»ö« Welcome to Perl 6! | perl6.org/ | evalbot usage: 'p6: say 3;' or rakudo:, or /msg camelia p6: ... | irclog: irc.perl6.org or colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_logs/perl6 | UTF-8 is our friend! Set by moritz on 22 December 2015. |
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timotimo | oh, sorry | 00:07 | |
.tell thowe :1day and friends are colonpairs, because they start with a colon and are syntax for Pair objects (or more often named arguments) | 00:08 | ||
yoleaux | timotimo: I'll pass your message to thowe. | ||
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Geth | rakudo.org: eb1cb34305 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 2 files Pritify RAM warning |
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Geth | rakudo.org: ff63eab5dd | (Zoffix Znet)++ | templates/files-star-source.html.ep List WSL in build from sauce |
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Geth | rakudo.org: 86ef2ae6fb | (Zoffix Znet)++ | app.pl Remove unneeded module |
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rakudo.org: 3cb75437df | (Zoffix Znet)++ | Build.PL Add build file |
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thowe | perl6 screencasts says bad gateway... perl6maven.com/introduction-to-perl...st-scalars | 00:53 | |
yoleaux | 00:08Z <timotimo> thowe: :1day and friends are colonpairs, because they start with a colon and are syntax for Pair objects (or more often named arguments) | ||
lookatme | :) | ||
thowe | Neat. I've been mesaged. I feel loved. | ||
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AlexDaniel | m: say 2…sin => 42 | 01:07 | |
camelia | (2) | ||
AlexDaniel | what is going on here? | 01:08 | |
timotimo | m: say +(sin => 42) | 01:09 | |
camelia | Cannot resolve caller Numeric(Pair: ); none of these signatures match: (Mu:U \v: *%_) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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timotimo | m: say 0…sin => 42 | ||
camelia | (0 1) | ||
timotimo | it interprets it as 1 | ||
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AlexDaniel | timotimo: so the pair ends up being 1, okay… but why does it attempt to call sin on 2, and then doesn't do that anyway? | 01:10 | |
m: say 2…blah => 42 | 01:11 | ||
camelia | No such method 'blah' for invocant of type 'Int'. Did you mean 'flat'? in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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AlexDaniel | m: say ‘2’…blah => 42 | ||
camelia | No such method 'blah' for invocant of type 'Str'. Did you mean 'flat'? in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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timotimo | oh, so it's smart matching | ||
in that case it'll compare the bool results of ?42 and ?the-number | |||
(i'm not happy about that either) | 01:14 | ||
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thowe | Why isn't there a Perl6 shirt that says "Optimized for Fun!" | 01:24 | |
lookatme | :) T shirt ? | 01:25 | |
good idea | |||
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TEttinger | after you sell that one you could make shirts with that NYC subway rat eating a whole piece of pizza and have the text, A FatRat is Simply Rational | 01:35 | |
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er2 | ~ § zef install Bailador ===> Searching for: Bailador ===> Searching for missing dependencies: Digest, Digest::HMAC, File::Directory::Tree, File::Find, File::Temp, HTTP::Easy, HTTP::MultiPartParser, HTTP::Server::Ogre, HTTP::Status, JSON::Fast, Log::Any, Path::Iterator, Template::Mojo, Template::Mustache, Terminal::ANSIColor, URI, URI::Encode, YAMLish, TAP::Harness ===> Failed to find dependencies: JSON::Fast Failed to find some require | 01:42 | |
any ideas? | |||
thowe | I almost forgot about Template::Mojo... | ||
er2 | is there a way to do a <pre> block in irc? | 01:43 | |
thowe | mm, maybe use a gist? | ||
and link to it? | 01:44 | ||
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AlexDaniel | huggable: paste | 01:44 | |
huggable | AlexDaniel, Please do not paste large pieces of code here. camelia supports gist.github.com/ , gitlab.com/snippets and bitbucket.org/snippets | ||
er2 | gist.github.com/er2/f64b87ef6ef755...25d33a11b2 | ||
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thowe | Bailador and Cro?! Riches! | 01:47 | |
