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Set by lizmat on 22 May 2021.
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jdv lizmat: we can't add a way to "clearerr" or whatever it's called again? 01:11
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freenodecom This channel has been reopened with respect to the communities and new users. The topic is in violation of freenode policy: freenode.net/policies 03:02
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freenodecom The new channel is ##raku-dev 03:02
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lizmat www.reddit.com/r/rakulang/comments..._channels/ 08:24
raydiak just to clarify that it isn't targetted specifically at us: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27286628 08:42
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lizmat raydiak: true, but disturbing nonetheless 09:18
raydiak definitely agree, just adding context. the broader scope makes it even more disturbing to me, for the most part. if it was just us I'd be personally offended but also a little proud tbh 09:26
as it is I was disturbed enough to write a two paragraph comment on it 09:27
(and fwiw, that's saying a lot. it takes nearly an act of God to get me to register a non-essential account these days, much less actually post a comment) 09:35
lizmat raydiak: wow 09:42
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27287864 09:43
raydiak yes that one...his comment is flagged now, but originally had a bunch of nonsense about how they were just cleaning out inactive unmoderated rooms for violating the new rules and he was sorry for the poor communication or some such spineless nonsense 09:45
lizmat I like the idea of Freenode now should be called "Leenode" 09:47
although maybe the Linode people might object :)
sjn that's some feisty language! :-) 09:48
raydiak I was admittedly a little fired up, but I don't regret it :) 09:49
I saw the Leenode thing too! that's pretty funny 09:50
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lizmat our routers finally on a UPS :) 11:46
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Geth nqp/master: 4 commits pushed by (Daniel Green)++, (Jonathan Worthington)++ 13:24
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lizmat logs.liz.nl/raku-dev/index.html now contains merged Freenode / Libera logs for the period 19-25 May 16:57
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Geth rakudo/rakuast: 32a86dc38e | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | 2 files
Get backtracking handling straightened out

  * We failed to correctly attach the modifiers
  * Also didn't respect the :r default		 17:24
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[TuxCM] Rakudo v2021.05-2-g4183cdaf3 (v6.d) on MoarVM 2021.05-5-g8860074fc
csv-ip5xs1.122 - 1.132
csv-ip5xs-209.815 - 10.167
csv-parser27.643 - 27.718
csv-test-xs-200.368 - 0.393
test8.352 - 8.526
test-t2.099 - 2.171
test-t --race0.902 - 0.935
test-t-2036.966 - 38.602
test-t-20 --race10.637 - 11.089
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Xliff FWIW: radiak++ # Epic rant 20:22
MasterDuke lizmat: are you planning on eventually making the logs available near-realtime? 20:23
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AlexDaniel e: say 42 21:45
uhhhh okay
MasterDuke: colabti is now pointing at libera, if you need it 21:46
MasterDuke ah, nice
AlexDaniel MasterDuke: start of the day is from freenode (with very sad messages), but the rest is libera
I didn't expect them to take over raku channels, what in the actual f
MasterDuke: also, something you might be interested in, is using irc through Matrix 21:47
this way no need for logs, follow the conversations from your phone if you want to
matrix.org ↔ libera bridge is meant to be up tomorrow 21:48
MasterDuke doesn't matrix require an actual stand-alone client? i've always used the kiwi web client for irc
AlexDaniel you can use a browser client 21:52
element.io/get-started has “open in your browser” button :)
and it's not just some client, it's the most featureful one 21:53
the desktop version is literally the same thing in electron
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AlexDaniel trying to get the rest of them connected… 21:57
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AlexDaniel there were precisely 10 bots connected though, sounds like a limit of some sort… 21:57
that we didn't have on freenode
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AlexDaniel there we go, I counted 10 again… 21:59
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AlexDaniel aaa no, that's an issue on my side 22:02
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AlexDaniel e: say 42 22:03
evalable6 42
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AlexDaniel all except tellable… 22:11
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AlexDaniel OK all up I hope 22:27
I'm still waiting for the matrix bridge so I won't be online here, but call me if there's something with the bots :D 22:28
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[Coke] AlexDaniel++ 22:33
Thanks.
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AlexDaniel didn't do anything really, just changed the url for the bots to connect to, and pinged nine to ping feb on #irclogger to switch to libera 22:35
let me know if we start to see spam though, I can set up a bot again 22:36
the trick with +mz worked pretty good
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