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[12:42] <El_Che> tbrowder: debian 13 is there: https://github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg/releases/tag/v2026.06

[12:50] <tbrowder> El_Che: thanks!

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[13:35] <El_Che> (and in the repos)

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[17:58] <[Coke]> I appear to have a service I setup to run at startup on my ubuntu box (it's raku.land, but it's not working) - I have no memory of what I did to set this up. Any suggestions on where to look to remove it from startup?

[17:59] <perryprog> if you're lucky you can ^R search for systemd and the service name will probably be in there

[17:59] <[Coke]> (note: it's *my copy of raku.land*, not the real one)

[17:59] <perryprog> you'd want something like either sudo systemd disable rakuland.service or possibly systemd --user disable rakuland.service 

[17:59] <[Coke]> in shell history? this was years ago. Don't see anything.

[18:00] <perryprog> that's why I don't cap my shell history :P

[18:01] <[Coke]> I have no idea what it's called. I don't see anything in systemctl list-units --all

[18:01] <perryprog> Check both sudo systemctl list-units --all as well as systemctl --user list-units --all?

[18:03] <[Coke]> nope. only thing in the user one is the blin run I'm currently doing.

[18:03] <perryprog> also adding --type=service might help

[18:03] <perryprog> uhhhh

[18:04] <perryprog> Maybe just check places like /usr/lib/systemd/user?

[18:06] <[Coke]> nope.

[18:06] <[Coke]> I feel slightly better now that I couldn't find it on my own. :)

[18:06] <perryprog> Maybe check what the parent is with pstree?

[18:06] <[Coke]> and also worse. what the hell did I do? :)

[18:07] <perryprog> (what the parent is of the raku.land process*)

[18:08] <[Coke]> the process that is showing up is `rakudo /usr/share/site/bin/lorea'

[18:08] <[Coke]> er,

[18:09] <[Coke]> rakudo /usr/share/perl6/site/bin/lorea --start-service ...

[18:09] <[Coke]> /usr/share/perl6 doesn't exist.

[18:09] <[Coke]> rakudo───5*[{rakudo}]

[18:09] <[Coke]> ^^ pstree <pid of that process>

[18:10] <perryprog> and what does it graphically point to as the parent of the process?

[18:10] <[Coke]> that is the literal only line

[18:10] <[Coke]> ... bah, the owner of this process is "azureuser", which is me.

[18:10] <perryprog> ... of pstree?

[18:11] <perryprog> aha!

[18:11] <[Coke]> yes

[18:11] <perryprog> okay, so it's not systemd starting it

[18:12] <perryprog> Could it be in a crontab with a @reboot?

[18:12] <[Coke]> I don't see anything in .bashrc, .login...

[18:12] <[Coke]> no crontab for azureuser

[18:12] <[Coke]> no crontab for root

[18:12] <perryprog> Double check crontab -l?

[18:13] <[Coke]> that's what I ran, got those outputs for `crontab -l` `sudo crontab -l`

[18:13] <perryprog> uhhhhhhhhhhh. This isn't an insanely old version of Ubuntu right

[18:14] <perryprog> it's also not in like /etc/init.d right

[18:15] <perryprog> and/or in /etc/rc2.d 

[18:16] <[Coke]> VERSION="24.04.4 LTS (Noble Numbat)"

[18:17] <[Coke]> don't see anything perl6/raku/lorea under those two dirs.

[18:17] <[Coke]> I appreciate you sticking with me. :)

[18:17] <perryprog> the fudge...

[18:18] <[Coke]> I can give you ssh access if you are curious enough. :)

[18:18] <perryprog> Could try doing some locate searches 

[18:18] <perryprog> But that'll take away the satisfaction from you once it's figured out!

[18:18] <[Coke]> Initializing plocate database; this may take some time...

[18:19] <[Coke]> Honestly, I'm tempted to start a new blin testing/release box and use that instead. :|

[18:19] <perryprog> (it shouldn't take thaaat long. It's just a big 'search by filename' thing)

[18:23] <tbrowder> El_Che: i'm getting an error running yr simple script. it complains about insecurity of sha1. i think that happened somewhere between release of debian 12 or 13. i'll gist the exe and output here shortly.

[18:24] <tbrowder> make that more like an hour...

[18:25] <perryprog> [Coke] can you send the output of: pstree `pgrep -o rakudo`

[18:25] <perryprog> correction

[18:26] <perryprog> pstree -s `pgrep -o rakudo`

[18:33] <[Coke]> systemd───containerd-shim───rakudo───5*[{rakudo}]

[18:33] <perryprog> oh!

[18:34] <perryprog> so it 1) is systemd and 2) is getting run by containerd

[18:35] <perryprog> I'm not familiar with containerd but you'll want to look through its files to see if it has something

[18:35] <perryprog> Presumably somewhere in /etc/containerd/

[18:45] <[Coke]> grep -v "^#" /etc/containerd/config.toml -> disabled_plugins = ["cri"]

[18:46] <[Coke]> ctr --namespace default tasks list -> nada

[18:46] <[Coke]> :sigh:

[18:47] <[Coke]> ok, back to blin stuff. :|

[18:47] <perryprog> probably need sudo for the ctr command since it looks like you aren't running rootless

[18:47] <perryprog> (But again I don't know containerd so)

[18:48] <[Coke]> yes, there was a sudo there too

[18:48] <perryprog> rip

[18:53] <[Coke]> mmm

[18:53] <[Coke]> thanks, though!

[18:54] <perryprog> 👻

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