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The topic for #perl6 is: pugscode.org/ planetsix.perl.org/ | nopaste: sial.org/pbot/perl6 | pugs: [~] <m oo se> (or rakudo:, kp6:, elf: etc.) (or perl6: for all) | irclog: irc.pugscode.org/ Set by TimToady on 25 November 2008. |
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| bacek | pugs: token CommentContent { .* }; token Comment { '(:' <CommentContent>? ':)' }; say "(: Hi :)" ~~ / <Comment> /; say ~$/ | 00:53 | |
| p6eval | pugs: OUTPUT[Error eval perl5: "if (!$INC{'Pugs/Runtime/Match/HsBridge.pm'}) { unshift @INC, '/home/evalenv/pugs/perl5/Pugs-Compiler-Rule/lib'; unshift @INC, '/home/evalenv/pugs/third-party/Parse-Yapp/lib'; eval q[require 'Pugs/Runtime/Match/HsBridge.pm'] or die $@;}'Pugs::Runti... | ||
| bacek | perl6: token CommentContent { .* }; token Comment { '(:' <CommentContent>? ':)' }; say "(: Hi :)" ~~ / <Comment> /; say ~$/ | ||
| p6eval | rakudo 33527: OUTPUT[] | ||
| ..pugs: OUTPUT[Error eval perl5: "if (!$INC{'Pugs/Runtime/Match/HsBridge.pm'}) { unshift @INC, '/home/evalenv/pugs/perl5/Pugs-Compiler-Rule/lib'; unshift @INC, '/home/evalenv/pugs/third-party/Parse-Yapp/lib'; eval q[require 'Pugs/Runtime/Match/HsBridge.pm'] or die $@;}'Pugs::Runti... | |||
| ..elf 24166: OUTPUT[Can't locate object method "cb__RegexDef" via package "EmitSimpleP5" at ./elf_f line 1612.] | |||
| slavik | rakudo is better at grammars and such ;) | 00:55 | |
| bacek | slavik: but I expect different result... | 00:57 | |
| perl6: token CommentContent { \.* }; token Comment { '(:' <CommentContent>? ':)' }; say "(: Hi :)" ~~ / <Comment> /; say ~$/ | |||
| p6eval | rakudo 33527: OUTPUT[] | ||
| ..pugs: OUTPUT[Error eval perl5: "if (!$INC{'Pugs/Runtime/Match/HsBridge.pm'}) { unshift @INC, '/home/evalenv/pugs/perl5/Pugs-Compiler-Rule/lib'; unshift @INC, '/home/evalenv/pugs/third-party/Parse-Yapp/lib'; eval q[require 'Pugs/Runtime/Match/HsBridge.pm'] or die $@;}'Pugs::Runti... | |||
| ..elf 24166: OUTPUT[Can't locate object method "cb__RegexDef" via package "EmitSimpleP5" at ./elf_f line 1612.] | |||
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| thei0s | weird.. afaik this should work, i've written far more complexer working things in rakudo | 01:07 | |
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| bacek | rakudo: token CommentContent { <- [ '(:' | ':)']>* }; token Comment { '(:' <CommentContent>? ':)' }; say "(: Hi :)" ~~ / <Comment> /; say ~$/ | 01:12 | |
| p6eval | rakudo 33527: OUTPUT[(: Hi :)(: Hi :)] | ||
| bacek | this better :) | ||
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| thei0s | oh, i see where the problem lies... tokens are not backtracking | 01:13 | |
| (by definition) | |||
| bacek | rakudo: token CommentContent { <- [ '(:' | ':)']>* }; token Comment { '(:' <CommentContent>? ':)' }; say "(: Hi: There :)" ~~ / <Comment> /; | ||
| p6eval | rakudo 33527: OUTPUT[] | ||
| bacek | thei0s: indeed | ||
| thei0s | token CommentContent { .* <before ':)'> }; token Comment { '(:' <CommentContent>? ':)' }; say "(: Hi :)" ~~ / <Comment> /; say ~$/; | 01:14 | |
| rakudo: token CommentContent { .* <before ':)'> }; token Comment { '(:' <CommentContent>? ':)' }; say "(: Hi :)" ~~ / <Comment> /; say ~$/; | |||
| p6eval | rakudo 33527: OUTPUT[] | ||
| thei0s | rakudo: token CommentContent { .*? <before ':)'> }; token Comment { '(:' <CommentContent>? ':)' }; say "(: Hi :)" ~~ / <Comment> /; say ~$/; | 01:16 | |
| p6eval | rakudo 33527: OUTPUT[(: Hi :)(: Hi :)] | ||
| thei0s | here it is | ||
| imho thats the way to do it if you dont want to use regex | 01:17 | ||
| bacek | thei0s: yeah. Much cleaner | 01:18 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r33533 | pmichaud++ | [rakudo]: Convert an :init vtable to run at :load :init instead. | 03:20 | |