AlexDaniel | er2: zef --force install zef | ||
er2: that's according to alert #3 here: alerts.perl6.org/alert/3 | |||
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er2 | thanks, but now we go further down the rabbit hole gist.github.com/er2/57ed5101b82927...ee19cd5d0a | 01:50 | |
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AlexDaniel | hmm… | 01:53 | |
er2: are you using rakudo star? | 01:55 | ||
or how did you install zef? | |||
lookatme | zef --cpan install Bailador | ||
er2 | AlexDaniel: I'm installed perl6 and zef via the debian sid repo | 01:56 | |
lookatme | or I think you can trying install JSON::Fast manually | ||
timotimo | that error for "zef --force install zef" looks like something is trying to treat a list of file names as a single file name | ||
so it's getting the file names separated by spaces as "the file name" | 01:57 | ||
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timotimo | i'd say grabbing zef via a tarball would be a good idea | 01:57 | |
AlexDaniel | there's no zef in debian repos | 01:58 | |
timotimo | i see there's no download link from modules.perl6.org directly to cpan dist tarballs | ||
anyway, i GTG. good luck! | |||
er2 | AlexDaniel: correct, it's the rakudo package | 01:59 | |
I actually have an older package than what's currently in sid. I'll try updating it. | 02:02 | ||
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AlexDaniel | yea let's try that | 02:02 | |
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er2 | so I updated to 2018.02.1, remembered that I had originally installed zef from github, so I did a git pull in that repo and installed zef again, and deleted .perl6 and it looks like I'm back on track | 02:15 | |
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buggable | New CPAN upload: AWS-Session-0.1.tar.gz by HANENKAMP cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/H/HA/...0.1.tar.gz | 03:41 | |
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buggable | New CPAN upload: HTTP-Request-FormData-0.1.tar.gz by HANENKAMP cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/H/HA/...0.1.tar.gz | 05:21 | |
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Kaiepi | is there an equivalent to $*FILE that's available at compile-time? | 06:22 | |
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moritz | $?FILE iirc | 06:51 | |
m: say $?FILE | |||
camelia | <tmp> | ||
moritz | fudged out on camelia, but does what you want | ||
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Kaiepi | alright, now i get a different error when i try to change the directory | 06:58 | |
Failed to change the working directory to '/usr/home/morfent/Documents/p6-RakudoBot/lib/RakudoBot/Config.pm6 (RakudoBot::Config)../../': does not exist | 06:59 | ||
i think i just need to resolve the path, but i'm not sure how | |||
oh forgot to make it chdir "{$?FILE.IO.dirname}../..", but that still doesn't work | 07:01 | ||
changing it to chdir $?FILE.IO.dirname; chdir '../../'; works, but i'd rather do it from just one call to chdir | 07:02 | ||
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El_Che | chdir $?FILE.IO.dirname ~ '../..' | 07:04 | |
? | |||
Kaiepi | chdir $?FILE.IO.dirname.IO.parent.parent works | 07:05 | |
*chdir $?FILE.IO.parent.parent.parent | 07:06 | ||
i guess $?FILE.IO.dirname.IO.parent.parent would be clearer though | |||
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El_Che | aren't you forgetting a slash? | 07:10 | |
before the .. | |||
dirname does not give you a ending separator | 07:11 | ||
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Geth | doc: 1f735c2eb1 | (JJ Merelo)++ | 4 files Adds Camelia back And it's faded, and maybe a bit bigger than intended. Also some stuff for making the website work locally. Closes #646. If you want a smaller Camelia, open another issue. |
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stmuk_ | "In the autumn, we started work on our next Perl 6 product – which we’ll be announcing in just a couple more weeks" | 09:19 | |
wooo | |||
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El_Che | I bet on something Cro based | 09:20 | |
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moritz | a wordpress killer! :-) | 09:41 | |
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moritz | (ftr I have no insider info, just bullshitting here) | 09:44 | |
