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spx2 is there anything ... some kind of framework that indexes all documents on a directory and provides searching capabilities through a web front-end ? 01:17
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wayland_ spx2: written in Perl6? 02:33
Not that I know of
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literal write a cgi frontend to grep? :P 02:42
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wayland_ literal: or ack :) 03:07
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literal yes.. 03:15
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moritz_ spx2: you mean like KinoSearch? 06:35
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alester_ I am 06:49
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pasteling "Ontolog" at 59.37.36.178 pasted "match.from() returning incorrect values on zero-width match?" (28 lines, 496B) at sial.org/pbot/32945 07:00
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Ontolog moritz_: please see my pasting 07:00
moritz_ Ontolog: why should it return 3? 07:03
Ontolog: the match starts from 2, and ends at 2.
(remember, indexes are zero-based) 07:04
Ontolog it's the second match though
hmm
i see 07:05
moritz_ you tell it not to match before 2, and it does not.
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moritz_ pugs: my @l = 1, 2, 0, 0, 5, 0; say reverse [\||] @l.reverse; 10:50
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[555550ā¤]
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moritz_ pugs: my @l = 1, 2, 0, 0, 5, 0; say ([\,] @l).perl 10:55
p6eval pugs: OUTPUT[*** No such subroutine: "&prefix:[\\,]"ā¤ at /tmp/wDl6iOKyhs line 1, column 32-39ā¤]
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wayland76 rakudo: my $r = <1 2 3>; for $r -> $t { say $t }; 10:59
p6eval rakudo 31963: OUTPUT[1 2 3ā¤]
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wayland76 rakudo: my $r = <1 2 3>; $r ==> map { say $t; } 11:00
p6eval rakudo 31963: OUTPUT[Statement not terminated properly at line 1, near "==> map { "ā¤ā¤current instr.: 'parrot;PGE;Util;die' pc 129 (runtime/parrot/library/PGE/Util.pir:83)ā¤]
moritz_ rakudo doesn't do feeds yet. 11:01
wayland76 Yeah, I thought not, but I thought I'd check :)
I'm answering a question on the mailing list :) 11:02
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wayland76 ...incorrectly :) 13:20
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Ontolog moritz_: sent a patch for split on zero-width 13:26
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moritz_ Ontolog++ 13:27
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Ontolog it was tricky and i worry it might be fragile 13:28
additional test cases welcome
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pmichaud RT #60228 looks good to apply to me 14:50
(zero-width and split) 14:51
masak applies 14:52
pmichaud thanks! masak++ Ontolog++
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pugs_svn r22825 | moritz++ | [t/spec] unfudge now passing test for Str.split with zero-width matches 16:02
moritz_ Ontolog++ # again
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azawawi hi 16:04
masak azawawi: y0
azawawi hi masak, how r u doing? 16:05
masak azawawi: fine, thank you. busy week, only now regaining balance. and you?
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azawawi finished my work .. hack holiday tomorrow and sat 16:06
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masak very nice. 16:07
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pugs_svn r22826 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] refactored highlight_match() to be simpler 16:27
r22827 | lwall++ | [Cursor] start switching to mutable cursors where it makes sense (I hope) 16:29
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pugs_svn r22828 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] main(ARGV) refactoring 16:59
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pugs_svn r22829 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] converted CSS to one liners 17:44
r22829 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] redspans identifies routines and types like --simple
azawawi moritz_: ping 17:47
moritz_ azawawi: pong 17:52
azawawi moritz_: i examined pod comment output from redspans and i dont think it will be useful
moritz_ azawawi: in what way? doesn't it identify pod as such? 17:53
azawawi moritz_: nop... only '=cut' as pod, no starter token... like pod_start or something
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moritz_ azawawi: ah, but you can walk up the parse tree, and see that it's matched by pod_comment somewhere 17:55
azawawi: I have an experimental highlighting script here (based on redspans) that walks the parse tree until it finds a token name that it can handle 17:56
azawawi moritz_: that's what i basically have here in STD_syntax_highlight --redspans
moritz_ then what's wrong with it? 17:58
azawawi moritz_: nothing... ;-) 17:59
moritz_ azawawi: ok ;)
azawawi moritz_: i was only sharing ideas...