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| slavik | how do I get a length of a list? | 04:23 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r33537 | coke++ | [perl6] add a Configure.pl for perl6; use this to regenerate the Makefile. | 04:40 | |
| r33537 | coke++ | - also, regen MANIFEST. | |||
| slavik | perl6: say ?{0 == 1} | 04:41 | |
| p6eval | pugs, rakudo 33535: OUTPUT[1] | ||
| ..elf 24166: OUTPUT[0] | |||
| slavik | perl6: say ?{0 === 1} | ||
| p6eval | pugs, rakudo 33535: OUTPUT[1] | ||
| ..elf 24166: OUTPUT[0] | |||
| slavik | perl6: say ?{0 =:= 1} | ||
| p6eval | pugs, rakudo 33535: OUTPUT[1] | ||
| ..elf 24166: OUTPUT[0] | |||
| slavik | perl6: say ?{1 == 1} | ||
| p6eval | elf 24166, pugs, rakudo 33535: OUTPUT[1] | ||
| slavik | elf: say "yay" if ("abcabcabc" ~~ /abc/); | 04:42 | |
| p6eval | elf 24166: OUTPUT[yay] | ||
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| rakudo_svn | r33538 | coke++ | [perl6] - ignore more generated files (OS X) | 05:40 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r33539 | coke++ | [perl6] Convert src/gen_builtins.pir to be .include instead of inline copies. | 06:00 | |
| r33539 | coke++ | (This makes IMCC report line numbers you can fix instead of lines in a copy of a file you shouldn't edit.) | |||
| r33539 | coke++ | | |||
| r33539 | coke++ | Only issue preventing this was a missing =cut tag in one of the builtins. | |||
| r33539 | coke++ | | |||
| r33539 | coke++ | Also fixup manifest. | |||
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| rakudo_svn | r33540 | coke++ | [CAGE] pass t/distro/*meta* | 06:10 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r33541 | infinoid++ | [CAGE] Remove trailing whitespace from 5 source files. | 06:50 | |
| pugs_svn | r24167 | hinrik++ | [util/perl6.vim] more keywords, improvements to operator and variable highlighting | 06:52 | |
| rakudo_svn | r33543 | infinoid++ | [CAGE] Fix a linelength.t failure in perl6multisub.pmc | 07:00 | |
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| f00li5h | meow | 07:17 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r33546 | duff++ | [rakudo] Add :nth() and :x() flags to .subst($str,$repl) and .subst($regex,$repl) | 07:40 | |
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| slavik | moritz_: are you around? | 08:47 | |
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| ihrd | hi | 09:55 | |
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| ihrd | I have sent bugreport rt.perl.org/rt3/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=61078 | 09:55 | |
| but do not see it in the list, and addons to it (I have sent it letter) do not attached to it in RT | 09:56 | ||
| mail-list I mean | |||
| that is lost debug | 09:57 | ||
| ./perl6/src/builtins/any-list.pir:68:say "in join" | |||
| ./perl6/src/builtins/any-list.pir:76:say "in join2" | |||
| ./perl6/src/gen_builtins.pir:5394:say "in join" | |||
| ./perl6/src/gen_builtins.pir:5402:say "in join2" | |||
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| ihrd | so. that fixed in 33546 | 10:21 | |
| thank you some one | |||
| moritz_ | ihrd: RT takes very long sometimes to forward the mails | 10:22 | |
| ihrd | hai | 10:23 | |
| yes | |||
| and look like that some one is I am | |||
| bug still there in any-list.pir | |||
| I just remove it in my repo and forgot | 10:24 | ||
| svn do not croak when I pull, as git | 10:25 | ||
| moritz_ | I've removed these lines, and now I'm running spectest | ||
| if all is good, i'll commit the fix | |||
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| ihrd | thank you very much | 10:28 | |
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| riffraff | hi everyone | 10:39 | |
| rakudo_svn | r33548 | moritz++ | [rakudo] remove debugging output. Closes RT #61078. ihrd++ | 10:40 | |
