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🦋 Welcome to the IRC channel of the core developers of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org #rakulang). This channel is logged for the purpose of history keeping about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | log inspection situation still under development | For MoarVM see #moarvm Set by lizmat on 22 May 2021. |
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| vrurg | .tell nine I have located the problem and it is about serialization, after all. nqp::atomicbindattr breaks it. I have updated github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/4917, so you could check out Stash.merge-symbols method if you wish. | 02:40 | |
| tellable6 | vrurg, I'll pass your message to nine | ||
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| lizmat | Files=1353, Tests=117195, 293 wallclock secs (36.06 usr 10.16 sys + 4075.68 cusr 342.00 csys = 4463.90 CPU) | 07:43 | |
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| lizmat | hmmm... this is getting... weird | 09:58 | |
| this morning github.com/rakudo/rakudo/pull/4919 wouldn't compile for me | |||
| "New type Block for List is not a mixin type" | |||
| the fix to get it to compile again? add an empty line somewhere in src/core.c/io_operators | 09:59 | ||
| Geth | rakudo/lizmat-simplify-stdhandle-setup: 5d2ace5a17 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/io_operators.pm6 Lose unnnecessary IO::ArgFiles stub |
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| gfldex | I just had a marketing idea: Raku doesn't reinvent the wheel. We just take all the wheel of other languages, so that your program can't possibly fall over. Like this: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/com...acycle.jpg | 10:48 | |
| lizmat | hmmm... not sure that's sending the right message :-) | 10:50 | |
| gfldex | I couldn't fine a more modern picture yet, but will keep looking. | 10:51 | |
| I do believe it's a nice gag to start a talk or lecture. | |||
| nine | vrurg: can you please test this patch? gist.github.com/niner/f1f523c4b146...be067c4496 | 12:03 | |
| tellable6 | hey nine, you have a message: gist.github.com/3857bad75524f92132...63174a58f7 | ||
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| gfldex | Joking aside, with slangs our goals align with the Rights-To-Repair-movement. So a capable Rakoon could achieve something like this: img.izismile.com/img/img12/2019051...640_06.jpg | 13:16 | |
| vrurg | nine: gives a weird error. Left a comment on the gist. | 13:19 | |
| Ah, ok, you forgot a block. | 13:20 | ||
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| vrurg | nine: make test, make spectest are now good with nqp::atomicbindattr in merge-symbols. Thanks! | 13:28 | |
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| Voldenet | "right to repair" aligns with anything that's open source though | 13:34 | |
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| Voldenet | maybe not anything because of patent trolls, but you get the idea | 13:35 | |
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| vrurg | nine: with the patch my test script is passing more than 3600 times in a row without a failure. Never seen that many repetitions before! | 18:04 | |
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| nine | vrurg: wooohoo Ö= | 19:09 | |
| :) | |||
| vrurg is now waiting for NQP bump. | 19:11 | ||
| BTW, stopped at 4460 repetitions. It rather means that require and stash in general are now thread safe in at least the tested scenario. | 19:12 | ||
| nine: it looks like casattr_o would need the same patch too. | 19:18 | ||
| nine | Probably other ops as well. I didn't do a comprehensive check. Just wanted to test this idea first | 19:19 | |
| lizmat | vrurg: please continue your work on CURFS: will rework my branch on top of your work | 19:27 | |
| well, actually not a branch yet, just some code in git stash :-) | 19:28 | ||
| vrurg | lizmat: I'm basically done. For the moment just wanna check out some details, but otherwise I don't see any more races in it. | ||
| lizmat | cool! | 19:29 | |
| vrurg | The one thing which worries me at the moment is: could it be that $spec in method need and $file.Str in method load would be the same? | 19:34 | |
| lizmat | and still intended to be different ? | 19:38 | |
| I guess that could be fixed by adding using the WHICH of the CompUnit::DependencySpecification ? | 19:40 | ||
| s/adding// | 19:41 | ||
| vrurg | No, to be the same. The point is that `need` currently installs a Promise when there is a concurrent request for the same spec. If it can be the same then load must also install/respect Promises. | 19:42 | |
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| Geth | rakudo/lizmat-simplify-stdhandle-setup: 219bbea6b7 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/io_operators.pm6 Hopefully fix the weird segfault on the JVM |
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| lizmat | vrurg : I guess :-) | 20:18 | |
| vrurg | lizmat: "Guess it can", or "guess it can't"? :) | 20:19 | |
| japhb | m: enum It < can't can >; dd my \Guess = can|can't; | 20:32 | |
| camelia | any(It::can, It::can't) | ||
| japhb | That's interesting. I wasn't expecting dd to not show the name of a sigilless | 20:33 | |
| vrurg | japhb: they're actually symbols. | 20:44 | |
| japhb | Interesting. I guess I never looked behind the curtain on that one. | 20:45 | |
| Does snap into the mental model better though. | |||
| vrurg | Think of it as a key in symbol table which is bound directly to the value. No container mediator which can tell you its name. | 20:46 | |
| So, basically, dd gets the plain junction. | |||
| japhb | Yeah, makes sense to me. | 20:50 | |
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| lizmat | vrurg: it can | 21:58 | |
| vrurg | lizmat: ok, thanks. | 22:11 | |
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