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[12:32] * lizmat pings librasteve

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[13:33] <lizmat> weekly: https://dev.to/lizmat/a-year-later-a-trf-1lh0

[13:33] <notable6> lizmat, Noted! (weekly)

[13:39] <lizmat> votes would be appreciated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48541123

[13:41] <patrickb> lizmat++ Nice write-up. Thanks!

[13:46] <patrickb> yc link to point says "[DEAD]"

[13:46] <patrickb> *post

[13:46] <lizmat> tyoical

[13:46] <lizmat> typical

[13:46] <lizmat> note to self: don't post anything about yourself on Hacker News

[13:49] <lizmat> put the link to the blog post in the comment, so at least that works 

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[14:09] <disbot4> <librasteve> I have made the post UNDEAD (yes, I have the power - takes about 600 kudos points) ... please do chime in so that we can raise awarnesss

[14:09] <lizmat> librasteve++

[14:32] <disbot4> <librasteve> okaaay - lizmat has announced the formation of The Raku Foundation - a new oversight body of the Raku Programming Language - kudos to her for all the work and hopefully not too many feathers ruffled over at TPRF (The Perl and Raku Foundation for those who don't know)

[14:33] <lizmat> TPRF board has been aware of this process from before my blog post  :-)

[14:33] <lizmat> *orginal blog post a year ago

[14:34] <disbot4> <librasteve> sadly, lizmat's submission to the Hackernews site was marked DEAD and by the time I got to it, even though I fixed that - there is not enough momentum ion terms of comments per minute to get it to the front page

[14:34] <lizmat> :-(

[14:34] <disbot4> <librasteve> I have tried reposting the url to lizmats article - but that is treated like it was her original

[14:35] <disbot4> <librasteve> so I am going to post a new submission using the raku.foundation link

[14:37] <disbot4> <librasteve> please do help by going here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48541940 and commenting your thoughts

[14:49] <librasteve_> hmmm - this is weird … surely zef info Contact should list the higher version initially?

[14:49] <librasteve_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jIdwwIzN

[14:56] <librasteve_> https://github.com/ugexe/zef/issues/621

[15:04] <ugexe> if you have it installed it shows the version you have installed

[15:05] <ugexe> oh, right. api 1 is greater than api 0

[15:05] <ugexe> so it is choosing the higher version. the higher api version.

[15:05] <disbot4> <librasteve> oh sugar

[15:06] <disbot4> <librasteve> sorry - that explains it ofc

[15:07] <ugexe> yeah it'd be nice if the string version put them like :api<>:ver<>:auth<> (or :auth<>:api<>:ver>) but that probably would break stuff at this point

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[15:58] <librasteve_> notable6: weekly

[15:58] <notable6> librasteve_, 1 note: 2026-06-15T13:33:52Z <lizmat>: https://dev.to/lizmat/a-year-later-a-trf-1lh0

[15:59] <librasteve_> notable6: weekly reset

[15:59] <notable6> librasteve_, Moved existing notes to “weekly_2026-06-15T15:59:03Z”

[16:15] <japhb> ugexe: I'm in favor of trying the rearrangement.  I'd love to have something that sorted decently in string form as well.  And `zef search` to present them in sorted order as well.

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