El_Che | moritz: actually, it could, there isn't much on that front on the wider Perl world | ||
with all respect, but take a look at blogs.perl.com | |||
or org | 09:45 | ||
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El_Che | "Unnamed inside and well informed sources confirmed (some of them published books about the subject) informed us that..." | 09:46 | |
:) | 09:47 | ||
tyil | how can I specify a version for a dependency in META6 where I want at least a given version, say 1.2.3, but not a higher major release version | 09:56 | |
so 1.3.0 is also accepted, but 2.0.0 is not | |||
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buggable | New CPAN upload: Perl6-Tidy-y.tar.gz by JGOFF cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/J/JG/...y-y.tar.gz | 10:41 | |
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buggable | New CPAN upload: Perl6-Tidy-0.0.2.tar.gz by JGOFF cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/J/JG/...0.2.tar.gz | 10:51 | |
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pmurias | jnthn: what's the plan for the Perl 6 debugger frontend? Hook it up to an existing debugger or write a custom one? | 10:59 | |
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jnthn | pmurias: I suspect both will happen, though later today we should get a basic custom one pushed to the module ecosystem | 11:03 | |
pmurias | jnthn: thanks, I was thinking about how the js backend debugging story should fit into this | 11:05 | |
jnthn | pmurias: I figure v8 already has debug API stuff, and JVM certainly does. I suspect it'll be easiest to just use those as the basis for anything, since these things seems to need to be close to the VM | 11:10 | |
lichtkind | jnthn, o/ | 11:15 | |
jnthn | o/ lichtkind | 11:17 | |
lichtkind | does colomon show up from time to time? | ||
jnthn | .seen colomon | 11:21 | |
yoleaux | I saw colomon 6 Feb 2018 17:45Z in #perl6: <colomon> ecocode: ^ my example works on your junction notion. but I’d definitely prefer Set where applicable. | ||
jnthn | Seems so :) | 11:22 | |
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lichtkind | jnthn, thanks | 11:25 | |
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tbrowder_ | Zoffix: my run of your Toaster has been running sinse midday yeterday on my 4-core box. one process has been running for hours. is there a way to set a max time for a single process/test? | 11:52 | |
yoleaux | 13 Mar 2018 11:15Z <stmuk_> tbrowder_: thanks | ||
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Zoffix | tbrowder_: I mentioned that 7 days ago: irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6-dev/2018-...i_15894723 | 11:54 | |
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Zoffix | It's supposed to kill them after 10 minutes already but doesn't. You could figure out why Proc::Async.kill doesn't always kill | 11:55 | |
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Zoffix | m: say 2*(64/4) | 11:55 | |
camelia | 32 | ||
tbrowder_ | ok, thnx | ||
Zoffix | tbrowder_: also toasting two commits takes about 2hr on my 64-core box. Based on math above, it'd take 32hr on 4-core box | 11:56 | |
kalkin-- | How do I declare that a sub/method returns an Array of Ints? | ||
Zoffix | kalkin--: that's a bit ambiguous. An Int-typed Array or an Array containing Int objects only? | 11:57 | |
kalkin-- | Int-typed Array | ||
Zoffix | Oh it ain't parsing right :o | 11:58 | |
kalkin-- | Array[Int], should work shouldn't it? | ||
Zoffix | Ah no, I just had a typo | ||
kalkin--: right, it's just Array[Int] | |||
m: sub (--> Array[Int]) { Array[Int].new: 1, 2 }() | 11:59 | ||
camelia | ( no output ) | ||
Zoffix | m: sub (--> Array[Int]) { [<a b c>] }() | ||
camelia | Type check failed for return value; expected Array[Int] but got Array ($["a", "b", "c"]) in sub at <tmp> line 1 in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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Zoffix | Seems to work | ||
jnthn | m: sub (--> Array of Int) { Array[Int].new: 1, 2 }() | ||
camelia | ( no output ) | 12:00 | |
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jnthn | Can also write it like that, if you find it more readable :) | 12:00 | |
Zoffix | m: subset ArrayWithInts of Array where .all ~~ Int; sub (--> ArrayWithInts) { [1, 2, 3] }() # The "Array containing Int objects only" version | ||
