[00:03] *** kurahaupo joined [00:37] *** rnddim is now known as ShimmerFairy [01:34] SmokeMachine: Will check in the AM. [01:49] *** kylese left [01:49] *** kylese joined [02:15] *** kylese left [02:15] *** kylese joined [03:03] *** lichtkind__ joined [03:05] *** lichtkind_ left [03:06] *** xkr47 left [04:00] *** lichtkind_ joined [04:03] *** lichtkind__ left [04:31] *** soverysour joined [04:35] *** soverysour left [04:59] *** Aedil joined [05:01] *** abraxxa joined [05:59] ugexe: This is pretty epic! Thank you for tackling RakuAST! [06:11] *** [r4] joined [06:47] *** xkr47 joined [06:59] *** sibl joined [07:08] *** sibl left [07:09] *** ShimmerFairy left [07:10] *** ShimmerFairy joined [07:21] *** topnep left [07:22] *** topnep joined [07:29] *** soverysour joined [07:34] *** soverysour left [08:17] *** soverysour joined [08:25] *** soverysour left [09:12] SmokeMachine: Merged your PR, looks good. [09:16] *** soverysour joined [09:21] *** soverysour left [09:22] Released as 0.1.2 [09:29] *** soverysour joined [09:29] *** soverysour left [09:29] *** soverysour joined [09:38] *** soverysour left [09:40] *** soverysour joined [09:40] *** soverysour left [09:40] *** soverysour joined [09:56] *** soverysour left [10:02] *** soverysour joined [10:09] *** soverysour left [10:57] *** polettix joined [10:59] *** polettix left [11:22] *** simcop2387 left [11:42] *** annamalai left [11:43] *** annamalai joined [12:03] *** simcop2387 joined [12:06] *** simcop2387 left [13:01] apogee_ntv: I completely forgot you asked me for some documentation… should I still do that? My English is not very good, so I’m not sure if let me do that is a good idea. But I may be able to do that asking it for an llm. [13:05] *** Guest17 joined [13:05] hello world... [13:06] Hi Guest17 [13:08] i'm using perl for a long time and i'm studying Raku since few weeks... and so.... i'm cautious... what are u're feeling about it ? [13:17] apogee_ntv: I’m thinking on adding `is resource` and `is prompt` to the DSL, what do you think? I had a plan to write a MCP module/framework before, but now I think your’s more interesting… but if you’d like to see how I was seeing that on that time: https://dev.to/fco/introducing-mcp-a-protocol-for-modular-ai-assistants-and-rakus-potential-19gp [13:19] Guest17: I'm the wrong person to ask: I think Raku is the biggest thing since powdered milk :-) [13:21] yes i'lm think to it's very powerfool but very tricky too !! maybe fun or maybe not [13:22] with great power comes great responsibility :-) [13:24] SmokeMachine: I'll get Claude to update the docs when I remember, happy to see more extensions to the DSL, ideally groups too? [13:24] yes Larry is a funny guy and very so smart. I think Raku is a tribute to The Monthy Python.... [13:28] fwiw, Larry thought of Perl vs Raku more of as The Hobbit vs Lord Of The Rings :-) [13:32] it's true ! i think so [13:34] apogee_ntv: yes, I’m still trying to find a good way to add groups to the DSL. [13:35] but what about operators who don't live on the keyboard ? or the ability to do 10 + VI ?? [13:36] powerfull or just private jokes ? [13:36] maybe both :-) [13:37] anyway, i hope that we are not just 147 people to use raku in the world... [13:38] m: say 10 + VI [13:38] lizmat, rakudo-moar 9dcbc23c9: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/PkTaK9WSEj␤Undeclared name:␤ VI used at line 1␤␤» [13:38] I guess you can't ? [13:38] and re hope, yes, so do I :-) [13:39] *** topnep left [13:42] *** topnep joined [13:46] Guest17: feeling "damn, How can people redesign perl5 and get a much more so powerful programming language." [13:46] ... i'm sure i was read something about that... or maybe not ! [13:51] I think the only thing I miss from perl 5 is sigils matching the type being accessed. [13:52] my $foo = %bar still feels wrong in a visceral way. [13:56] *** soverysour joined [14:01] *** soverysour left [14:03] lizmat : very strange ! my raku can mix roman and arabic numbers !!! i'm astonished ! [14:04] m: say 10 + Ⅵ [14:04] lizmat, rakudo-moar 9dcbc23c9: OUTPUT: «16␤» [14:04] m: say "Ⅵ".uninames [14:04] lizmat, rakudo-moar 9dcbc23c9: OUTPUT: «(ROMAN NUMERAL SIX)␤» [14:04] m: say VI".uninames [14:04] lizmat, rakudo-moar 9dcbc23c9: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) ===SORRY!