moritz_ ok ;)
TimToady =cut is not pod :)
lambdabot TimToady: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
ruoso just as a side note... it seems that merging SMOP and p5 together is a very viable idea... Coro::State already implements a great part of the job... 18:00
TimToady okay, I'll expect it to be done by Monday :) 18:01
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ruoso :P 18:01
[particle] he didn't say which monday 18:02
ruoso heh 18:03
TimToady moritz_: unrecognized =foo directives are considered standalone in p6
and =cut currently falls into that category
moritz_ tested with =begin foo ... =end foo anyway 18:04
pugs_svn r22830 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] #-comments support in --redspans 18:05
b_jonas so perl6 isn't like p5 in that =cut is the only thing that can return the perl interpreter from pod to perl 18:07
TimToady correct, =end returns to previous parse state, and standalone directives act like their own =begin/=end 18:08
b_jonas I hope there'll be a negated =begin 18:09
azawawi TimToady: what does vws and unv stand for?
b_jonas that's what I'm most missing from p5od
moritz_ vws = vertical whitespace
b_jonas because with =begin you can embed any special formatting to a pod
moritz_ b_jonas: what do you mean by "negated begin"? "don't begin here?"
[particle] negated =begin? you mean =end?
b_jonas but I still want a default
no, not =end
azawawi sample redspans output: feather.perl6.nl/~azawawi/test.pl.txt 18:10
b_jonas where =begin foo means to speak only to the pod2foo converter, =begin !foo (or some other syntax) should speak a default pod to any pod converter other than pod2foo
so your pod can be viewed by any pos converter even if it displays some features better in foo 18:11
azawawi moritz_: take a look at the link i sent earlier plz; check out =begin and =cut
TimToady unv = "un-vertical whitespace" 18:12
moritz_ b_jonas: how could you ever know that all but one POD converter can handle a special markup (or, whatever)
azawawi ;-)
TimToady azawawi: also looks like redspans is putting out ''' for single quotes, which looks bad
b_jonas moritz_: no, that part would have ordinary markup as a fallback 18:13
eg. you'd have like
=begin html foo <font color="red">bar</font> qux =end =begin !html foo B<bar> qux =end
TimToady the current language of pod markup is controlled by modules usage, just as p6 itself is 18:14
b_jonas TimToady: yes, =begin foo can be controlled by that, but =begin !foo needs to be standardized
so that if a converter does not know "foo" it would include the part in =begin !foo but not include the part in =begin foo
that is, this is an incompatible change you can't add to p5od for all the existing converters would be wrong 18:15
TimToady that may be something TheDamian is going to propose
he's got another proposal in the works
b_jonas I don't care about the exact syntax for it
TimToady anyway, STD doesn't pretend to parse real pod yet 18:16
pugs_svn r22831 | ruoso++ | [smop_highlight] outputs redspans-html by default, since it recognizes POD correctly
b_jonas STD is special, it doesn't need to know about this
TimToady esp since we don't know what real pod is yet...
b_jonas for it should ignore both =begin foo and =begin !foo
neither of them contain code
TimToady STD will need to know real pod
or it can't supply %=DATA and such 18:17
b_jonas that's a pity actually: a change only the perl interpreter needs to know about is easier to implement than one _all_ the pod2foo converters need to know about
ruoso er... it's seeing indentation white spaces as comment for some reason... 18:18
TimToady well, indentation is merely a form of commentary in p6 :P 18:19
b_jonas: it's called STD for a reason
b_jonas I mean, even if I wrote a patch for all pod2foo converters, I couldn't release modules with =begin !foo in their pod because whoever isntalls it might not have installed new versions of the pod
ruoso TimToady, the only problem is weird people like me who like comments with a different background-color than the rest of the code.../ 18:20
TimToady which they will discover as soon as they hit the =use B_Jonas_Module
azawawi moritz_: so i should find =cut <pod_comment> and move backwards until i see what =ident? 18:21
b_jonas maybe I should write the patches to all pod2foo now (how many are there? five? fifty?) and to the perldoc perlpod, and then after like eight years when no-one uses perl 5.10.0 anymore I'll be able to use it
moritz_ azawawi: dunno, I'm out of sync right now... :/
TimToady azawawi: if you find =cut, you should halt and catch fire 18:22
azawawi TimToady: ;-) please take a look at feather.perl6.nl/~azawawi/test.pl.txt
TimToady parrot even has a HCF instruction for that... 18:23
moritz_ "token on fire, please extinguish before I'll try to backtrack" 18:24
TimToady azawawi: what do you want me to see?
azawawi TimToady: =begin
b_jonas is that what !!! calls? 18:25
[particle] hrmm. std doesn't have <.hcf> yet, though 18:26
TimToady azawawi: cool, looks like ^^ is maybe busted 18:27
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azawawi the famous rx.t from STD_syntax_highlight --redspans-html => feather.perl6.nl/~azawawi/rx.t.html 18:35
lambdabot Title: ../../t/spec/S05-mass/rx.t
szabgab azawawi: on #parrot I was told to talk to you about syntax highlighting of perl6 18:37
azawawi szabgab: ok 18:38
szabgab I am trying to do that in padre, the IDE
so how do you generate thos htmls?