camelia | ( no output ) | ||
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phdphil_ | Just FYI there's a codegolf challenge which appeals to Perl6's love of Unicode, so I answered it: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questio...098#158098 | 12:01 | |
kalkin-- | thanks guys. | ||
jnthn Array of is much nicer, thanks | |||
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jnthn bbl | 12:04 | ||
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tbrowder_ | Zoffix: did you consider using proc::async::timeout? | 12:10 | |
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Zoffix | tbrowder_: no, because that module just uses .kill and I can do that myself. | 12:25 | |
tbrowder_: you can try using SIGKILL instead of SIGTERM/SIGSEGV in Proc::Q. I'm fairly sure I tried already that when I wrote that module, but maybe it works better now. | |||
tbrowder_ | did you try using any other signals except sigsegv? | 12:26 | |
i’ll try sigkill | 12:27 | ||
there are some notes in man pages about orphans and such depending on wait, blah blah | 12:28 | ||
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titsuki | I wonder if Perl6-China is an official one. | 12:51 | |
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buggable | New CPAN upload: App-Mi6-0.1.4.tar.gz by SKAJI cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/S/SK/...1.4.tar.gz | 12:51 | |
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pmurias | titsuki: what's Perl6-China? | 12:55 | |
titsuki | pmurias: github.com/Perl6-China | ||
this one | |||
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Kaiepi | xs vaxy | 13:13 | |
shit wc | |||
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[Coke] | phdphil_: if I do perl6 -pe '<paste that snippet>' I get a syntax error. | 13:24 | |
lizmat | [Coke]: you need to double quote the string | 13:28 | |
[Coke] | gist.github.com/coke/96a2c57bc24e3...9910006ced | ||
lizmat | perl6 -pe 'chr("🂱🃁🂡🃑".ords[$_/13]+($_+1)%13).uniname.substr(13)' | ||
hmmm... that somehow lost the string :-( | 13:29 | ||
phdphil_ | Perl's abilities with Unicode surpass most online tools... | ||
This is what I was testing with: glot.io/snippets/ez5sj8wvzq | 13:30 | ||
Maybe there's a new quip when you see a Unicode bug: Should have written that in Perl6 | |||
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phdphil_ | I crashed Windows trying to run it on my box, I didn't dare paste it here | 13:31 | |
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phdphil_ | Also I had to update from that one, I hadn't noticed that Unicode has Jack, Knight, Queen... | 13:33 | |
Geth | rakudo.org: ce88e19684 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | hyp Add hypnotoad starter script |
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rakudo.org: 8f7253df08 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | .gitignore Ignore build temporaries |
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rakudo.org: 17a18073ce | (Zoffix Znet)++ | Build.PL Add more prereqs |
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lizmat | .oO( I can't stop looking ) |
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.oO( all hail hypnotoad ) |
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[Coke] | phdphil_: that second one just hangs on me. | ||
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phdphil_ | One thing I struggled with was getting the substring from char 13 in PLAYING CARD TWO OF HEARTS | 13:37 | |
dogbert2_ | hypnotoad, someone is doing stuff in Mojolicious | ||
phdphil_ | Feels like there should be a pattern match on the second space, but my brain | ||
[Coke] | m: for ^get() {say chr('🂱🃁🂡🃑'.ords[$_/13]+(($_+1)%13)*1.091).uniname.substr(13);} | ||
camelia | Cannot convert string to number: base-10 number must begin with valid digits or '.' in '3⏏5»Wann treffen wir drei wieder zusamm?«' (indicated by ⏏) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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[Coke] | doc site now has two camelias. | 13:38 | |
lizmat | dogbert2_: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recu...#Hypnotoad was my reference | ||
[Coke] | one that vanishes if you widen the port size | ||
and it's striped on docs.perl6.org/type.html | 13:39 | ||
this with a recent chrome on os x | |||