=== Error while compilin…» [14:04] lizmat, Full output: https://gist.github.com/a1dd3058b6d4d656065cfea1fbc57304 [14:04] m: say "VI".uninames [14:04] lizmat, rakudo-moar 9dcbc23c9: OUTPUT: «(LATIN CAPITAL LETTER V LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I)␤» [14:04] there's a difference [14:05] if the unicode standard deems a codepoint to have a numerical value, you can use it as a number in Raku [14:05] m: say ⅿ [14:05] lizmat, rakudo-moar 9dcbc23c9: OUTPUT: «1000␤» [14:05] m: say m [14:05] lizmat, rakudo-moar 9dcbc23c9: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/Kcs2wfAzbA␤Undeclared routine:␤ m used at line 1␤␤» [14:06] m: say "ⅿ".uninames [14:06] lizmat, rakudo-moar 9dcbc23c9: OUTPUT: «(SMALL ROMAN NUMERAL ONE THOUSAND)␤» [14:07] anyway.... very usefull maybe.... if you're a centurion and want to engrave stone tablet with a raku code.... [14:09] well gentelmen... i wish you a happy sunday and i'm go back tu the raku lessons.... [14:10] *** Guest17 left [14:34] *** sibl joined [14:47] *** soverysour joined [14:47] *** soverysour left [14:47] *** soverysour joined [14:52] *** soverysour left [15:03] *** soverysour joined [15:03] *** soverysour left [15:03] *** soverysour joined [15:21] *** soverysour left [15:23] Guest17: happy sunday - in case you are still lurking, bear in mind that only a small fraction of people use English - so being able to add any unicode numerals, even in another char set - is the most consistent way to support every use case (even English) such as this App::Crag example :- ^<௪௨ mph> [15:31] *** soverysour joined [15:31] *** soverysour left [15:31] *** soverysour joined [15:34] *** sibl left [15:39] *** soverysour left [15:46] *** topnep left [15:47] *** topnep joined [16:11] *** soverysour joined [16:15] *** abraxxa left [16:18] *** soverysour left [16:27] *** soverysour joined [16:46] *** soverysour left [16:49] *** soverysour joined [16:49] *** soverysour left [16:49] *** soverysour joined [17:09] *** soverysour left [17:09] Selkie v0.4.3 fixes a bunch of power consumption/CPU wake issues, fixes a bug where closing certain modals could result in nothing being focused. [17:11] *** soverysour joined [17:11] *** soverysour left [17:11] *** soverysour joined [17:16] *** soverysour left [17:20] *** soverysour joined [17:20] *** soverysour left [17:20] *** soverysour joined [17:25] *** soverysour left [17:51] *** topnep left [17:52] *** topnep joined [17:52] *** simcop2387 joined [18:15] @apogee_ntv I was trying to describe this work to someone today... [18:29] Which work? [18:30] Selkie [18:32] Ideally -- since you said Selkie is declarative -- one could use Selkie via a Markdown file template that prescribes the elements/widgets locations or arrangment. [18:58] I was thinking on trying doing that on a html-like way… [19:00] Or maybe into something like functional Air… [19:09] YAML/TOML may fit better than markdown [19:10] I think the best description I've found so far is it's re-frame for TUI [19:10] But it's not entirely accurate. [19:26] <[Coke]> oh, right, I never went back to try to get that build working on windows. [19:37] apogee_ntv: It would be cool to write something like swift-ui for that… [19:41] *** [r4] left [19:48] *** soverysour joined [19:48] *** soverysour left [19:48] *** soverysour joined [19:58] *** soverysour left [20:25] SmokeMachine: Yeah, the only tough part is wiring up subscriptions & event emitters. [22:29] m: my %h = (:a(1)); my %i = (:a(2); say (%h:exists) && (%i<1>:exists); [22:29] librasteve_, rakudo-moar 9a8b94dfe: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) ===SORRY!=== Error while compilin…» [22:29] librasteve_, Full output: https://gist.github.com/abb98f702d65918f3ffc4e5333533006 [22:29] m: my %h = (:a(1)); my %i = (:a(2)); say (%h :exists) && (%i<1>:exists); [22:29] librasteve_, rakudo-moar 9a8b94dfe: OUTPUT: «False␤» [22:29] m: my %h = (:a(1)); my %i = (:a(2); say (%h :exists) && (%i :exists); [22:30] librasteve_, rakudo-moar 9a8b94dfe: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) ===SORRY!=== Error while compilin…» [22:30] librasteve_, Full output: https://gist.github.com/9c06ae3c7eb60275b0eff9c462791e29 [22:30] m: my %h = (:a(1)); my %i = (:a(2)); say (%h :exists) && (%i :exists); [22:30] librasteve_, rakudo-moar 9a8b94dfe: OUTPUT: «True␤» [22:30] phew (and sorry) [22:30] so that worked, but… [22:31] m: my %h = (:a(1)); my %i = (:a(2)); say %h :exists && %i :exists; [22:31] librasteve_, rakudo-moar 9a8b94dfe: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /tmp/aN9aHifXvO␤You can't adverb &infix:<&&>␤at /tmp/aN9aHifXvO:1␤------> :a(2)); say %h :exists && %i :exists;␤ expecting any of:␤ pair value␤» [22:31] I would have thought that adverb binds tighter than && operator ??? [22:40] nope [23:05] *** havochunter joined [23:27] *** havochunter left [23:42] you could avoid () [23:43] m: my %h = (:a(1)); my %i = (:a(2)); say [&&] %h :exists, %i :exists; [23:43] Voldenet, rakudo-moar 4ee541b5c: OUTPUT: «True␤» [23:43] syntax is very foreign [23:43] or [23:43] m: my %h = (:a(1)); my %i = (:a(2)); say all %h :exists, %i :exists; [23:43] Voldenet, rakudo-moar 4ee541b5c: OUTPUT: «all(True, True)␤» [23:45] it's probably slower than raw && [23:59] *** jartycujck67 joined