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pugscode.org/ | nopaste: sial.org/pbot/perl6 | ?eval [~] <m oo se> | We do Haskell, too | > reverse . show $ foldl1 (*) [1..4] | irclog: irc.pugscode.org/ Set by diakopter on 11 July 2007. |
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| Eidolos | so let's throw away the last seven years of implementation work and start over? >_> | 00:01 | |
| wolverian | they're not mutually exclusive.. | ||
| perl 6 is a spec, not an implementation | |||
| diakopter | Eidolos: again, :P ... there wouldn't be much that's not reusable, actually. | 00:02 | |
| Eidolos | Parrot? | ||
| diakopter | the hard work is the find-grained specifying. | ||
| (of PGE, I'm thinking of) | |||
| fine-grained | |||
| Eidolos shrugs | 00:03 | ||
| diakopter | nearly all of pugs would be reusable for #2, but yes, the REPL and unicode stuff could come directly from ghc. | 00:04 | |
| and probably other stuff I don't have in the front of my brain at the moment. | |||
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| diakopter | frankly, I think the bootstrapping step would be nigh impossible anyway, due to Perl 6's (ever-further-pervading) requirements of laziness & parallelism, and the desired-but-as-yet-unspec'ed unified concurrency/event model/api. So much cross-platform stuff would need to be reimplemented... So many functional compiler optimizations would need to be ported from ghc's bootstrapped haskell compiler source... | 00:13 | |
| based on my *vast* experience writing bootstrapping compilers LOL <eye-roll> | 00:14 | ||
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| Zoffix | diakopter, Regarding that typo in the href="". I never used `svn` before so I don't want to mess anything up. After I edit the files.. what do I do? | 01:13 | |
| Never mind. | 01:17 | ||
| diakopter | hm; how about you just nopaste the edits... sial.org/pbot/perl6 | 01:18 | |
| Zoffix | What's there to nopaste? .... | 01:19 | |
| heh | |||
| Whatever, nevermind. | |||
| pugs_svnbot | r17142 | zoffix++ | fixed 404 | 01:23 | |
| r17143 | zoffix++ | fixed 404 | |||
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17143 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17143 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| Zoffix | ewww.. trans >_< | 01:25 | |
| pugs_svnbot | r17144 | zoffix++ | fixed 404 | ||
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17144 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17144 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| Zoffix | Done | 01:27 | |
| pugs_svnbot | r17145 | zoffix++ | fixed 404 on Perl6 link | ||
| r17146 | zoffix++ | fixed 404 on Perl6 link | |||
| diff: dev.pugscode.org/changeset/17146 | |||
| lambdabot | Title: Changeset 17146 - Pugs - Trac | ||
| Zoffix | HTML code needs a major rewrite but I won't be doing it today ;) | ||
| Web "Edit Repos" is kinda broken BTW. I would submit the changes but it would say "ERROR: file is identical to the original" even though it isn't. I'd then hit F5 and it would commit :/ | 01:32 | ||
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| diakopter | Zoffix: thanks for reporting that bug with the "Edit Repos"... I'll email the vendor about it | 02:35 | |
| Zoffix: also, thanks for fixing all those regressions. :) did you add yourself to /AUTHORS ? | 02:38 | ||
| Zoffix | umm. I didn't do anything. But I am listed under "Authors" section somewhere on the site.. | 02:39 | |
| RE: bug; No problem. It might be some caching issue on your server that I suspected causing IE6 not to scroll down to #fooBar links. | |||
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| diakopter | I meant, thanks for fixing all the regressions [that you did not cause :)]. | 02:40 | |
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| diakopter | (the removed spaces) | 02:41 | |
| Zoffix | No problem. | 02:42 | |
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| Teratogen | lol | 03:50 | |
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| masak | it often seems to me that it would be possible to construct a CLI or editor tool that calculated that number after 'plan' in test files | 10:08 | |
| the Entscheidungsproblem nonwithstanding | 10:10 | ||
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| polettix | in dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/exe/E...'s_a_Given it is said that this "ancient notation": | 10:12 | |
| lambdabot | Title: Exegesis 4: Syntax - perl6: | ||
| polettix | when /^\w $/ { print "$name's on first\n" } | ||
| now would be written: | |||
| when /^ \w $/ { say "$name's on first" } | |||
| masak | polettix: yes | ||
| polettix | I couldn't help noticing that two spaces popped up in the regex | 10:13 | |