dogbert2_ | lizmat: thx | ||
[Coke] | phdphil_: what version of rakudo are you using with these examples? (they all fail for me) | 13:40 | |
oh. the second example is really "echo 51 | perl6 -e '...'" | |||
jkramer | What was that input above? o_O | 13:41 | |
Geth | rakudo.org: a20ed7c59b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | README.md Add installation instructions |
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rakudo.org: 20cefc7c38 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 2 files Add config file |
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rakudo.org: cb828c9af4 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | README.md Add installation instructions |
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jkramer | m: say get | 13:41 | |
camelia | »Wann treffen wir drei wieder zusamm?« | ||
jkramer | m: say lines.head(3) | ||
camelia | (»Wann treffen wir drei wieder zusamm?« »Um die siebente Stund‘, am Brückendamm.« »Am Mittelpfeiler.«) | ||
[Coke] | (camelia) ah, found the ticket. | ||
jkramer | Fontane Theodor? :D | 13:42 | |
Well switch first/last name, that's copy paste from www.pinselpark.org/literatur/f/font...effen.html | |||
Where does it come from? | |||
AlexDaniel | you mean this? github.com/perl6/evalbot/blob/master/stdin | 13:49 | |
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[Coke] | I still occasionally get "Use of uninitialized value $repo-id of type Any in string context" when running 'make xtest' in doc; if I "rm -rf lib/.precomp", everything is then quiet and fine. | 13:51 | |
jkramer | Ah ok :D | ||
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Geth | doc: 767288b30c | (JJ Merelo)++ | html/images/Camelia-faded.svg Hiding small Camelia behind big camelia refs #646 |
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marketing: c1359eaf04 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 4 files Add more camelia variants |
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mr_ron | m: gist.github.com/ronaldxs/39ddd9a5e...722f4fb0c3 | 14:02 | |
camelia | 1..10 ok 1 - normal attribute ok 2 - normal attribute ok 3 - can't change a non-rw attribute ok 4 - attribute didn't change value ok 5 - mutator not called yet ok 6 - faked object construction ok 7 - accessor was called ok 8 - mutator … |
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tbrowder_ | Zoffix: i’m trying to test Proc::Q on my new deb 9 host aand | 14:03 | |
mr_ron | Still looking at RT 126198. Is there any actual ADVANTAGE to using a method for proxy FETCH/STORE over a sub($)/sub ($, $new) or is it just tradition? | 14:05 | |
synopsebot | RT#126198 [new]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=126198 [BUG] Defining a Proxy with methods instead of subs leads to surprising results in Rakudo | ||
tbrowder_ | and it fails the 01- basic* test. it is a slow box, so do i need to tweak some time values? note that this is an unmodified version from github | ||
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[Coke] | huh. 'make xtest' has lately been hanging my box. freezes my terminal window, can't open any new terminal windows. | 14:06 | |
(docs) | |||
wonder if maybe if one of the tests is wonky. | 14:07 | ||
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stmuk_ | does the GPW get live streamed? | 14:20 | |
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tbrowder_ | it fails on my deb 8 host also | 14:21 | |
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moritz | stmuk_: typically not | 14:29 | |
stmuk_ | ah I shall to have to be patient and wait for youtube | 14:31 | |
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Geth | doc: 1c4981d069 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 8 files Fix issues with Camelia images - Hide faded Camelia on home page - Reduce opacity on faded Camelia - Use SVG Camelia on home page instead of PNG - Made table rows transparent to prevent chopping up faded Camelia BG into slices |
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Geth | doc: c999424e7b | (Zoffix Znet)++ | htmlify.p6 Use better content class for fragment pages |
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doc: 088815c090 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | htmlify.p6 Fix content class generator syntax error |