| riffraff | I think I found a problem in the parser generated from parrot/tools/dev/mk_language_shell | 10:42 | |
| admittedly, it is a stub so it should not be feature complete | |||
| but I guess that the rules to match integers and string literals should be "token" | 10:43 | ||
| otherwise, by default, say "ok", " ", "foo" swallows the whitespace declaration | |||
| if someone can confirm I'm not dumb I'll submit a patch :) | 10:46 | ||
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| moritz_ | riffraff: confirmed | 10:58 | |
| riffraff | to parrotbug@ ? | 11:00 | |
| moritz_ | @parrotcode.org, or trac.parrot.org/parrot/newticket | 11:01 | |
| lambdabot | Unknown command, try @list | ||
| riffraff | oh thrre is a trac? | 11:14 | |
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| riffraff | argh, the subject got cut | 11:16 | |
| I'm too stupid. | 11:17 | ||
| thei0s | it is always good to click preview :) | ||
| riffraff | but gmail does not have preview :) | 11:19 | |
| I hope they'll soon implement something that reads your subject and tells you if it makes sense or not and warn you "oh, i guessyou missed something". It may require sufficiently advanced magic, but it would be really useful | |||
| thei0s | hm, not magic, sufficiently complex grammar :) | 11:21 | |
| riffraff | I thought it as the same thing | 11:22 | |
| ;) | |||
| (it seems impossible to change the ticket's subject once posted via email.. I'll live with it it seems) | 11:23 | ||
| btw: parrot's default REPL routine lacks, well, the "P" part? | |||
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| riffraff | the 'interactive' sub in HLLCompiler.pir seems to call '_dumper'($P0, target) if target is defined | 11:26 | |
| but, I do not understand what target is , nor dumper. Or anyway, why it's not set to some default so that for example if I run perl6 in ineractive mode i can see that 1+1 = 2 withouth prefixing everything with "say" | 11:28 | ||
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| moritz_ | riffraff: maybe target is an IO pmc? | 12:28 | |
| anyway, if you ask such questions on #parrot your chances are better to get answer | |||
| riffraff | you'r right I should ask there thanks, it's just that I started at the perl6 repl and drifted off :) | 12:29 | |
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| pugs_svn | r24168 | hinrik++ | [util/perl6.vim] complete Pod support, highlights S26-documentation.pod very nicely | 12:44 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r33550 | moritz++ | [cage] trailing whitespaces | 12:50 | |
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| rakudo_svn | r33554 | moritz++ | [cage] clean up two Configure.pl's (svn id, copyright) | 13:00 | |
| ihrd | hai | 13:01 | |
| can I get dir files list in Rakudo today somehow? | |||
| mb using inline pir? | 13:02 | ||
| moritz_ | maybe :-) | ||
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| ihrd | I use ugly workaround for list all pages in November wiki, just put it name in another one file. And just hope I can do that another way. | 13:04 | |
| Where I can find something about how to do that in PIR? | 13:05 | ||
| pugs_svn | r24169 | hinrik++ | [util/perl6.vim] reclassify one keyword, update timestamp | 13:06 | |
| moritz_ | ihrd: maybe ask in #parrot? | ||
| ihrd | ok | 13:07 | |
| masak | ihrd: greetings, compatriot. | ||
| ihrd | mortiz_: only two person on #parrot. my and lu_zero :( | 13:11 | |
| masak: hi! I wright some question to you on #november-wiki | 13:12 | ||
| masak | ah, missed that. | ||
| replying. | |||
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| riffraff | ihrd, I guess you want #parrot@irc.perl.org ? | 13:17 | |
| actually, I know that from the source files, but I think it's not advertised on the parrotcode.org website | |||
