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DrForr | .tell sena_kun Following the official (changed) installation instructions - the new invocation is 'npm install --save-dev babel-loader @babel/core', don't know how far it'll go. | 01:40 | |
tellable6 | DrForr, I'll pass your message to sena_kun | ||
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Geth | doc/master: 6 commits pushed by (JJ Merelo)++ | 06:02 | |
doc: 22505fd732 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Distribution/Path.pod6 Yep, I mistyped that. Thanks @travisci @shippable |
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synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Distribution::Path | ||
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abraxxa | Array.elems is not the best name, I tried count and size first, both don't exist | 07:02 | |
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abraxxa | sena_kun: Hi! paged works halfway, the control I get back from the ldap server after the first search always has size 0 | 07:05 | |
sena_kun | abraxxa, but is the cookie present? | 07:06 | |
tellable6 | 2019-09-16T01:40:52Z #perl6 <DrForr> sena_kun Following the official (changed) installation instructions - the new invocation is 'npm install --save-dev babel-loader @babel/core', don't know how far it'll go. | ||
abraxxa | sena_kun: it seems so | ||
sena_kun | abraxxa, 0 as size is normal and server may do so if they can't estimate, at least the RFC says so | 07:07 | |
abraxxa, so you just iterate as long as there is a cookie to work with | |||
abraxxa | sena_kun: but then the loop ends | ||
discord6 | <Aearnus> abraxxa: Perl 6 should tell you the correct name of array.elems if you accidently put any of those other names | ||
sena_kun | abraxxa, how so? it shouldn't unless the cookie length is zero | ||
abraxxa | I missed the loop { in my code | 07:08 | |
last unless $control.cookie.elems; doesn't seem to check if its inside a loop | |||
sena_kun | m: last if 42; | 07:10 | |
evalable6 | (exit code 1) ===SORRY!=== last without loop construct |
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sena_kun | maybe something else was related | ||
abraxxa | sometimes it works, sometimes it stops after the first search already | 07:11 | |
it stops when cookie => Blob.new() | 07:12 | ||
so when the cookie is empty | |||
the control-value is way shorter when that happens but I guess you extract the cookie from the control-value | 07:13 | ||
sena_kun | yes | ||
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abraxxa | sena_kun: any idea why that happens? | ||
sena_kun | what exactly? | ||
ah, why is it unstabale... no idea | 07:16 | ||
maybe the difference can be spot with two CRO_TRACE=1 logs compared? | |||
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abraxxa | sena_kun: ASN_BER_PARSER_DEBUG shows that the last search which returns entries does also return a cookie, the next one doesn't return entries and also no cookie | 07:20 | |
sena_kun: K00002040: SvcErr: DSID-031403B2, problem 5010 (UNAVAIL_EXTENSION) | 07:22 | ||
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lizmat | weekly: perl6.eu/pokemon-chiao.html | 07:48 | |
notable6 | lizmat, Noted! (weekly) | ||
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p9s | how to start convert perl5 module to perl6? | 14:15 | |
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tadzik | hmmm... one line at a time? | 14:19 | |
any module in particular you're thinking of? | |||
depending on the module, it may make more sense to just rewrite it from scratch, in which case you may want to start with the testsuite | 14:20 | ||
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lizmat | p9s: opensource.com/user_articles/238941/238941 has a list of blog posts about things you might encounter | 14:22 | |
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p9s | #lizmat thanks for you message | 14:32 | |
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abraxxa | lizmat: an article about error handling would be great! | 14:58 | |
lizmat | abraxxa: I've decided to not write any more articles in that series | 14:59 | |
abraxxa | lizmat: why? | ||
I haven't seen them before and will read them when time permits | |||
lizmat | long story | 15:03 | |
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masak .oO( the reason I'm not writing long stories is a long story ) | 15:18 | ||
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lizmat | and yet another Perl 6 Weekly hits the Net: p6weekly.wordpress.com/2019/09/16/...essinging/ | 15:41 | |
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scimon | lizmat++ | 15:49 | |
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El_Che | thx lizmat | 16:10 | |
moritz | lizmat++, twoot | 16:23 | |
timotimo | lizmat++ | ||
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Xliff | \o | 16:26 | |
tellable6 | 2019-09-14T13:20:26Z #perl6 <SmokeMachine> Xliff: I've made a few changes... but what do you think? fco.github.io/Red/api/Red | ||
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Xliff | Can someone tell me how to use $?RESOURCES properly? | 16:51 | |
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Voldenet | Xliff: docs.perl6.org/language/modules has demo of it | 17:00 | |
> %?RESOURCES<templates/default-template.mustache>.slurp; | 17:01 | ||
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Voldenet | lizmat: p6weekly.wordpress.com/2019/09/16/...essinging/ has broken link to github.com/perl6/doc/issues/2983 | 17:07 | |