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doc: 53432f19fb | (Zoffix Znet)++ | assets/sass/style.scss Give content min-height Otherwise faded Camelia gets chopped on small-content pages |
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[Coke] | news.perlfoundation.org/2018/03/ric...-for-.html | 15:10 | |
Geth | doc: dace3b5ff7 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | template/head.html Flush CSS cache |
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travis-ci | Doc build passed. Zoffix Znet 'Give content min-height | 15:16 | |
travis-ci.org/perl6/doc/builds/353372382 github.com/perl6/doc/compare/08881...432f19fb2a | |||
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tbrowder_ | [Coke]: has my CLA shown up yet? | 15:18 | |
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[Coke] | I have gotten no notifications about it, no. | 15:24 | |
I'll ask on the tpf slack | |||
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[Coke] | (it's not in the google sheet where such things are stored) | 15:26 | |
El_Che | releasable6: status | 15:30 | |
releasable6 | El_Che, Next release in 3 days and ≈3 hours. Blockers: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues?q=...%9A%A0%22. Changelog for this release was not started yet | ||
El_Che, Details: gist.github.com/a210c9859fd0cde898...6b104c666f | |||
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b2gills | phdphil_: There are a few other golfs that fit well with unicode codegolf.stackexchange.com/search?q=uniname and codegolf.stackexchange.com/search?...147+unival | 16:10 | |
AlexDaniel | or the whole code-golf.io/ | 16:11 | |
Geth | doc: 10480c54a0 | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/faq.pod6 Tweak "As an advanced user" FAQ - zoffixznet/r no longer builds master, but latest release - mention Z-Script to build master/assist development - Make `zef`, `p6doc`, and `ecosystem` links to those resources - Reword the state of rakudo/master (if devs follow normal procedures, the only reason it wouldn't be fully functional is due to a bug; original text makes it seem master's state is a lot more chaotic) |
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synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/faq | ||
tbrowder_ | Zoffix: would running toaster in a chrooted dir be safe enough for you on any host? or would you prefer a vm? | 16:15 | |
Geth | doc: dfd5e0497f | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/faq.pod6 Add missing periods |
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Geth | doc: b16a2f1073 | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/faq.pod6 Updated "Is there CPAN" FAQ - s/Perl 6/Perl 6/ - Remove outdated note about CPAN on mp6.org |
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El_Che | s/Perl 6/Perl 6/ <--- hardcore | 16:22 | |
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Geth | doc: 9686418bd1 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Language/faq.pod6 Use nbsp; (GitHub Web Editor)-- |
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synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/language/faq | ||
AlexDaniel | El_Che: :P user-images.githubusercontent.com/...e7a14e.png | 16:33 | |
Geth | doc: 861985054f | (Will "Coke" Coleda)++ | 2 files remove trailing whitespace |
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pmurias | jnthn: if the native Perl 6 debugging tools end up super awesome I could maybe write a V8 debugging API/Perl 6 debuging API bridge | 16:40 | |
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[Coke] | tbrowder_: what is your github id, plz? | 17:21 | |
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moritz | [Coke]: it's github.com/tbrowder/ | 17:25 | |
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[Coke] | Danke. | 17:28 | |
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El_Che | AlexDaniel: a commit msg to keep :) | 18:09 | |
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timotimo | moritz: do we not want https for hack.p6c.org? | 19:04 | |
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thowe | All sites need https these days. | 19:17 | |
timotimo | i think so, too | 19:18 | |
that's why i was wondering why no https on hack | |||
thowe | I host a lot of web sites... Even the least informed site owners are asking me about it because their users are asking them. | ||