| does this mean that the /x switch is implied? | |||
| masak | polettix: yes | ||
| polettix: not sure if you can still leave out the spaces, though | |||
| polettix | masak: do you mean that /^\w... would be an error? | 10:14 | |
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| pmurias | fglock: hi ;) | 10:25 | |
| fglock | pmurias: hey | ||
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| pmurias | shouldn't binding just be assignment instead of calling 'BIND'? | 10:28 | |
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| pmurias is in a subversion free zone so dosn't have handy access to the pugs repo | 10:40 | ||
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| fglock | pmurias: it could be, after the optimization phase - but at this point we need to keep it as a real operation | 10:54 | |
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| meppl | gugu | 11:00 | |
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| masak | meppl: gugu | 11:21 | |
| polettix: I mean I don't know whether it'd be an error or not | |||
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| masak | how come localtime() works in the DateTime test, but not in the module itself? | 12:06 | |
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| polettix | masak: according to a bit of documentation I've read, not including spaces should not be a problem | 12:49 | |
| masak | polettix: good | ||
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| polettix | I would have been surprised of the contrary :) Thank you for answering, it was really something that the good ol' RTFM would have clarified in a snap | 12:50 | |
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| masak | :) | 12:51 | |
| polettix | even tough I can justify myself stating that i RTFM then :) | ||
| *though | 12:52 | ||
| masak | polettix: do you have time to help me investigate the localtime() strangeness? | 12:56 | |
| you'll notice it when you run ext/DateTime/t/basic.t | |||
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| cognominal_ | babel sploder | 18:00 | |
| oops | 18:01 | ||
| diakopter | :) | 18:04 | |
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| spinclad | perhaps it sploded the lack of babble, for a moment | 18:23 | |
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| dduncan | opinion question: supposedly the identity value of the set intersection operator is a potentially infinite-sized set ... but if you're working in an environment where only finite sets are allowed, what's the best result for a reduce over set intersection? | 19:15 | |
| eg, what should [U] return | |||
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| or should it just fail() ? | 19:16 | ||
| TimToady | maybe it should return * :) | 19:17 | |
| dduncan | whatever? | 19:18 | |
| TimToady | sounds kinda like the universal set | ||
| dduncan | so basically you're saying it should return something, and not die? | ||
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| dduncan | that's the main thing I wanted to know, return something special, vs die | 19:20 | |
| TimToady | possibly it should return the Object protoobject | 19:23 | |
| $x ~~ Object should always return true, so it is essentially the universal set | 19:24 | ||
| amnesiac | ~~~~~ | 19:29 | |
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| meppl | good night | 21:20 | |
| masak | meppl: 'night | 21:22 | |
| meppl | ;) | 21:23 | |
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| masak | the Internet is fantastic. thousands of people are connected all over the world, and can wish each other good night with second-fast communication. this can actually bring smiles to people's faces, a fact which is communicated through a semicolon and a closing paranthesis | 21:25 | |
| I think it's cool, really | 21:26 | ||
| thorat | the internet has its moments ;) | 21:27 | |
| masak | thorat: ;) | 21:28 | |
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| dduncan | opinion question: when speaking of a duration of time, does it make sense to have a negative duration, such as the result of subtracting a newer datetime from an older one? | 23:30 | |
| spinclad | sure | 23:32 | |
| dduncan | okay | ||
| spinclad | time measured in seconds or days, at least, is affine (linear but without a 0 point), as i see it | 23:34 | |
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| spinclad | time differences are linear | 23:34 | |
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| dduncan | sure, well I see no reason not to support positive and negative durations, but I realized that I hadn't so far, so I'm just checking that it's good to switch ... seems that it is | 23:45 | |
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