[00:02] ugexe: Thanks! I'll test it out again soon! [00:11] guifa: I'm in the process of building out some tree transformation stuff (as part of data-oriented programming). It's still pretty buggy, but an early version has been released at https://raku.land/zef:wayland/Qwiratry . Note that I've already fixed bugs in that version (and haven't released the fixes yet). My idea is that, in the future, we don't have just grammar + actions, we have grammar + transform + transform + transform. One of those transforms ( [00:11] probably the last) could be eg. a string output (if we wanted to eg.parse json, change the structure, then emit as YAML). [00:12] guifa: If your familiar with XSLT, that's the inspiration for this one. [00:21] aruniecrisps: Thanks! 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I've worked on it in such a way that it can now mostly do what ASTQuery does, though it doesn't have all the little helpers that ASTQuery has. The documentation isn't nearly as good as ASTQuery though. [13:48] For context, this is the first part of Data-Oriented Programming, which is the querying and manipulation of trees. [13:49] My expectation is that next I'll go on to JSON, YAML, and XML. And probably XKB config files (just because I need them). [13:50] SmokeMachine: ^^ It may be getting close to the point where you can investigate whether it'd be easier to just make ASTQuery a bunch of helpers that add on to Qwiratry. I don't know whether you want to do that, and I don't know that we're quite at that point yet, but we might be getting close. [13:51] https://rakudoweekly.blog/2026/06/29/2026-26-release-194/ [13:56] *** wayland joined [13:57] *** wayland76 left [13:58] As an Australian, I don't need Fahrenheit to mock your heatwave :p (cf. the Weekly for context). [14:02] OK, Qwiratry 0.0.4 is out :) [14:02] (Looks like I just missed the weekly, but that's OK :) ). [14:06] wayland: interesting! [14:42] *** abraxxa left [16:34] *** dakkar left [17:05] [Coke] are you still using yr own build/install method for the latest rakudo? if so would you mind sharing it? [17:05] <[Coke]> ? i've been using rakubrew for ages [17:05] <[Coke]> on both mac and windows [17:05] <[Coke]> (and linux if I'm on it) [17:06] <[Coke]> once the binary releases are available, you can "rakubrew download moar 2026.05", e.g. and you don't even need to do a build [17:06] <[Coke]> but if I do need to test a specific sha1, I can have rakubrew build it and then switch to it as needed. [17:07] *** swaggboi joined [17:07] ok, it was probably a special situation you were helping me with… [17:07] *** johnjay left [17:15] <[Coke]> was it on windows? 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( https://github.com/ugexe/zef/issues/622 is what I'm seeing) [23:57] Update: I reached out about Red ORM and Air. He's aware of them. HTH, [23:58] I am aware. Thanks for checking :)