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Fixed intermittent UB on aarch64 due to stack allocation of variadic arguments. [09:22] patrickb: If you want an example of MacOS being much, much worse at dependency resolution than Windows: https://github.com/m-doughty/Vips-Native/blob/6e446782165cab7d57ce4d0d786403986a658a27/.github/workflows/build-binaries.yml#L183 [09:23] This is what happens when you don't have sibling-first search paths and you try to dynamically open libs. 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[15:22] cool [15:36] post? [15:54] *** Aedil joined [15:56] None yet [16:04] *** merp joined [16:31] I have not heard of Notcurses before, but it seems to be of very niche interest. [16:32] If I can convince it to work with an AI-agent or two, I might be more interested in it. [16:33] My biggest problem is that all videos about Notcurses seem chaotic and incoherent. So, hopefully, the Raku related posts / videos are better. [16:35] *** soverysour joined [16:36] *** dakkar left [17:11] They're going to be working at the C level, I don't know how familiar you are with C but that would make them pretty incoherent. [17:11] The goal with Selkie is to essentially have the framework deal with all of the pain and you just write a declarative TUI application. [17:11] Posted on reddit. [17:12] As for getting it to talk to LLMs I already have a WIP client using LLM::Chat & LLM::Character. 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If I add :err, :out, then $proc.out.close(:slurp).say; (the result of run is in $proc), I get Invocant of method 'close' must be an object instance of type [18:56] <[Coke]> 'IO::Pipe', not a type object of type 'IO::Pipe' [18:57] <[Coke]> .. but If I do a simple test on the command line with something like $*EXECUTABLE, '-e', 'say 3' ... it works. [18:57] <[Coke]> m: my $p = run($*EXECUTABLE, "-e", "say 3", :out); $p.out.slurp(:close).say [18:57] [Coke], rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «3␤␤» [18:57] <[Coke]> ... any ideas why I'm getting that weird type error otherwise? [18:58] <[Coke]> Working off the examples in https://docs.raku.org/type/independent-routines#sub_run , search for "raku is great" [19:05] <[Coke]> OOF [19:05] <[Coke]> I had "run (*$EXECUTABLE" [19:05] <[Coke]> m: my $a = run [19:05] [Coke], rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) Cannot resolve caller run(...); n…» [19:05] [Coke], Full output: https://gist.github.com/fba904ee9db8ab6f22c81f5466b60ce7 [19:05] <[Coke]> m: my $p = run ($*EXECUTABLE, "-e", "say 3", :out); $p.out.slurp(:close).say [19:05] [Coke], rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) 3␤Invocant of method 'slurp' must be an object instance of type␤'IO::Handle', not a type object of type 'IO::Pipe'. Did you forget a␤'.new'?␤ in block at /tmp/9P0GsWSO2n line 1␤␤» [19:06] <[Coke]> there it is. LTA error [19:19] m: my $p = run($*EXECUTABLE, "-e", "say 3", :out); $p.out.slurp.say [19:19] lizmat, rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «3␤␤» [19:20] <[Coke]> Yup, just needed run(), not run () [19:20] the space makes the arguments be a list, in which :out becomes a Positional Pair I guess [19:20] <[Coke]> ... or no parens [19:21] m: my $p = run ("echo","foo",:out); $p.out.slurp.say' [19:21] foo out True [19:21] lizmat, rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) ===SORRY!=== Error while compilin…» [19:21] lizmat, Full output: https://gist.github.com/910fc04e468ee9f2de4b20ad74996225 [19:21] m: my $p = run ("echo","foo",:out); $p.out.slurp.say [19:21] lizmat, rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) foo out␉True␤Invocant of method 'slurp' must be an object instance of type␤'IO::Handle', not a type object of type 'IO::Pipe'. Did you forget a␤'.new'?␤ in block at /tmp/pb3NUUlyf0 line 1␤␤» [19:21] note the foo outTABTrue [19:22] without parens it's ok [19:22] m: my $p = run "echo","foo",:out; $p.out.slurp.say [19:22] lizmat, rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «foo␤␤» [19:23] I think that's a more general gotcha [19:24] at least with routines that have a slurpy [19:24] m: sub a(*@a, *%h) { dd @a, %h }; a("foo", :out) [19:24] lizmat, rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «["foo"]␤{:out}␤» [19:24] m: sub a(*@a, *%h) { dd @a, %h }; a ("foo", :out) [19:24] lizmat, rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «["foo", :out]␤{}␤» [19:25] m: sub a(*@a, *%h) { dd @a, %h }; a "foo", :out [19:25] lizmat, rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «["foo"]␤{:out}␤» [19:43] Which delimiters am I allowed to use for delimiting the here doc terminator? Is that list of allowed terminators showing up anywhere else in the language? [19:45] you mean heredoc or quoting in general [19:46] the heredoc terminator needs to be an identifier [19:46] afaik [19:48] I mean the thing that delimits the terminator. q:to/TERM/ <- the slash in this case [19:49] ' is forbidden [19:49] right, so that's not specific to heredocs [19:49] < is ok [19:49] afaik, anything that you can do with q// [19:49] ah [19:50] got it. Thanks! [19:50] the :to is basically just an adverb that initiates some special grammar handling [19:50] but that's really it [19:57] Whoop! Got it working. Now Rainbow gets that right also. [20:20] *** tester123451 joined [20:21] *** tester123451 left [20:27] *** soverysour joined [20:31] *** soverysour left [21:46] <[Coke]> if I am on windows, and I have a path like "C:\\a\rel\path", and I want only "rel/path"... what is the correct way to do that? I have cheated and feel bad. [21:47] <[Coke]> I have a var with "C:\\a" in it, so I strip off a leading C:\\a and an optional / or \, then subst all \ to / [21:47] <[Coke]> Surely there are methods to do what I want here by converting between IO::Paths. [22:10] m: my $path = "/a/rel/path"; say $path.IO.relative("/a");' [22:10] ugexe, rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) ===SORRY!=== Error while compilin…» [22:10] ugexe, Full output: https://gist.github.com/e7dc74388983939c671a465a168e362e [22:11] m: my $path = "/a/rel/path"; say $path.IO.relative("/a"); [22:11] ugexe, rakudo-moar 2fe33db32: OUTPUT: «rel/path␤» [22:14] <[Coke]> yup, that was a definite miss on my part. [22:26] *** Aedil left [22:40] Just dogfooding Selkie, I built most of a TUI version of Omnifocus (gtd app) in a day, has tags/projects/time logging/repeatable tasks etc. Flagging, forecast view, quick capture. [22:43] Uses an encrypted database by default. [22:44] *** librasteve_ left [23:47] *** kaskal left