timotimo | all hack serves is user's public_html folders afaik | 19:19 | |
Geth | perl6-lwp-simple: ea9c71ddb4 | (David Warring)++ | 2 files bump version. ensure module and META6.json match |
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perl6-lwp-simple: 0e0663ada2 | (David Warring)++ | t/getstore.t update getstore.t test on opera.com. add rakudo.org www.opera.com now redirects to https and thus fails if the optional IO::Socket::SSL module is not install. Keep it, but skip unless IO::Socket::SSL is installed Also add rakudo.org as a plain http site. |
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thowe | Free, easily deployed certs are upon us. | ||
timotimo | OK, and a collectd | ||
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moritz | timotimo: yes | 19:31 | |
letsencrypt++ | 19:32 | ||
thowe | moritz! You're a guy on here! I just bought both your books :) | 19:34 | |
well, the two Perl6 books I know about anyway, maybe there's more... | |||
masak is fairly sure moritz is a guy on most places ;) | 19:35 | ||
timotimo | moritz: does that mean you'll set it up? | ||
cfa | thowe: perl6book.com/ | 19:39 | |
but yeah, moritz's are great | |||
El_Che | kind of a diva, though | 19:40 | |
moritz | oh my, how did I earn that reputation, El_Che? :-) | 19:41 | |
thowe: let me know how you liked them; feedback is always appreciated | |||
and good ratings on Amazon, of course :-) | |||
El_Che | moritz: when you're on +1 books, you get the vip treatment :) | 19:42 | |
moritz | El_Che: might be a cultural thing, but "diva" sounds fairly negative to me | 19:43 | |
El_Che | moritz: it means you know your worth and whant to be treated as such | ||
(just kidding about the diva thing) | |||
(same meaning here, we don't live that far :) ) | 19:44 | ||
moritz | thought so :-) | ||
Geth | rakudo.org: 4a5cb245a5 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | 6 files Draft binaries model |
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timotimo | elch_e | ||
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masak picures moritz singing "Prima Donna" from Phantom | 19:46 | ||
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moritz | masak: my part is more like "Der Hölle Rache" from Mozart's Magic Flute :-) | 19:47 | |
masak | :P | ||
worksforme | |||
El_Che | I always saw you as the Queen of the Night | ||
(if I recall correctly) | |||
(it may be an other piece) | |||
moritz | El_Che: no, that's the one :-) | 19:48 | |
El_Che | ha, lol | ||
moritz | www.youtube.com/watch?v=CodvdRTX8zo # for anybody too lazy to google it | 19:49 | |
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timotimo | moritzart | 19:51 | |
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thowe | moritz, I just started looking at the Parsing one last night. My other one hasn't arrived yet. | 19:51 | |
I think Amazon ran out(?) | 19:52 | ||
moritz | thowe: sure, I meant once you've finished one of them | ||
thowe | is that a good sign? Are Perl6 books selling well? | ||
moritz | thowe: they dropped the price recently; maybe that's related | ||
thowe | Yeah, I was watching them and then saw the price drop and hit them both. | ||
I also donated to the Learning Perl6 kickstarter, but there are work projects I want to use to slip Perl6 into our code base, so I figured I should read something. | 19:54 | ||
sooner than later, I mean. | |||
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moritz | re selling, Fundamentals sold 54 ebook and 156 softcover copies until end of September 2017, if I read my roalty statement correctly | 19:55 | |
I don't have any data later than that | 19:56 | ||
timotimo | someone gifted me one :3 | ||
moritz | and it was published around 2017-07-20, so that's roughly two months worth of data | 19:57 | |
thowe | If I like the Fundamentals one I will also get one for the office. I've managed to get another guy here into Perl5 and Mojo, and he has an interest in Perl6. The other guy is a Ruby guy, so I think I can garner some interest there as well. | ||
I know my office mate also donated to the kickstarter. | |||
cfa | [Coke]: i see you tweaked some whitespace already but it looks like html/images/Camelia{,-faded}.svg use tabs, so they're failing the doc test suite | 20:00 | |
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cfa | that's more an fyi as i don't really want to mess with the image assets | 20:02 | |
