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🦋 Welcome to the IRC channel of the core developers of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org #rakulang). This channel is logged for the purpose of history keeping about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | log inspection situation still under development | For MoarVM see #moarvm Set by lizmat on 22 May 2021. |
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| releasable6 | Next release in ≈1 day and ≈15 hours. GitHub is down. There are no known blockers. Please log your changes in the ChangeLog: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft | 03:00 | |
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| lizmat | I think there's something weird going on with module loading: gist.github.com/lizmat/8b55f762472...7086f5ee63 | 11:42 | |
| in the first gist (after a re-compile of the setting) it strikes me that it tries to load the .repo-id from places it did *NOT* find the sha | 11:43 | ||
| gist.github.com/lizmat/8b55f762472...xt-L21-L23 | 11:44 | ||
| in the second case, it claims that the repo has changed and that it needs to re-check dependencies | |||
| gist.github.com/lizmat/8b55f762472...xt-L22-L29 | 11:45 | ||
| it does this *every* time | |||
| which implies to me something's amiss and fixing this would help the time spectests take | 11:46 | ||
| (and testing in general) | |||
| finally (probably related), gist.github.com/lizmat/8b55f762472...xt-L30-L31 shows that it actually loads a *different* sha | 11:47 | ||
| nine ugexe ^^ | |||
| vrurg ^^ | |||
| nine | lizmat: trying to load .repo-id files from everywhere is perfectly normal. Maybe you're wondering what these files are in the first place? | 11:52 | |
| lizmat | perhaps, indeed :-) | ||
| I mean, aren't they supposed to come in pairs, residing in the same dir ? | 11:53 | ||
| the sha file, and the sha.repo-id file ? | 11:54 | ||
| nine | It's like this: you've got module A installed in site and have a precomp file for it in site/precomp. How do you know that the precomp file is up to date? On the one side we have to check whether the dependencies' precomp files have changed since. But even if not, what if there is a newer version of one of the dependencies in ~/.raku? | ||
| lizmat | but a precomp file can only change if the sha changes ? | ||
| isn't the precomp file supposed to be immutable for a given sha ? | |||
| nine | So when we load a precomp file we have to look for any newer dependency in every repository of the repo chain. That's epensive, so what we do is we generate a SHA of all repositories' state and record that in the .repo-id files. If the SHA is still the same, we don't have to even check. | 11:55 | |
| So whenever you change the repository chain, by e.g. running with -Ilib, we have to check those dependencies again and if the precomp file is still up to date, we can put a .repo-id file into lib/.precomp/... and know through this that the precomp file from site is still ok | 11:56 | ||
| lizmat | ok, so .repo-sha would have been a better extension? :-) | 11:57 | |
| nine | Maybe. That would bake the implementation into the name. repo-id is about the identity of the repository chain (as in "is it identical to when we did the dependency check?") | 11:58 | |
| A bit of a mathy wording | |||
| lizmat | ok, gotcha yeah | ||
| so what about the changed dependencies ? | 11:59 | ||
| nine | That will need a closer look. Would be nice to find that there is a bug that we can fix to improve module loading performance | ||
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| lizmat | ok, will focus on that then for now :-) | 12:00 | |
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| Geth | rakudo: 9425d0faaf | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | lib/Test.rakumod Test should work with any default version of the language |
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| Geth | rakudo: patrickbkr++ created pull request #4817: Corect usage instructions of precompiled release archives |
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| Geth | rakudo: 29fc65074a | (Patrick Böker)++ | 2 files Corect usage instructions of precompiled release archives The Linux and MacOS instructions contained Windows-y bits. |
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| rakudo: 599e33efd0 | (Patrick Böker)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files Merge pull request #4817 from patrickbkr/correct-bin-rel-instructions Corect usage instructions of precompiled release archives |
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| lizmat | nine: OOC, have you ever used the tools/install-dist.p6 script to install modules that have a "build" section? | 13:15 | |
| what I'm reading in the source atm, is that if it *has* a build, it will exit on successful bulding, and never actually run the install logic ? | |||
| *building | 13:16 | ||
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| ugexe | Inline::Perl5 uses it | 15:22 | |
| yeah looks like you would have to run it once with --build and once without | 15:25 | ||
| i think the exit on success may not have been intentional though | 15:26 | ||
| yeah that must be so, since build-only behavior would have its own path github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/4c...fa1e014a03 | 15:28 | ||
| re changed dependencies, it wouldn't surprise me to find some module getting loaded that has `use lib ...` | 15:30 | ||
| although from the output you posted that isnt the case | 15:32 | ||
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| ugexe | looks like the behavior started between 2020.02.1 and 2020.07 (don't have 2020.05 build locally to test) | 16:11 | |
| the 2020.05 release has like 20 commits labeled as "CompUnit::* optimizations" | |||
| if i were to guess it would be related to those | 16:12 | ||
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| Geth | rakudo: edb8a200fd | (Stefan Seifert)++ | tools/install-dist.raku Remove erroneous early exit from install-dist.raku --only build has its own MAIN sub, so it makes no sense to exit unconditionally after building |
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| nine | lizmat++ ugexe++ | ||
| Geth | rakudo: 6e383c2044 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | tools/install-dist.p6 Same as edb8a200fd for the old script |
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| Geth | Linenoise/main: 44 commits pushed by (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++, (JJ Merelo)++, (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ review: github.com/raku-community-modules/...4b59a38424 |
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| Geth | Linenoise/main: 43725a7b10 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 14 files Changes so far |
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| Geth | Linenoise/main: 086a3e1b81 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files CI tweaks |
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| Linenoise/main: ff5d057eb9 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files More CI tweaks |
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| Linenoise/main: e0483ea522 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | .github/workflows/test.yml Drop windows from test.yml |
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| Linenoise/main: 98094e926b | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | README.md Hopefully fix badges |
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| Linenoise/main: 779df5fa18 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | README.md Fix URLencoding on badge link |
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| Linenoise/main: 44eccfd534 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 3 files Various CI fixes (hopefully) |
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| Linenoise/main: 13d2607ce4 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | Changes 0.1.2 |
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| Geth | nqp: 3f1438e6e4 | (Daniel Green)++ | tools/templates/MOAR_REVISION Bump MoarVM for a NativeCall+mimalloc fix |
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| rakudo: 200579f702 | Coke++ | docs/windows.md Stop telling users to avoid mimalloc github.com/MoarVM/MoarVM/pull/1686 resolved the issue |
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| rakudo: 8d284d8c1e | (Daniel Green)++ | tools/templates/NQP_REVISION Bump NQP for a NativeCall+mimalloc fix |
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| releasable6 | Next release in ≈19 hours. GitHub is down. There are no known blockers. Please log your changes in the ChangeLog: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft | 23:00 | |
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