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[11:50] <disbot> <antononcube> FYI: https://dev.to/2colours/why-raku-junctions-cannot-work-the-short-story-2kmi

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[12:08] <lizmat> "Anyway, if this article only achieves as much as opening a discussion"

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[12:27] <Voldenet> junctions are great, but also aren't magic

[12:27] <disbot> <antononcube> @lizmat Do you want to see those links here or not? (I can definitely restrain myself sharing them.)

[12:32] <Voldenet> junctions are pretty good at what they were made to do and pretty bad at what they weren't made to do

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[12:35] <lizmat> antononcube no, please do post them here

[12:36] <Voldenet> things like: `valid-ratio(any(10, 75, 4), all(2, 6, 7, 11))` sound very dubious though, I wouldn't know how this would work

[12:36] <Guest303> The point is exactly that they aren't really good at it

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[12:36] <Guest303> Anyway, if 2 or 3 people paid proper attention, then there would be no need to the ad-hominem. I know it's hard to escape this line of thinking.

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[12:37] <Voldenet> m: my $x = 3; if $x == 1 | 3 | 5 { $x.say }

[12:37] <camelia> rakudo-moar e17a1d43b: OUTPUT: «3␤»

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[12:37] <Voldenet> this is what is the primary goal for junctions

[12:37] <Voldenet> imo

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[12:38] <Voldenet> the more convoluted the logic is, the worse

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[12:46] <Voldenet> I tend to avoid passing junctions as arguments to blocks though, it feels icky that `sub(Junction $x)` gets called differently than sub($x)`

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[14:37] <ugexe> yeah its not a great situation. they make optimizations difficult/impossible in many situations so you should avoid them for code you want to be fast. and how they work for non-trivial examples often isn't intuitive to someone reading the code.

[14:41] <ugexe> junctions and allomorphs would probably be two of the first things i'd redesign/reconsider for similar reasons

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[18:45] <MasterDuke> ugexe: did you see my mention about compiler warnings after the make-jit-act-like-interp pr was merged?

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[23:19] <SmokeMachine> I just want to let other people know that I started using ai on Red...

