] <timo> m: say "\c[CHARACTER TABULATION WITH JUSTIFICATION]" # one of the entries in there seems to work

[23:30] <evalable6> timo, rakudo-moar b18dd713a: OUTPUT: «␦␤»

[23:43] <ugexe> if i understand this llm summary correctly there are some Unicode 1 renames that do not belong in NameAliases.txt: https://gist.github.com/ugexe/ca939926b84718df1ebd85bcbeb62922

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