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Zoffix | Those svgs should just be excluded from whitespace tests. They're made by software entirely. | 20:11 | |
[Coke] | Ok. | ||
Zoffix | tbrowder_: no idea what you mean by "safe enough" for me. I don't plan to run anything. | 20:13 | |
Geth | doc: 726df365ee | (Will "Coke" Coleda)++ | 2 files Ignore whitespace in svg files |
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[Coke] | I'll leave my removal of trailing whitespace in there, it can get added back in the next time the files are gen'd. | ||
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Geth | perl6-lwp-simple: f4aa49c156 | (David Warring)++ | t/getstore.t skip tests on rakudo.org - see issue #25 |
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tbrowder_ | i was referring to your warning about stranger code perhaps destroying the users host | 20:19 | |
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cfa | [Coke]: thanks | 20:21 | |
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bisectable6 | titsuki, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=4054ca6) the exit code is 1 and the output is identical as well | ||
titsuki, Output on both points: «Cannot call 'push' on an immutable 'List' in block <unit> at /tmp/Iv1Fba63Ri line 1» | |||
titsuki | bisectable: [1,2,3].clone.push: 1; | ||
bisectable6 | titsuki, On both starting points (old=2015.12 new=4054ca6) the exit code is 0 and the output is identical as well | ||
titsuki, Output on both points: «» | |||
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tyil | anyone making a pi-related post to promote perl 6 on pi day? could be nice to show off how perl can use the pi symbol directly in the source | 21:27 | |
japhb | m: e**(pi*i) # curious | 21:28 | |
camelia | WARNINGS for <tmp>: Useless use of "**" in expression "e**(pi*i)" in sink context (line 1) |
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japhb | m: say e**(pi*i) # curious | ||
camelia | -1+1.22464679914735e-16i | ||
japhb | That took an oddly long time ... | ||
tyil | you dont have to promote the execution time today | ||
though if it runs under 3.14 seconds it would be a plus :p | 21:29 | ||
japhb | m: say e**(pi*i) # curious | ||
camelia | -1+1.22464679914735e-16i | ||
japhb | Ah, so must have been doing something else for a bit | ||
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sergot | ufobat_: ping | 21:46 | |
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timotimo | twitter.com/LearningPerl6/status/9...5149380609 - oops | 22:27 | |
google figured out the most juicy bit we've got to offer | 22:28 | ||
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Geth | doc: ee34834195 | (Zoffix Znet)++ | doc/Type/Signature.pod6 Document coercers don't check result value Closes RT#132980: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132980 |
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synopsebot | Link: doc.perl6.org/type/Signature | ||
RT#132980 [new]: rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=132980 Coercion type apparently does not check the actual type of the coerced value | |||
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Zoffix | timotimo: heh, google set me up :) | 23:34 | |
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Zoffix | You should clearly ban me from #perl6 | 23:34 | |
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Zoffix | Make me more productive | 23:35 | |
timotimo | i'm not so concerned. this was a little lash-out, a single one across many years of no lash-outs | 23:36 | |
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timotimo | also, neither of the two involved in that were newcomers, so technically it doesn't go against the claim | 23:37 | |
not so nice for bystanders, though | |||
Zoffix | Wasn't there also an article last year around the same that said bad things about core devs before I was talking shit? | 23:38 | |
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timotimo | hm, i have a very vague recollection of something | 23:39 | |
Zoffix | Yeah, I shouldn't hang in #perl6. It's not good for greater good. | 23:40 | |
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El_Che | Mea culpa time it seems | 23:43 | |
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