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| Xliff | MasterDuke: Don't know. Didn't know about it until you mentioned it. | 00:41 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Xliff | I've been stuck in the weeds for hours with no solution. | 00:41 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Xliff | MasterDuke: Thanks for letting me know, though! :) | 00:42 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Xliff | gist.github.com/Xliff/b27f77e33539...9c28c4ed68 <- Help, please? | 08:34 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| nine | Xliff: yes, runtime is too late. Also this sounds like a question better suited for #raku | 08:36 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| lizmat | Files=1336, Tests=113586, 223 wallclock secs (29.62 usr 8.48 sys + 3102.68 cusr 288.28 csys = 3429.06 CPU) | 08:57 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Xliff | nine: Thanks. I've posted this twice in raku and no one responded. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| So I would have to implement a run-time version of handles, then? | 08:58 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| nwc10 | Is there an easy Rakudo way to generate the sort of information that is in: | 09:21 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| This is perl 5, version 16, subversion 3 (v5.16.3) built for ppc64-linux-thread-multi | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| particularly the architecture thingy (versions are boring) | 09:22 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| alhgough I guess that Perl 5 has more "fun" in its architecture, because "thread" and "multi" are both Configure-time choices | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| whereas MoarVM is MoarVM is MoarVM | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| lizmat | nwc10: perhaps somewhere in say .key ~ ": " ~ .value for $*VM.config.pairs.sort ? | 09:29 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| nwc10 | $*VM.config.<osvers> seems to be the most useful | 09:31 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| OK, interesting. | 09:32 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| nothing in $*VM.config seems to be able to report whether MoarVM is built with a 32 or 64 bit ABI | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| that's probably actually a bug. | 09:33 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| because it's possible to build either on (at least) x86_64, ppc64 and sparc64 (And I assume also mips64 and aarch64) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| and we have no way of filtering user bug reports based on which way someone else built their MoarVM | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| in that, I have build rakdudo on both 3.10.0-957.27.2.el7.ppc64 and 3.10.0-957.27.2.el7.ppc64 :-) | 09:35 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| spot the difference. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| and, even more WTF - I've built it for: 4.19.0 | 09:40 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| (ooh, and my local machine reports 4.9.0) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I'm not even sure *where* theose numbers are coming from. I guess I should go did, as they are considerably LTA | 09:41 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| MasterDuke | nwc10: does the `-V` option to raku show anything useful? | 10:21 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| lizmat | MasterDuke: afaik, that just dumps $*VM.config | 10:22 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| nine | We probably also want to report whether rakudo is build relocatably | 10:43 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Geth | rakudo: lizmat++ created pull request #3907: Parallel module install |
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| Geth | ¦ problem-solving: tbrowder assigned to rba Issue Add a Raku blog site as "blogs.raku.org" github.com/Raku/problem-solving/issues/231 | 11:52 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ¦ problem-solving: lizmat unassigned from rba Issue Add a Raku blog site as "blogs.raku.org" github.com/Raku/problem-solving/issues/231 | 11:54 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Kaiepi | with my dns pr, i find myself having to go back and redo chunks of changes every now and then when i change my mind about how parts of it should work, which wastes a lot of time | 12:45 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| i skimmed over jnthn++'s rakuast pr and noticed he hardly does anything like this though... are there things you guys do to avoid this? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ugexe | m: say $*KERNEL.arch | 12:57 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| tellable6 | 2020-09-01T14:05:54Z #raku <[Coke]> ugexe do you accept tony-o's nomination, btw? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| MasterDuke | Kaiepi: i often change stuff too, but it isn't always visible because i may do a lot of local rebasing/merging/deleting/etc commits before pushing | 13:24 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| nine | Kaiepi: from what I know jnthn takes much time to think things through before starting with the implementation. See for example his design documents for the new dispatching mechanism in MoarVM | 13:38 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Personally I have two distinct modes of operation, depending on my familiarity with the subject. When designing an API I also like to take much time beforehand, preferrably away from the keyboard to get at a good design. This is for an area where I know most of what's involved. | 13:42 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| The other way is a kind of exploratory implementation, where I discover mostly through trial and error. That's for areas where I lack most of the expertise like "let's jump in and fix BEGIN time EVAL" | 13:43 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| In the latter case git rebase -i is my best friend :) | 13:44 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Geth | rakudo/rakuast: 926e02904c | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | 4 files RakuAST handling of dotty infixen (`.`, `.=`) This handles the cases where they are parsed as infixes. |
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| lizmat | and another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2020/09/07/2020-...ime-again/ | 21:15 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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