[00:36] Yeah shouldnt be too hard to wrap treesitter? [00:37] Or parse those... whats the files the JS hilite uses? [00:37] highlight.js config files [00:37] Should be easy with a grammar [00:37] or is it prism.js? [00:38] I dont know, I dont write a lot of JS [00:38] In theory AST and deparse should be able to highlight, I suppose… [00:39] https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter/tree/master/crates/highlight Should be able to write thin FFI wrapper around this [00:39] then nativecall to it [00:40] https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter/blob/master/crates/highlight/include/tree_sitter/highlight.h There's already ffi [01:03] m: use experimental :rakuast; say “say 11 + 31”.AST.DEPARSE: class Bla is RakuAST::Deparse { method hsyn($type, $content) { “({ $type }: { $content })” } } # apogee_ntv [01:03] SmokeMachine, rakudo-moar 5e09687ff: OUTPUT: «(core-say: say) (literal: 11) (infix-+: +) (lit…» [01:03] SmokeMachine, Full output: https://gist.github.com/614e6c43bd69a0e041a3fa41ed2e0840 [01:13] *** hulk joined [01:14] *** kylese left [01:29] *** sibl joined [01:29] *** sibl left [01:29] *** sibl joined [02:00] spoon a multi line input, is there a way to get the cursor position and/or emit events when that position changes? 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[07:31] *** soverysour joined [07:35] *** Sgeo left [07:41] *** soverysour left [07:43] *** soverysour joined [07:43] *** soverysour left [07:43] *** soverysour joined [07:50] *** soverysour left [08:21] *** soverysour joined [08:21] *** soverysour left [08:21] *** soverysour joined [08:28] *** soverysour left [08:52] *** soverysour joined [08:56] *** soverysour left [09:11] *** sibl left [09:35] :) [09:48] fwiw i use Rainbow for syntax hiliting … not quite RakuAST [10:07] *** justache left [10:07] *** justache joined [10:22] *** xkr47 left [10:40] I don’t know how I would add colors to a MultiLineInput, neither how to do that while writing… apogee_ntv, any suggestion? [10:50] SmokeMachine: It's not currently rich IIRC. I think we would want a proper editor widget. [10:50] Since multiline doesnt support things like normal up/down navigation on multiline text, it would make a poor editor for large source files. [10:55] apogee_ntv: Sorry, what do you mean by up/down? It seems to work... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/rYSJAQMr/CleanShot%202026-04-29%20at%2011.54.25.gif [10:57] Scroll also seem to work... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ElMeokeQ/CleanShot%202026-04-29%20at%2011.56.54.gif [11:00] SmokeMachine: If the lines wrap, it will wrap to the logical line not the display line, it also wont preserve col if it goes past a blank line IIRC. It wont feel like vim/emacs I guess is what I mean :P [11:00] *** sibl joined [11:01] I mostly designed the existing widget set for an LLM inference client so 'chat-ish' purposes, an editor widget is on my todo list though [11:01] I would like an editor written in Raku to edit Raku, good dogfooding opportunity. [11:02] apogee_ntv: you mean something like this? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/IoYtqmhm/CleanShot%202026-04-29%20at%2012.01.55.gif [11:03] But right now working on some other Selkie apps [11:03] No I mean, go on one of the a's and press down [11:03] or up [11:03] It will move the cursor to the logical line above/below, not the character displayed above/below [11:04] Then go in vim and do the same [11:04] It will move to the character [11:04] on the display line below [11:05] And if you make 3 lines: 'abcdefg', 'zyx', and '1234567'. Put the cursor on 'f'. In any normal editor if you press down twice, cursor will end up on '6'. Here I believe it will end up on '1' or '3' (not 100% sure off hand). [11:06] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/T1MxkhB5/CleanShot%202026-04-29%20at%2012.04.13.gif [11:06] Yeah see, it should jump to the 'a' on the 2nd line directly below the 'a' you have highlighted to 'feel right' as an editor. [11:07] Though that one is less important than [11:10] on nvim... my last moves were using "gj" and "gk", that's why it came from a line of "a" to another line of "a"... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EIOKmHI7/CleanShot%202026-04-29%20at%2012.08.06.gif [11:10] (sorry I tried to keep the same panes/windows/... positions) [11:11] Sec let me show you the bigger problem [11:11] https://wormhole.app/kzBPPm#Xv_UwBkvshdYoFyJlTzsQg [11:12] on my example with MultiLineInput IMHO the biggest problem is when going back to the "a" line, it does not go back to the column it was before... [11:12] Yeah exactly [11:12] Thats the big 'editor pane' issue [11:12] Though tbh I'd like to do one with modal editing & vim keybinds lol [11:12] At least the major ones like i, esc, hjkl. [11:13] I would like it a lot [11:13] I'm also looking at wrapping treesitter to give it syntax highlighting [11:14] And AST level hierarchy for i.e. go to definition [11:14] Not going to implement a full code editor [11:14] But at least enough that it feels nice [11:15] I'm looking forward to it... it would male the playground and some other projects I'm planing to start much nicer... [11:24] I plan to do some widgets in a Selkie::X namespace, just to avoid making the base lib huge. [11:24] Like pulling in treesitter as a dep definitely doesnt belong in Selkie base. [11:26] Its a pretty heavy rust lib [11:47] Hm there's actually no full coverage treesitter plugin *for* Raku that I can find. [11:48] Maybe RakuAST can do this job better... [11:54] Hm, I will end up in a rabbithole if I keep looking at syntax highlighting :D Parking for now, its definitely doable but its a large chunk of work because the logic to do the actual highlighting from RakuAST is hard and treesitter probably cant cover slangs etc. [11:54] Though done right it could make the neovim experience less painful. [12:05] for syntax highlight, it seems Rainbow should be used (as librasteve_ suggested) [12:07] apogee_ntv: is there some kind of a tree widget? I mean a widget to create trees [12:08] *** [dpk] joined [12:08] *** dpk left [12:09] SmokeMachine: Not currently but I have trees in one of my projects [12:10] *** [dpk] is now known as dpk [12:12] Would you be kind enough to share that code (or maybe if you have enough time, create a widget with that)? [12:14] Yeah its only 1 level so not really a tree but should be easy to recurse, let me dig it up [12:15] Actually I implemented multi-level even though data is 1 level [12:19] *** soverysour joined [12:19] *** soverysour left [12:19] *** soverysour joined [12:19] Even better! :) [12:22] OK it's pretty deeply embedded in a whole bunch of other render logic lol but https://paste2.org/zX8IO1v4 should cover all of the tree render logic. [12:23] *** soverysour left [12:23] This is for a TUI gtd app I've been building [12:24] And these widgets are specifically for tasks, not just lines of text, hence all the extra logic [12:24] I got fed up of paying for omnifocus so decided to rebuild it [12:27] https://wormhole.app/Pp6ElN#RhZthZVlnzS21rXK5BWbkQ Renders like this [12:28] anyone having problems on github with "actions/checkout@v4"? if so, what's the fix? [12:29] tbrowder: Use checkout@v5 I guess [12:29] or v6 [12:29] I know Github actions are turning off Node 20 runners at some point but my v4s are still working atm [12:30] apogee_ntv: it looks good! I’m planing on using that to list a match returned by a grammar parse [12:31] ok, thnx, i'll try v5 which i assume works. in the early days i thought a raku person had to build the actions [12:35] I am aiming for a v1 Selkie release sometime next month with a proper website, tree widget should probably be a high priority with collapse/expand logic. [12:36] Aiming to pull some non-Raku people over by offering the only