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| ruoso | Hello! | 13:20 | |
| ihrd | riffraff: oh, thank you, I just miss server :) | ||
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| riffraff | pleased to be helpful | 13:21 | |
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| pmurias | ruoso: hi | 13:28 | |
| pugs_svn | r24170 | hinrik++ | [util/perl6.vim] support embedded comments (e.g. #[ ]) | 13:30 | |
| broquaint | masak++ # A month of November. | 13:37 | |
| masak | broquaint: humble thanks. | 13:38 | |
| jnthn | masak: I often read them too, was nice. :-) | ||
| masak | woot | ||
| jnthn isn't sure he could keep up with blogging every day | |||
| masak | it was a bit stressful, yes. | 13:39 | |
| but I'll try to do it again next year. | |||
| jnthn | In November? ;-) | 13:40 | |
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| masak | jnthn: of course. :) | 13:43 | |
| ruoso | hi pmurias | 13:46 | |
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| moritz_ | masak: in case you haven't noticed, your use.perl.org is now on planetsix | 13:47 | |
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| masak | moritz_: I hadn't noticed. that's good to know, thank you. | 13:48 | |
| moritz_ | (pmichaud++ took care of that, I think) | ||
| ruoso wonder if TimToady had some time to review S07... | 13:49 | ||
| moritz_ | iirc he's traveling these days | ||
| ruoso | hmm | ||
| pmurias, have you seen Map.pm? | 13:50 | ||
| pmurias | vaguely, looking again | ||
| ruoso | pmurias, I'm considering moving it to src-s1p as "smop official prelude' | 13:51 | |
| just rework it a little to look more like actual code | 13:52 | ||
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| pmurias | ruoso: being able to have the things in the Prelude loaded would be nice | 13:54 | |
| ruoso | we need to have it compilable first ;) | 13:55 | |
| pugs_svn | r24171 | ruoso++ | [mildew][smop] Moving Map.pm to src-s1p, generic item iterator, lazy list and array iterator moved to their own files... | 14:02 | |
| pmurias | ruoso: btw. you have any ideas what smop-related thing i could implement which would count as a project for my C class? | 14:03 | |
| ruoso | well the PCL thing should worth you a A++ | 14:04 | |
| (or, in Brazillian terms, a 10) | |||
| pugs_svn | r24172 | ruoso++ | [smop] "use" statements in src-s1p will be used to find out dependencies between the files... | 14:06 | |
| rindolf | Does Rakudo have line numbers in run-time errors already? | 14:07 | |
| pmurias | a course is propably the better term as i'm at university now | ||
| s/the/a/ | |||
| ruoso | the PCL thing will probably be able to cause a good impression to any teacher | 14:08 | |
| pmurias | is really getting round to implementing it now... ;) | 14:10 | |
| ruoso | ;) | ||
| riffraff | rindolf, it seems so | ||
| rindolf | riffraff: let me see. | 14:11 | |
| ruoso | is there a standard way of naming failures/ | ||
| ? | |||
| I've just realized I had used the Java idiom on that... | |||
| OutOfItemsException | |||
| riffraff | nothingmuch, I retreat, I was wrong | 14:12 | |
| s/nothingmuch/rindolf | |||
| rindolf | riffraff: OK. | ||
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| pmurias | ruoso: is requiring a SMOP_CALLBACK_END() in functions passed to SMOP__S1P__PCLCoro_create ok? | 14:20 | |
| ruoso | well... don't you have a wrapper function already? | 14:22 | |
| it could be done in that, after the actual function returns | |||
| ruoso bbiab& | 14:23 | ||
| pmurias | ruoso: i don't have a wrapper function yet, i'm considering makeing the wrapper optional | 14:25 | |
| pugs_svn | r24173 | hinrik++ | [util/perl6.vim] a few more keywords | 14:27 | |
| ruoso | pmurias, if that makes SMOP_CALLBACK_END a requirement, I'd rather make the wrapper a requirement | 14:32 | |
