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| Geth | roast/master: 4 commits pushed by (Daniel Lathrop)++, (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ | 07:15 | |
| roast: e71de9edba | (Daniel Lathrop)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | rosettacode/greatest_element_of_a_list.t Update rosettacode link to use #Raku |
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| roast: b59b74a22e | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files Merge pull request #664 from lathropd/lathropd-patch-1 Rosettacode comment updates |
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| JJMerelo | Did you know you can say "no strict" in Raku? Well, you can but nobody has used it, apparently. moritz tells us all in today's 20th anniversary post raku-advent.blog/2020/08/10/rfc-64...t-scoping/ | 07:51 | |
| tellable6 | 2020-08-09T12:15:10Z #raku <ab5tract> JJMerelo can you ping me in private when you get online? In the end I could use a new advent invite to a different email address | ||
| 2020-08-09T20:22:57Z #raku <ab5tract> JJMerelo if you could send the invite to my email in CONTRIBUTORS that would be awesome. if not, no worries -- the post will be live and pre-published for Tuesday mid-morning tomorrow no matter what | |||
| JJMerelo | .tell ab5tract will do. Also, online now. | ||
| tellable6 | JJMerelo, I'll pass your message to ab5tract | ||
| JJMerelo | .tell leont we need your article just about now... Down to one article scheduled | 07:54 | |
| tellable6 | JJMerelo, I'll pass your message to leont | ||
| leont | Sorry about that delay | 07:55 | |
| Will make sure it is finished today | 07:56 | ||
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| JJMerelo | Thanks, leont | 08:15 | |
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| lizmat | m: no strict; $a = 42; say $a | 08:53 | |
| camelia | 42 | ||
| lizmat | m: my int @a; dd @a.min # this feels like an argument for having ().min return Nil | 08:56 | |
| camelia | Inf | ||
| lizmat | JJMerelo: do you need more articles still? | 08:57 | |
| *we | |||
| JJMerelo | Yep, we do. | ||
| lizmat | ok, I'll go through the RFC's again | ||
| JJMerelo | Even if all those that have been committed are submitted on time, we're like 6 short of the full calendar | ||
| I check every morning and have a couple of RFCs lined up, to write something fast if reserve becomes 0, but any collaboration is appreciated. | 08:58 | ||
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| jnthn | What's the deadline? I was thinking to write one. | 09:14 | |
| sena_kun | jnthn, the sooner the better, 20th is the day for last article, I think. | ||
| jnthn, by the way, I guess you saw, but #cro | 09:16 | ||
| lizmat hopes ugexe or nine might want to do one about raku.org/archive/rfc/78.html | 09:18 | ||
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| Kaiepi | what do i need to do to deprecate a method? | 10:18 | |
| i know there's a process for it, but i can't find examples of what i'm thinking of on master | |||
| Geth | nqp: d2a35ac5ac | (Patrick Böker)++ | 6 files Add a HLL::SysConfig class This class acts as a central point where configuration information is stored. The class should only ever be accessed via `nqp::gethllsym('default', 'SysConfig')`. This then allows the class to be overridden by a subclass. |
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| tobs | If anyone else is looking for RFCs to write about, I think #190 is doable. I've been meaning to write a second one, but time is scarce, so feel free to take that. | 10:28 | |
| nine | Build broken: [ 88s] Unhandled exception: Cannot find method 'config' on object of type Perl6::Compiler | 10:31 | |
| [ 88s] at gen/moar/rakudo.nqp:1 (rakudo.moarvm:<mainline>) | |||
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| lizmat | notable6: weekly | 11:44 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, 2 notes: 2020-08-04T18:39:22Z <guifa2>: github.com/alabamenhu/DateTimeTimezones ; 2020-08-08T17:42:31Z <guifa2>: github.com/demostanis/hubtodate/re...s/tag/v0.4 | ||
| lizmat | shouldn't hubtodate be in the ecosystem? Or am I missinge something? | 11:46 | |
| *missing | |||
| notable6: weekly reset | 11:47 | ||
| notable6 | lizmat, Moved existing notes to “weekly_2020-08-10T11:47:03Z” | ||
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| patrickb | o/ | 11:53 | |
| tellable6 | 2020-08-07T14:17:47Z #raku-dev <vrurg> patrickb: Unfortunately, I'm not sure I will have time for this soon. We've got a disaster at work, lost whole data center. | ||
| patrickb | nine: I think you observed breakage because you tried to build with the nqp PR merged, but not the rakudo PR. Those depend on each other and the breakage was expected. Can you retry with both PRs merged? | 11:54 | |
| Geth | rakudo: patrickbkr++ created pull request #3843: Revert "Skip dying tests to unbreak master builds" |
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| rakudo: b5443c28c0 | (Patrick Böker)++ | t/09-moar/01-profilers.t Revert "Skip dying tests to unbreak master builds" This reverts commit 51ea87a3e76324b3c232e26cf5e3e7ea339c17f7. As a PR to fix the profiling was merged, we re-enable the tests now. |
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| lizmat | And another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2020/08/10/2020-...ey-please/ | 12:31 | |