moritz_ szabgab: there's STD_syntax_highlight in src/perl6/ in the pugs repo 18:39
azawawi szabgab: cd pugs/src/perl6; perldoc STD_syntax_highlight
moritz_ szabgab: that runs STD.pm to generate a parse tree
for running STD.pm you need perl5.10.0, re::engine::TRE, Moose and JSON::XS
szabgab thanks, I'll take a look at that later 18:41
my main interest will be is to use perl 6 for syntax highlighting
azawawi moritz_: do we have cgi-bin enabled on feather1? 18:42
moritz_ azawawi: don't think so
azawawi szabgab: btw, i did simple javascript highlighting for runpugs for p6
moritz_ azawawi: do you want to offer an online syntax hilighter? 18:43
azawawi moritz_: ;-)
moritz_: but probably i will run off feather3
szabgab I have to go now, thanks for the pointers
azawawi moritz_: s{run}{run it} 18:44
moritz_ azawawi: that's non-trivial, because it needs write access to lex/
azawawi moritz_: "hmmm" . ("." x 5) 18:46
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TimToady thanks 18:48
azawawi: problem is STD currently requires 2 \n inside =begin/=end; fixing 18:49
azawawi TimToady: so i would get something like <pod_comment> for all of it or part of it? 18:50
szabgab trying to understand the syntax highlighter, it is perl 5, but "use"-es STD.pm which is perl6 ?
or is it too late for me ?
moritz_ szabgab: gimme5 "compiles" the Perl 6 grammar to Perl 5 code, which is then run 18:51
that compilation happens when you run 'make'
szabgab aha
pugs_svn r22832 | lwall++ | [STD] allow =begin\n=end 18:52
azawawi szabgab: take a look at STD.pm5 and STD.pmc after make in pugs/src/perl6
azawawi is typing 'svn up'
TimToady also now detects missing =end 18:53
and non-identifiers after =begin
azawawi and is cloud-computing enabled by default ;-) 18:54
TimToady but currently =begin FOO is allowed to be missing =end FOO in general
could restrict that to END and DATA, I suppose 18:55
or warn in the absence of END/DATA 18:56
azawawi perfecto, TimToady++ 18:58
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TimToady azawawi++ 18:59
pugs_svn r22833 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] add .pod_comment to the magic CSS file, TimToady++
meppl good evening
TimToady ć‚·ćƒ£ćƒÆćƒ¼ & 19:02
azawawi so who wants to dump DumpMatch.pm in favor in redspans? ;-)
moritz_: perl6.vim has problems with =begin...=end, it only understands =cut 19:05
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ruoso .oO( I just wish p5 had less magic globals ) 19:10
azawawi moritz_: btw, firefox 2.x is gonna be eol-ed soon ;-)
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azawawi ruoso: finally feather.perl6.nl/~azawawi/html_smop...OW.pm.html ;-) 19:13
lambdabot Title: ../../v6/smop/src-s1p/ClassHOW.pm, tinyurl.com/5koqf3
ruoso azawawi++ :D 19:14
azawawi nothing like good old pod... TimToady++
pugs_svn r22834 | azawawi++ | [STD_syntax_highlight] code cleanup 19:16
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azawawi sleep &, cya 19:53
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ruoso www.perlfoundation.org/perl6/index.cgi?smopp5 20:09
lambdabot Title: SMOPP5 / Perl 6 20:10
ruoso this is the secret plan on how to make perl 5.12 run Perl 6 ;P
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riffraff hi 20:19
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spx2 we are approaching perl6 ? 20:21
:D
PerlJam approach carefully so as to not wake it
spx2 PerlJam: :)) 20:22
I just want to know when it will be time to learn it
ruoso PerlJam, if you happen to have some time, please take a look at the link I just posted above :)
PerlJam spx2: the sooner you learn it the better prepared you'll be when it gets here. 20:23
spx2: plus, there are implementations that you can use today. They aren't complete, but they are very usable.
spx2 so I can become a hero by implementing in perl6 functionality already existing in perl5 ? 20:24
:D
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PerlJam ruoso: sounds like a lot of work. Also sounds like it'll make p5 even slower. (these are just my initial reactions) 20:25
ruoso in optimizers I trust ;) 20:26
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pmurias PerlJam: do you think anything from ruoso's list is particulary hard? or does it seems a lot of work as it consists of multiple steps? 22:14
lambdabot pmurias: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
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wayland76 spx2: As for when to learn Perl6, I'd say sometime between now and the end of January, depending on how complete you want it to be when you're learning it :) 23:21
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