| pmurias, remember... the most important use case for that is the XS modules | 14:33 | ||
| s/is/are/ | |||
| better if we could use them without modifications | |||
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| pmurias | i can always layer a wrapper providing function on top of the more general one | 14:37 | |
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| pugs_svn | r24174 | hinrik++ | [util/perl6.vim] more keyword stuff | 14:39 | |
| literal | will Perl 6 have anything like carp/croak? | 14:41 | |
| masak | literal: that seems likely. | 14:42 | |
| literal | or will warn/die automagically act like that inside methods? | 14:44 | |
| masak: which part? :) | |||
| pmurias | literal: doesn't carp/croak report errors from the perspective of the caller | 14:45 | |
| ? | |||
| literal | yeah | ||
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| masak | literal: I don't think warn/die will act like that automagically. sometimes you want the default Perl 5 behaviour. | 14:46 | |
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| literal | true | 14:47 | |
| pugs_svn | r24175 | pmurias++ | [smop] | 14:50 | |
| r24175 | pmurias++ | calling a simple c function which doesn't call back as a c routine works | |||
| r24175 | pmurias++ | added test 39 | |||
| pmurias | literal: error reports are a bit implementation specific opening up the debugger would be a valid behaviour under some circumstances | 14:52 | |
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| pugs_svn | r24176 | pmurias++ | [smop] switching between mold and pcl works | 15:08 | |
| pmurias | ruoso: the PCL is GPL'ed | 15:11 | |
| ruoso | that's ok... Perl is usually dual-licensed | 15:13 | |
| but we should probably make it optional later | |||
| pmurias | where should the PCL-smop syntax sugar live in? | 15:16 | |
| smop_pcl.h? | 15:19 | ||
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| thei0s | hm, what is the difference between $bar1 and $bar2 in this case? : class foo { has $!bar1; my $bar2; } | 19:44 | |
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| thei0s | oh, I remember.. my shares between instances | 19:49 | |
| pmurias | my $bar2 declares a normal lexical | 19:50 | |
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| slavik | moritz_: u der? | 21:22 | |
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| moritz_ | re | 21:34 | |
| masak | 're' is Latin for 'thing, affair' | 21:35 | |
| that's why reply-mails are prefixed "Re: " | |||
| slavik | I thought re meant regarding | ||
| masak | slavik: many people think that. | 21:36 | |
| slavik | moritz_: how do I do web dev with perl6? | ||
| masak | slavik: is there anything I can help you with? | ||
| slavik | is it done with here-docs like with perl5? | ||
| masak: I want to setup mod_perl6 and a test page in perl6 :) | |||
| masak | slavik: well, heredocs aren't implemented in Rakudo yet. | 21:37 | |
| slavik: have you taken a look at November wiki? | |||
| slavik | masak: I've seen the wiki itself, but not the code | ||
| masak | it's not using mod_perl6 yet, but soon | ||
| slavik | oh | ||
| masak: what does it use? fastcgi? | |||
| masak | slavik: well, in the code is the answer to how you _can_ do web dev in Perl 6, at least. :) | ||
| slavik: right now, nothing. | 21:38 | ||
| slavik | masak: so, how does november work? | ||
| masak | slavik: read from input, write to output. | ||
| slavik | masak: but how does apache know to call rakudo for perl6 pages? | ||
| masak | you have to set that up manually right now with apache. | ||
| it calls a script in the p6w/ dir | 21:39 | ||
| and the script executes Rakudo | |||
| a shell script | |||
| slavik | I see | ||
| brb, but keep typing info :) | |||
| masak | mod_perl6 will improve on that state of affairs | ||
