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[02:02] <wayland> Question: if I'm in a "start" block, how do I keep the promise halfway through (like return, but return doesn't work in a start block)?  

[02:13] <ugexe> could use a vow

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[02:22] <ugexe> m: my $p = Promise.new; start { $p.keep(42); sleep 60; }; say $p.result

[02:22] <camelia> rakudo-moar 6c5175469: OUTPUT: «42␤»

[02:33] <japhb> For extra points, actually make it a true vow:

[02:33] <japhb> m: my $p = Promise.new; my $v = $p.vow; start { $v.keep(42); sleep 60; }; say $p.result

[02:33] <camelia> rakudo-moar 6c5175469: OUTPUT: «42␤»

[02:34] <japhb> (Taking a .vow on a Promise ensures that no other holder of that Promise is allowed to mutate it.)

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[05:34] <wayland76> Oh!  Those look good.  I was getting errors saying I couldn't keep the promise inside the start block, but those examples make it obvious what I was doing wrong.  

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[07:37] <Voldenet> you can always make it a sub

[07:37] <Voldenet> m: sub x { return 42; }; say await start x;

[07:37] <camelia> rakudo-moar 6c5175469: OUTPUT: «42␤»

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[09:42] <wayland76> Oh, good idea :) 

[11:25] <apogee_ntv> Pushed updates to LLM::Chat, LLM::Data::Inference & LLM::Data::Pipelines, agentic pipelines are closer than ever.

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[22:45] <wayland76> Do we have anything that's at all like n8n / node-red?  

[22:46] <jjido> o_o

[22:58] <wayland76> (I'm planning to make one, but current estimates say it'll be 1-2 years before I start)

[23:00] <jjido> wayland76 and Raku is where you want to start?

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[23:17] <wayland76> jjido: I'm currently working on adding "Data-Oriented Programming" to Raku as a Slang (ie. Tree manipulation inspired by XPath/XSLT, and Table manipulation inspired by SQL/Spreadsheets/xHarbour/dBase).  My schedule says that's going to take me a year.  Once that's doing, I'm going to discover how to hook it to user interfaces.  The very next thing after that will be a n8n/node-red alike.  

[23:18] <wayland76> Of course, I could end up getting distracted from that.  

[23:18] <jjido> I like the ambition :-)

[23:19] <wayland76> I don't :p .  I just want the tools I've been waiting for since about the year 2000.  :) 

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