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cpan-p6 | New module released to CPAN! LibXML (0.0.8) by 03WARRINGD | 17:18 | |
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lizmat | Voldenet++ #$ fixed | 17:32 | |
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Geth | ¦ problem-solving: vrurg assigned to AlexDaniel Issue Decision to be taken on Raku filename extensions. github.com/perl6/problem-solving/issues/106 | 18:02 | |
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Doc_Holliwood lols at an error message | 18:07 | ||
"Cannot negate (^) because junctive or operators are not iffy enough" | 18:08 | ||
timotimo | m: say 1 !(^) 2 | ||
camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Cannot negate (^) because junctive or operators are not iffy enough at <tmp>:1 ------> 3say 1 !7⏏5(^) 2 expecting any of: infix infix stopper |
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timotimo | c: say 1 ![(^)] 2 | ||
committable6 | timotimo, Seems like you forgot to specify a revision (will use “v6.c” instead of “say”) | ||
timotimo | m: say 1 ![(^)] 2 | ||
camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Cannot negate [(^)] because junctive or operators are not iffy enough at <tmp>:1 ------> 3say 1 ![7⏏5(^)] 2 expecting any of: bracketed infix infix infix st… |
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timotimo | huh. | ||
i mean, it does return a set | |||
committable6 | timotimo, gist.github.com/93f9923c13a276b32d...fc1cd6a9b7 | 18:09 | |
timotimo | which is not really a thing you can sensibly negate in perl6 | ||
Doc_Holliwood | I thought it might just do the opposite then | ||
magic ^^ | |||
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timotimo | is (^) symmetric difference? isn't the opposite of that the (&)? | 18:10 | |
Doc_Holliwood | I'm looking at the weekly. I have a solution with map, easy enough, but I'm looking for something that uses sets or bags | 18:11 | |
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timotimo | the weekly challenge? | 18:11 | |
Doc_Holliwood | yeah, the first task. basically, two lists, count one for every occurance of a in b, return the sum | 18:12 | |
if i read it right, the question is not entirely clear. | |||
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Geth | doc: 96ffda77f5 | Coke++ | xt/words.pws track meta variant changes |
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Doc_Holliwood | m: sub foo( $foo ) {}; [1,2].map: foo(*) | 19:56 | |
camelia | Cannot map a Array using 'Nil' Did a * (Whatever) get absorbed by a list? in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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Doc_Holliwood | m: sub foo( $foo ) {}; [1,2].map( foo(*) ) | 19:57 | |
camelia | Cannot map a Array using 'Nil' Did a * (Whatever) get absorbed by a list? in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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Doc_Holliwood | I'm getting "Cannot resolve caller Numeric(WhateverCode:D: ); none of these signatures match" on my system | ||
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Grinnz wonders if ugexe realizes the irony in derailing an issue with comments about derailment ;) | 20:03 | ||
El_Che | and about the derailing about the derailing of the derailing? | 20:04 | |
I don't get the bikeshedding remark. It's a pretty to the point issue | |||
Grinnz | and the reason separate issues weren't opened for the name is that the name was already discussed without much core disagreement in the main issue | 20:05 | |
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Grinnz | mostly before it exploded, too | 20:05 | |
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Doc_Holliwood | hastebin.com/idemojuyuf.pl, my entry for the weekly | 20:15 | |
can it get more rakuish? | 20:16 | ||
mmh. perlish sounds better, but that is an edge case ^^ | |||
maybe omit the u and just say "rakish"? | 20:17 | ||
Grinnz | that's already a word, and not a good connotation | ||
rakuic? rakulike? | 20:18 | ||
[Coke] | it's not bad, strictly speaking. | ||
Grinnz | true, it could be what you're going for in context | 20:19 | |
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AlexDaniel | vrurg: “rakish”, you're going to love that :P :P | 20:27 | |
Grinnz suddenly craves radishes | 20:28 | ||
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[Coke] | radicchio | 20:38 | |
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Doc_Holliwood | m: say $*PERL; | 20:55 | |
camelia | Perl 6 (6.d) | ||
Doc_Holliwood | m: say $*DISTRO; | 20:56 | |
camelia | opensuse (42.3) | ||
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guifa | I know it’s possible to do custom exporting of symbols, but is there a way to do that based on the arguments passed in the use statement? | 20:56 | |
guifa is thinking along the lines of, use Units::Operators :SI :length; that would import SI length units (m, km, etc) vs Units::Operators :US :length; that would import American lengths instead | 20:58 | ||
Doc_Holliwood | hold on | 20:59 | |
i'm working on exactly that | |||
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Doc_Holliwood | github.com/holli-holzer/perl6-Units-Prefixes, github.com/holli-holzer/perl6-Units | 21:00 | |
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Doc_Holliwood | uh, two years already. time flies. i'm not sure, but i think the code was pretty complete | 21:01 | |