| slavik: well, check out github.com/viklund/november/tree/ma...wiki.sh.in | 21:40 | ||
| that's basically it. | |||
| pmurias | masak: i thought a bare re refered to the re- prefix | 21:45 | |
| masak | pmurias: I have not seen such a case. | 21:46 | |
| in emails, it does mean the Latin word. | |||
| slavik | err, perl6.pbc? is that rakudo? | ||
| masak | slavik: it is. | ||
| slavik | masak: so if I have /usr/local/bin/perl6, I can just make a handler for p6 to call perl6 on it, right? | 21:47 | |
| like, in terminal I can do: perl6 code.p6 | |||
| pmurias | masak: i meant a bare re in irc | ||
| masak | pmurias: that might be. I'm not very down with IRC lingo. | ||
| slavik: sure, I guess. we chose this method to be as general as possible. | 21:48 | ||
| pmurias | neither am i | ||
| slavik | k | ||
| now, I need to figure out how to make apache do it :) | |||
| masak | I wish I knew more about that part. :) viklund++ did that. | 21:50 | |
| jhorwitz | slavik: very easy to do with mod_perl6 | 21:55 | |
| masak | yay! slavik, jhorwitz++ can help you. | ||
| slavik | jhorwitz: how do I set up apache to run perl6 code? | 21:58 | |
| and where can I get mod_perl6? | |||
| and how well does it work? | |||
| and such | |||
| jhorwitz | LOL | ||
| first, install parrot and mod_parrot (trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/ModParrot) | 22:00 | ||
| fyi, i will likely release mod_parrot 0.5 next week | |||
| slavik | k | ||
| jhorwitz | if mod_parrot's test all pass, mod_perl6 is easy. | ||
| slavik | k | 22:01 | |
| jhorwitz | i'll have more detailed docs in the release, but i'm happy to help you along until then. | ||
| slavik | k, well, I have parrot and perl6 installed | ||
| so, we got that :) | |||
| jhorwitz | and apache and the apache dev environment (includes, apxs, etc.) | 22:02 | |
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| slavik | jhorwitz: the dev packages? | 22:03 | |
| jhorwitz | yes | 22:04 | |
| slavik | k | ||
| looks like I'll be leaving soon, jhorwitz, I got a text editor open, let's run down the most basic stuff | 22:05 | ||
| so: indstalled apache and the dev packages. working parrot/perl6 | |||
| next? | |||
| checkout mod_parrot? | 22:06 | ||
| jhorwitz | check out mod_parrot from subversion | ||
| slavik | compile it and such? | ||
| jhorwitz | read the README | ||
| yes | |||
| if make test passes all tests, you should be good to go and we can work on mod_perl6 | |||
| btw, what OS? | |||
| slavik | Linux, of course | ||
| Ubuntu to be specific | |||
| 8.10 | 22:07 | ||
| jhorwitz | then you should have no problem | ||
| my development platform is debian | |||
| slavik | awesome | ||
| the sane apache defaults ;) | |||
| jhorwitz | well, i build my own... ;-) | ||
| slavik | apache? | ||
| jhorwitz trusts no one | |||
| yeah | |||
| slavik | heh | ||
| ok | |||
| jhorwitz: should use gentoo then, but anycase | |||
| jhorwitz | heh | ||
| slavik | so, build mod_parrot ... then what? | 22:08 | |
| jhorwitz | make test | ||
| if ANY tests fail, there's a big problem | |||
| slavik | make test && make; ?? | ||
| jhorwitz | make install | ||
| then make modperl6, which will precompile the mod_perl6 modules | |||
| slavik | next | 22:09 | |
| masak | @ask TimToady I'm reading S12, where it is specced that dispatch can take place on arrays containing code objects. can the array also contain arrays, and have structural recursion happen? | ||
| lambdabot | Consider it noted. | ||
| slavik | k | ||
| next | |||
| jhorwitz | that's it -- need to configure it. there's no installation process for mod_perl6 yet. i'm ripping it out of mod_parrot after 0.5. | ||
| slavik | k | ||
| wait, make modperl6, where will it place mod_perl6? | 22:10 | ||
| or you have to move it manually? | |||
