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[01:43] <apogee_ntv> tadzik: I genuinely don't think it's unreasonable to push back on reviews you cannot safely approve.

[01:44] <apogee_ntv> It's not obstructionist to ask someone to break the PR up and an LLM can do that just fine.

[01:48] <apogee_ntv> I'm as pro-AI as pretty much anyone and the purpose of LLMs is not and cannot be to offload our work onto our colleagues. Throwing huge unchecked PRs at people is that.

[01:48] <apogee_ntv> If you cant review it, they almost certainly didnt either.

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[01:58] <disbot> <antononcube> At some point someone will come with a "new Agile" that can streamline these kind developer interaction that include LLMs.

[01:59] <disbot> <antononcube> (Might be called "Viber" or "Vibrator".)

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[02:30] <[Coke]> Pretty sure it wqon't be called the latter.

[02:33] <apogee_ntv> Its on my very long todo list to build proper flows for this kind of thing.

[02:33] <apogee_ntv> I kindof have them but they're enforced from local prompt files that have a lot of project-specific stuff in. Not in a reusable format.

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[03:54] <Voldenet> meh, good code, even made by AI looks nice, but your instructions have to be precise and you have to work over a lot of pieces of code

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[06:06] <Voldenet> btw, gotta say that Selkie::UI is amazing, but handler errors are true pain in the neck ;\

[07:52] <Voldenet> Question: is ⚛== (atomic ==) a valid operator?

[07:53] <Voldenet> m: my atomicint $x = 0; say ⚛$x == 1; say $x ⚛== 1; say $x # it clearly assigns instead of comparing, but it's not documented anywhere

[07:53] <camelia> rakudo-moar e17a1d43b: OUTPUT: «False␤1␤1␤»

[07:53] <Voldenet> I got it here https://github.com/m-doughty/Selkie/blob/master/lib/Selkie/App/Internal/Dispatch.rakumod#L403

[08:42] <lizmat> $x ⚛== 1    actually parses into

[08:43] <lizmat> RakuAST::ApplyInfix.new(

[08:43] <lizmat>     left  => RakuAST::Var::Lexical.new("\$x"),

[08:43] <lizmat>     infix => RakuAST::MetaInfix::Assign.new(

[08:43] <lizmat>       RakuAST::Infix.new("⚛=")

[08:43] <lizmat>     ),

[08:43] <lizmat>     right => RakuAST::IntLiteral.new(1)

[08:43] <lizmat>   )

[08:43] <lizmat> so it looks like it's losing the extra "=" in the parse

[08:44] <lizmat> so you're getting ⚛=  instead of  ⚛==

[08:45] <lizmat> looks like the legacy grammar has the same issue

[08:46] <lizmat> Voldenet: ^^   care to make an issue ?

[08:48] <Voldenet> sure

[08:53] <Voldenet> done, i'm not 100% sure about the title, but description is informative enough I hope https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/6873

[08:53] <lizmat> thanks!  Voldenet++