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Doc_Holliwood | what it does is, it has a bunch of unit classes like Units::Watt that have a symbol attribute, which gets exported so you can write "120W" and get an class Units::Watt with a value of 120 | 21:04 | |
guifa | Someone else recently had one like that too, I was going to add on operators for them all for the module | 21:06 | |
Doc_Holliwood | also: ok( 8A * 2Ω = 20V ); does work | 21:07 | |
tellable6 | Doc_Holliwood, I'll pass your message to also | ||
guifa | ^^ lol @ tellable | 21:08 | |
Doc_Holliwood | if that someone was xliff, he has commit bits on this | ||
16V of course | |||
and == | |||
guifa | No, it was a totally different module, It as p6steve on GH, not sure what he goes by on #perl6 | ||
Doc_Holliwood | stackoverflow.com/questions/471361...-operators | 21:09 | |
guifa | Although looking at how both of y’all’s modules have been done internally, I may actually write a third one based on the work that I’ve been doing with CLDR. Maybe overkill, but better to have leaner ones like yours for normal stuff and a heavier one for when localization stuff is necessary | 21:10 | |
Doc_Holliwood | Or I give you a commit bit and you expand on what is already working | 21:14 | |
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Doc_Holliwood | we should try to avoid rank growth when we can methinkss | 21:16 | |
guifa | I agree. What it might end up being is a collaboration between two modules | 21:17 | |
Doc_Holliwood | in the module ecosystem I mean | ||
guifa | Intl::Units and Units::* | ||
(or even Intl::CLDR::Units, I’m not 100% on my final organization of CLDR data yet) | |||
It’s unfortunately going to be a hot minute before I can delve back into the CLDR package because dissertation deadlines, but when I do I’ll do a mock up of a module with, say, just lengths, and then see how to merge that into Units::* | 21:19 | ||
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AlexDaniel | alright time to delete these nicks from its db :D | 21:19 | |
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guifa shakes fist at whoever registered "also" | 21:27 | ||
Such a ruined joke | |||
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Doc_Holliwood | sure, let me know if you need something changed, put in place of have other suggestions | 21:31 | |
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Xliff *un-zzz*s | 21:36 | ||
Wha? wazzis about bits? Are them those polygons that get spikey when they go "NO!" ? | 21:37 | ||
Doc_Holliwood: That's a bit funny. I was just looking at that module recently. Don't know if it's still being actively worked on. | 21:39 | ||
I do have the afforementioned bit, so if a collab is in the works, I'm game. | |||
Still. An attempt to notify the maintainer would be appreciated. | |||
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Doc_Holliwood | That would be me | 21:44 | |
I got ... side trackes | |||
tracked* | |||
Xliff | Ah. | ||
So what's up? | |||
(I got side-tracked too... see my pinned projects on GitHub) | 21:45 | ||
guifa | Xliff: convo just picked up because I was looking at someone else’s module and was looking to add in operators so that 1kg + 500m returns 1.5kg etc. D_H has a similar module. I think it might be nice to eventually get a localized units module. The CLDR has tons of related data | 21:47 | |
(for example github.com/holli-holzer/perl6-Unit...s/Acre.pm6 has attributes for singular, plural, and symbol, and would be cool to have an ability to link that to CLDR to provide single/dual/plural/paucel/etc with long short narrow forms) | 21:48 | ||
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guifa | see, for instance, st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/ja/Length/ | 21:51 | |
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Doc_Holliwood | I see. It would be a good idea then to rename the stringy methods of unit (and add some) methods to `Units::Unit` then. | 22:01 | |
I'm tired. That shows in broken sentences like the former. But you got me. | 22:02 | ||
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vrurg | AlexDaniel: beer with rakish? ;) | 22:05 | |
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AlexDaniel | guifa: it wasn't exactly registered, it was a misfeature in the previous bot that allowed to send to nonexistent names | 22:07 | |
guifa: tellable6 acquired the db of the previous bot, so now it thinks that “also” was a real nickname | |||
Xliff | guifa: OK, then it sounds like you are on. | 22:08 | |
Let me know if you need any help. | |||
guifa has a lot of ideas for using the CLDR stuff | 22:11 | ||
Like exporting a regex for units | |||
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guifa | my $foo /… <unit(:length)>…/ | 22:12 | |
“blah blah blah 5km blah blah blah” ~~ $foo | |||
could match 5km and maybe even offer up an action for turning it into a unit | 22:13 | ||
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Xliff | guifa: Keep me posted on the progess. I kinda like the idea of a module that would work with Units::SI and offer localized alternatives! | 23:01 | |
guifa | Xliff: this is more long term planning / ideas. I’m in a crunch period with the PhD :-( | 23:02 | |
guifa grumbles about javascript being horrid and annoying and not liking it at all lol | |||
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Xliff | hhahahaha! I totally agree, guifa | 23:04 | |
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