| jhorwitz | nowhere -- it's just compiling the .pm files to parrot bytecode | ||
| slavik | k | ||
| jhorwitz | you can configure apache to load it in place | ||
| jhorwitz digs up a config | |||
| slavik | awesome | ||
| jhorwitz: also, sample page? ^^ | |||
| jhorwitz | actually, look in eg/perl6 in mod_parrot | 22:11 | |
| masak | rakudo: my $locator = method { .<here> }; my %h = { here => "foo" }; say %h.$locator | ||
| p6eval | rakudo 33575: OUTPUT[get_pmc_keyed() not implemented in class 'Undef'current instr.: '_block18' pc 191 (EVAL_15:73)] | ||
| slavik | ty | 22:12 | |
| jhorwitz: I'll pm my e-mail to you for the config, ok? | |||
| jhorwitz | sounds good | ||
| slavik | ty :) | ||
| also, there is a DBI module in perl6 right? | 22:13 | ||
| jhorwitz | no | ||
| slavik | :( | ||
| so, connecting to a DB is not doable? | |||
| jhorwitz | lathos hacked up a DBDI module last week, but nothing official | ||
| masak | slavik: there was some NCI work earlier this fall with SQL. | ||
| jhorwitz | it's doable, just not via an official interface yet... | 22:14 | |
| masak | slavik: it's somewhere in the Parrot repo. | ||
| very early work, IAUI | |||
| AIUI | |||
| slavik | I see postgres | ||
| masak: how does november do DB lookups and such? | |||
| masak | slavik: we're using files right now. | 22:15 | |
| slavik | ok | ||
| jhorwitz | slavik: some mod_perl6 configs are in eg/perl6 | ||
| slavik | k | ||
| hmm, what if there was an external tool thaqt would connect to DB and such? | |||
| could be like: `mysql --runquery "select blah from blah, etc."` | |||
| or something | |||
| masak thinks mysql does that | 22:16 | ||
| it even outputs XML. | |||
| slavik | k | ||
| masak | slavik: may I be so bold as to ask what it is you're building? :) | ||
| slavik | masak: Wordpress that doesn't suck :P | 22:17 | |
| masak | slavik: ah, a blog engine. | ||
| slavik | masak: no | ||
| masak: "article" engine | |||
| masak | slavik: and the difference? | ||
| slavik | where you don't have "posts and pages" that are different yet stored in the same tables | ||
| basically, something closer to what slashdot is | 22:18 | ||
| masak | I see. | ||
| slavik: best of luck to you, sir. | |||
| slavik: you might want to talk to ihrd eventually. he's planning to do a blog engine. | |||
| slavik | masak: on my blog, it is close to what I want, but I want the homepage to display the latest published stuff, like a feed basically | ||
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| slavik | also, articles can be children of other articles and such | 22:20 | |
| so that you can have like howtos and such | |||
| anyway, I'll be back ... | |||
| masak | slavik: what would the child-parent relationship imply for articles? | ||
| slavik | masak: just hierarchy | ||
| masak | ah. | ||
| slavik | so you can markup on the current page: print this articles children | 22:21 | |
| and such | |||
| so you get like a book type thing, where there is a page for a chapter and it includes the sections of that chapter | |||
| masak: look on my "blog" now, it's the Dive into Perl6 tab | |||
| bcacm.org/~slavik | |||
| soemthing like that | |||
| actually, exactly that | |||
| masak | bcacm.org/~slavik # so I can click on it from the IRC window :) | 22:22 | |
| slavik | heh | ||
| sorry | |||
| masak | np | ||
| still loading very slowly over here. | |||
| I can't see it. | |||
| slavik | masak: I even put up my grammar for URLs there :) | ||
| yeah, it does, my college network :( | |||
| masak | sounds interesting. | ||
| slavik | see if there is a google cache or something | ||
| masak | slavik: um. ok. | 22:23 | |
| slavik: you really should consider switching server. I can reach most every other page on the web. | |||
| slavik | k | ||