| patrickb | Given we move to a PR only policy, do we want to allow bumping moar and nqp without a PR? (The post bump code is already tested in the MoarVM and NQP CIs respectively). | 12:35 | |
| sena_kun | patrickb, no. | 12:36 | |
| Or, hmmmmmm. | |||
| Hard to say. | |||
| Disregard that 3 lines above. | 12:37 | ||
| patrickb | sena_kun: Maybe some more thinking is needed. I'm currently working on a solution document for prob-solving#206. Questions like these are relevant. | 12:39 | |
| Geth | nqp: 36670be517 | (Patrick Böker)++ | tools/templates/MOAR_REVISION Bump MoarVM This pulls in a fix for regex matching empty strings with the :i modifier. |
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| sena_kun | patrickb++ | 12:41 | |
| Geth | rakudo: a84952fb13 | (Patrick Böker)++ | tools/templates/NQP_REVISION Bump NQP (and thus MoarVM) This pulls in a fix for regex matching the empty string with the :i modifier. |
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| roast: d31d359908 | (Patrick Böker)++ | 2 files Test for empty string match with ignore-case and ignore-mark Related to rakudo/rakudo#3815. |
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| roast: 81fb8c7cbd | (Patrick Böker)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files Merge pull request #655 from patrickbkr/i-m-empty-string-match Test for empty string match with ignore-case and ignore-mark |
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| linkable6 | RAKUDO#3815 [closed]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3815 Regex :i modifier prevents empty string regex to match | ||
| patrickb | .tell tony-o Can you have a look at github.com/tony-o/perl6-pluggable/pull/15 ? | ||
| tellable6 | patrickb, I'll pass your message to tony-o | ||
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| [Coke] | so are we doing PR only on master now? saw a comment in recent scrollback but no discussion. | 16:37 | |
| Geth | roast/master: 5 commits pushed by (Daniel Lathrop)++, (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ | 16:40 | |
| sena_kun | [Coke], there was no official, erm, guildelines or something like this yet, but (I hope) it is likely to become a policy somewhere in the future, so yes, it is preferred. | 16:50 | |
| releasable6, status | |||
| releasable6 | sena_kun, Next release in ≈12 days and ≈2 hours. 2 blockers. Changelog for this release was not started yet | ||
| sena_kun, Details: gist.github.com/917d75e40a52eb5642...5229972d35 | |||
| [Coke] | sena_kun: +1 | 16:58 | |
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| lizmat | [Coke] there was only grumbling when *I* did something to break master, yet there was none when other people broke the release | 17:47 | |
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| lizmat | which was a signal for me to not do any work on core anymore | 17:48 | |
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| [Coke] | I think doing PRs into master makes sense, but it's unfortunate that you were singled out. Sorry about that | 17:53 | |
| Altai-man | lizmat, I think my rant on certain problem-solving issue mentions master breakages by Patick, niner, MasterDuke at the very least. I also remember Jonathan being grumpy for next-dispatcher case implemented by vrurg originally. It is kind of heartbreaking to hear the amount of rant here was too much, because I truly admire your perseverance with this, but also perseverance of the above mentioned folks who do decent deeds because their spirit is | 18:25 | |
| strong enough to do it. | |||
| IME, blaming contributors or being unthankful is next thing to telling them to go away. I still think that if development process can make delivering some quality cheaper for developers, we should go for it. | 18:27 | ||
| vrurg_ | Correct me if I'm wrong, but the most disagreement was around committing directly into master and bypassing PRs with CI checks. | ||
| tellable6 | hey vrurg_, you have a message: gist.github.com/b4b942639b3906ac5f...fb18c43168 | ||
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| vrurg | Altai-man++ | 18:28 | |
| lizmat: BTW, I also had a few unpleasant moments after merging my work on roles. The point is that you're one of the most committing persons around. So, your chances of breaking something are higher than anybody's else. :) | 18:32 | ||
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| AlexDaniel` | lizmat: I don't think the grumbling was ever directed at you, just at the changes you happened to make. Given the amount of work you do it is somewhat inevitable. | 19:37 | |
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| AlexDaniel` | Generally, considering that you tend to work on optimizations and roast is not full enough to cover all of the edge cases, I can see how there can be a perception that you break things. But when I was the release manager you always responsibly worked on fixing the regressions, so I was very happy with your work | 19:39 | |
| but I'd still prefer a PR-based workflow for other reasons | |||
| I'm right now like… 50% into refactoring the build process in whateverable… I hope… That should include the support for webhooks | 19:40 | ||
| this way bots will be able to run stuff here on the channel without a lot of delay (just the time it takes to build rakudo) | |||
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| leont | .tell JJMerelo I'm working on it. Almost done! | 22:51 | |
| tellable6 | leont, I'll pass your message to JJMerelo | ||
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