route to notcurses that doesn't require you to know notcurses internals lol [12:36] Which is a vast api -- ~600 functions, full manual memory management, etc [12:40] I built ~90% Omnifocus parity in a week, thats a $150/yr commercial application. Kinda nice. [12:46] *** sibl left [12:51] apogee_ntv: I totally agree Selkie is very very nice and I think it has the potential to bring people to Raku. I hope, once it’s done, Selkie::UI can also help a bit… :) [12:53] I think it will, Selkie is verbose for simple things. [12:54] Selkie::UI seems not to be as verbose. [12:55] Well, I say Selkie is verbose, I'm used to writing raw notcurses and it's much more terse than that but probably building TUI in asm is less verbose than using notcurses (: [12:56] Great lib but it prioritises feature completeness & perf over DX at every junction [12:59] btw, my problem was actually caused by a spurious comma on the end of a META6.json file. not an intuitive msg... [13:18] oh - maybe post your reddit items to reddit/r/C_Programming ... there seems to be some notcurses stuff there [13:23] Hm they might get upset when it's not in C though :D Selkie is half pseudo-C I guess. [13:23] Its a *lot* of NativeCall [13:49] yeah - I guess [14:36] librasteve_: I’m sorry, but I’m curious… so how did you implement the PR you closed on Cromponents today? [14:38] PR? Cromponents? Me? Today? [14:39] Oh - short memory - sorry [14:40] https://github.com/FCO/Cromponent/issues/19 [14:43] OK - three things I guess [14:47] (i) Air::Base::Nav is already a thing https://github.com/librasteve/Air/blob/b6759a631c47d95383eb9cc809cacbeac4a0172e/lib/Air/Base.rakumod#L403 and it and yes it takes a List of Pairs like this https://github.com/librasteve/raku.org/blob/bd84ffb60bb86f3baf19de2fb4e3e5f1d50742b0/lib/Org.rakumod#L60 I did not make C(r)omponent a target - but no reason why not [14:50] 👍 [14:50] (ii) the stubs refactor includes an explicit page tree - on reflection my thinking was to ape WordPress (!) and there an admin can dynamically change page name and reassign the parent (no restart) - so I realised that needs a catch all Cro route (here *@rest) https://github.com/librasteve/Air/blob/b6759a631c47d95383eb9cc809cacbeac4a0172e/lib/Air/Base.rakumod#L929 [14:51] here is how to declare and inspect the tree https://github.com/librasteve/Air-Examples/blob/main/bin/23-stubs.raku [14:52] note that this also makes a robots.txt and a sitemap.xml [14:54] *** xkr47 joined [14:56] (iii) I have kept the class Page does C(r)omponent does Sitemapped {...} so that entire pages can be stored in Red and you can easily extend to have a query to eg list all pages and their create dates, titles, descriptions (thing the archive view on https://rakudoweekly.blog) [14:57] the canonical WordPress model is that everything is a post and all gets stored in the posts table; the canonical Air model is that everything is a C(r)omponent and everything gets stored in Red via it's own model [15:02] makes sense [15:03] 👍 (you are welcome to propose improvements to Air ofc) [15:40] *** itaipu left [15:46] *** human-blip left [15:48] *** human-blip joined [15:52] librasteve_: I'm starting playing with this idea I think is closer to what was wanting: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UgiAF17r/CleanShot%202026-04-29%20at%2016.49.05.gif [15:52] *** dakkar left [15:53] but I plan to make the output a tree [15:54] and I want to make that tree selectable and when selected it would highlight the session on the string it corresponds to [15:57] *** itaipu joined [16:06] *** abraxxa left [16:12] *** soverysour joined [16:12] *** soverysour left [16:12] *** soverysour joined [16:18] *** andinus left [16:19] is there a way to avoid infinite loop on generic grammars? or at least timeout grammars? when I do something wrong that starts a loop on this test, it hangs... [16:20] that looks reasonable [16:21] *** soverysour left [16:30] *** soverysour joined [16:40] *** soverysour left [16:41] *** human-blip left [16:42] SmokeMachine: perhaps you can figure out running with -Mownup and then pressing ctrl-c when it infiniloops [16:42] it will give you the stacktraces of all threads [16:43] *** human-blip joined [16:45] *** soverysour joined [16:45] *** soverysour left [16:45] *** soverysour joined [16:47] *** Guest35 joined [16:48] *** Guest35 left [16:50] *** soverysour left [16:55] lizmat: thanks, let me try it out [16:56] lizmat: ownup? is that builtin? it wasn't found here... [16:57] oops, sorry [16:57] -Mown-up [16:57] and yes that's a builtin module [17:03] it did not print anything... :( [17:03] ah? But it did stop execution? or not ? [17:04] I ctrl+c it... [17:07] what happens if you: [17:07] $ raku -Mown-up -e 'loop { }' [17:07] and control-c that ? [17:08] lizmat: on this example it hanged when I pressed * (`rule char {.*}`) and then after trying to write anything, arrows, etc and nothing happening, I ctrl+c https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9Cji2qe8/CleanShot%202026-04-29%20at%2018.05.26.gif [17:09] let me try to golf it... [17:09] yeah, looks like Selkie is stealing control-c [17:09] m: use own-up; own-up [17:09] lizmat, rakudo-moar a8b8c7132: OUTPUT: «(exit code 1) ===SORRY!=== Error while compilin…» [17:09] lizmat, Full output: https://gist.github.com/274b49b3962c1db6fdf28d9efa47ef7e [17:10] m: VM.own-up [17:10] lizmat, rakudo-moar a8b8c7132: OUTPUT: «(exit code 2) ␤==========␤Thread 1 (perl6) requ…» [17:10] lizmat, Full output: https://gist.github.com/14068bcce4f6c9296198a1293788ea64 [17:10] if you can make it to execute "VM.own-up" an a control-c, you should be in business [17:10] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XxlZ1rNk/ [17:11] Thread 1 is the interesing one... [17:12] but it doesn't tell us much :-( [17:12] :( [17:14] I don't know what to do... :( [17:15] if you put that code in a text file and then run it, does it also hang? Am not sure whether this is a core or a Selkie issue at this point? [17:19] I am considering a generic way to get from a Grammar to a populated object - ie if the attribute names match the token / rule names then they get loaded - a Transformer that takes a Match and a class name and returns an instance [17:19] does anything like that exist? [17:19] (in Raku land) [17:20] aren't actions allowing you to do that ? [17:21] sure - but i’m too lazy to write a custom Action for each target class [17:22] maybe i can write a role on the class that takes the match object and then introspects :-) [17:23] does Actionable [17:28] *** andinus joined [17:30] on my last message I tried that with no selfie... [17:31] m: grammar Bla { rule TOP {+}; rule char {.*} } [17:31] SmokeMachine, rakudo-moar a8b8c7132: OUTPUT: «» [17:32] m: grammar Bla { rule TOP {+}; rule char {.*} }; Bla.parse: "asdf" [17:32] SmokeMachine, rakudo-moar a8b8c7132: OUTPUT: «(signal SIGHUP) «timed out after 10 seconds»» [17:40] that feels like it should just match all chars... [17:43] lizmat: that's expected to infinite loop, and that's usually ok... my problem is that I am running that grammar on every edit to the code, so it makes it much easier to happen... [17:46] *** soverysour joined [17:55] *** abraxxa joined [18:18] o/ [18:20] So I am generating Sparrow task check DSL using Qwen 3.6 plus and results are pretty impressive [18:20] Here are some examples for those who are interested [18:21] verify output from rpm command to verify package is installed and has some specific version or greater then the one - https://chat.rockylinux.org/rocky-linux/pl/6rah1zzyctg4bbbzu4tpt5doar [18:22] verify output from df command and validate that you have swap and home mounts , and that /root partition capacity is more then 20 percentage - https://rpa.st/LO4JE [18:23] verify that input is valid date in ISO format and that this is current date - https://rpa.st/MPTAQ [18:24] Sometimes it uses Python for handlers, sometimes Perl. I don’t know why )) [18:24] https://github.com/melezhik/Sparrow6/blob/master/documentation/taskchecks.md [18:27] *** abraxxa left [18:28] If someone wants to try just let me know - I use Qwen for free from browsers [18:29] The question should be: “You are sparrow task check dsl expert - use following links as documentation https://github.com/melezhik/Sparrow6/blob/master/documentation/taskchecks.md And generate task check dsl code to BLA BLA BLA” [18:29] SmokeMachine: if you don't mind memleaks on abort, then maybe raw pthreads could work [18:35] (there's no uv_thread_abort, so you can't do this https://github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/blob/091571bdbd7afa51970d05bfc0824c9f1f441560/src/core/threads.c#L185 ) [18:42] any reliable timeouts in EVAL would pretty much require hacky threading magic though [18:42] *** abraxxa joined [18:47] *** soverysour left [18:48] verify output from raku -v command and verify that raku version is greater then 2026.04 - https://rpa.st/PJMXS [18:48] This is kinda cool - LLM knows how to use zoom in expression ( within: ) [19:53] *** perryprog left [19:54] *** perryprog joined [19:57] *** soverysour joined [19:59] *** soverysour left [20:17] *** perryprog left [20:18] *** perryprog joined [20:50] *** peder left [21:01] *** justache left [21:05] *** justache joined [21:05] *** justache left [21:07] *** justache joined [21:35] *** abraxxa left [21:41] *** Aedil left [21:53] *** perryprog left [21:58] *** perryprog joined [21:58] <[Coke]> easiest way to test something where you have to run the test on a given day? container? Maybe an override of Date.today? [22:00] maybe override Date.today with a wrapper set from an ENV? [22:13] depends on how you create the Date object [22:15] m: use MONKEY; my class Date is Date { method today() { "2006-04-30".Date } }; dd Date.today [22:15] lizmat, rakudo-moar a8b8c7132: OUTPUT: «Date.new(2006,4,30)␤» [22:15] m: my class Date is Date { method today() { "2006-04-30".Date } }; dd Date.today # don't need MONKEY that way [22:15] lizmat, rakudo-moar a8b8c7132: OUTPUT: «Date.new(2006,4,30)␤» [22:17] *** Sgeo joined [22:38] <[Coke]> nice [22:47] *** silug left [23:15] Currently bumping all of my packages to not use node 20 github actions, hopefully nothing breaks :D [23:15] I already had to adopt a Windows action for setting up msvc [23:15] <[Coke]> don't rush with that. [23:15] <[Coke]> let me find you the bug... [23:16] <[Coke]> https://github.com/microsoft/azure-pipelines-agent/issues/5464 [23:16] <[Coke]> Sounds like 20 is the recommended version right now and the warning was over-eager [23:17] [Coke]: I suspect `RAKUDO_RAKUAST=1 make install` never truly worked. what would have sort of worked was doing like `make install && RAKUDO_RAKUAST=1 make install` [23:18] which is an easy state to find yourself in and not realize it [23:18] <[Coke]> ah, ok. [23:18] <[Coke]> do you want https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5906 ? [23:18] since make doesn't know that environment variable means the artifacts it would generate wouuld be different [23:19] i already submitted PRs to make it work [23:19] [Coke]: Node 20 is EOL Apr 30th [23:19] <[Coke]> ahhh. [23:19] <[Coke]> apogee_ntv: ah, those tickets were complaining about the warning in advance, didn't realize we were that close. [23:20] PRs 6123 through 6127 are for make install [23:20] I dont think they will remove it from Github Actions until probably Oct [23:20] the ones after that are for make test and make spectest [23:20] But it does go EOL today (as of UK time) [23:21] *** perryprog left [23:21] Raku/install-rakudo action is really flaky atm [23:21] Raku/setup-raku* [23:22] Times out on about 20% of runs. [23:23] i've merged the PRs that anyone left a comment or emoji on [23:29] <[Coke]> ugexe++ [23:35] *** perryprog joined