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| jnthn | masak: If you didn't already, please rakudobug the anonymous method failure. | 22:40 | |
| masak | jnthn: I already did. | 22:41 | |
| jnthn | I haven't done anything to explicitly make it work, but I can't think of any reasons why it wouldn't either... | ||
| Ah, great. You are efficient. :-) | |||
| masak | jnthn: hai! | ||
| jnthn | OH HAI | ||
| masak | (instead of sleeping last night like I should, I typed a lot of things from S12 into Rakudo, trying to find holes. so you have five incoming rakudobugs right now.) | 22:42 | |
| jnthn | Great. | 22:43 | |
| jnthn is trying to get as much of S12 done as possible | |||
| masak | also great. | ||
| jnthn | There's a LOT in that synopsis. | ||
| masak | mhm. | ||
| jnthn | So far I've been working on it for the last year. ;-) | ||
| masak | 哈哈 | 22:44 | |
| jnthn | It was about a year ago when I first started hacking on Rakudo. | ||
| And it wasn't long before I dug into S12 things. | |||
| Of course, it's not been a solid year of working on it. But more weeks than not. | 22:45 | ||
| masak | aye. | ||
| jnthn | (As in, more weeks I've hacked on Rakudo than not...) | ||
| It's kinda crazy thinking how much has been done, and realizing how much there is left to do... | |||
| masak | :) | ||
| I must say that it feels amazing to be part of this project, though. | 22:46 | ||
| so many things are falling in place these days. | |||
| just think when we'll have macros! :O | |||
| jnthn | Oh yes, I'm really happy I got involved. | 22:47 | |
| masak | I should hit the sack now, and maybe read some more S12. | 22:48 | |
| jnthn | Reading S12 is one thing I haven't done in bed. | 22:49 | |
| masak | I have serious sleep rythm deviations right now. | ||
| so I get a lot of reading in bed done. :/ | 22:50 | ||
| jnthn | :-| | ||
| Yeah, I'm not sleeping exactly normal hours. | |||
| Getting up at 8:30am tomorrow is going to suck. | |||
| masak | yes, I'll try to make it to church tomorrow. don't know if I'll succeed. | 22:51 | |
| jnthn | I didn't make it last week, and really want to see my friends there. | ||
| (Didn't make it last week through having a weekend in the UK) | |||
| masak | :/ | ||
| well, good luck tomorrow then. | 22:52 | ||
| jnthn | Thanks! Hopefully I make it. :-) | ||
| masak | how does one say "good bye" or "good night" in Slovak? | ||
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| jnthn | dobru noc | 22:52 | |
| masak | that's good night. | ||
| jnthn | The c is pronounced as you'd say "ts" in English | ||
| Yes. | |||
| masak | jnthn: yes, I figured :) | 22:53 | |
| jnthn | Slovak pronunciation, the soft sounds aside, is not so bad. | ||
| masak | Japan fans:Japanese::masak:slavic languages | ||
| jnthn | The morphology and grammar, OTOH, is rather tricky. | 22:54 | |
| masak | jnthn: no dualis, as in Slovenian? :) | ||
| jnthn | No, thankfully not those! | ||
| masak | :) | 22:55 | |
| jnthn | And no vocative case, as in Czech and Ukrainian. | ||
| masak | enough cases to go around anyway, I guess. | ||
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| jnthn | Yes, six is enough. | 22:55 | |
| masak | which ones? nominative, ack, dat, loc, instr...? | ||
| jnthn | Especially when you multiply them out with three genders, with masculine divided into animate and inanimate. | ||
| genitive too | 22:56 | ||
| masak | right, forgot that one. | ||
| jnthn | That's the six. | ||
| Maps closely to Russian. | |||
| masak | same as Latin then, except for s/instr/abl/ | ||
| but those are similar. | |||
| jnthn | Apart from no loc, it's called the prepositional, IIRC. | ||
| masak | aha | 22:57 | |
| jnthn | Ah, I never did look closely at Latin. | ||
| masak | anyhoo, dobru noc. | ||
| jnthn | dobru noc :-) | ||
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