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[Coke] | Util: sorry - we skipped a meeting, still doing well communicating with irc/github, so didn't plan on a regularly scheduled meeting going forward, but probably only removed the one from the list. | 12:17 | |
Util: thank you for showing up, good to see you again! | |||
(well, see you on irc. :) | |||
I | 12:18 | ||
lizmat | [Coke]: fwiw, I feel it's bad to skip a meeting before a rhythm has really been ingrained in all team members | 12:21 | |
if there's one thing I learned from organizing Perl Monger meetings, it's regularity | 12:22 | ||
[Coke] | I appreciate that. My intention was not to have them ongoing forever. But if folks find them useful, we can keep them. | 12:23 | |
lizmat | well, lacking any in person events, I think the online meetups have their value | 12:24 | |
[Coke] | (I thought we needed a kickstart to get everyone on the same page; and then we had a surprise new web site anyway) | ||
lizmat | well, I think there's still a lot to do, is there not ? | 12:35 | |
keeping momentum is also important I think | 12:36 | ||
coleman | Call me old school, but I do think sub-team coordination would be assisted by a real email mailing list | 15:37 | |
That's not trivial, though. lizmat: what's been your experience w/ perl6/raku mailing lists in the past? don't we have some that are active? | 15:38 | ||
Build is green now, btw | |||
This should reflect the main branches: docs-dev.raku.org/ | 15:39 | ||
If not, something else is goofy | |||
lizmat | re mailing list: you mean, with an archive and so ? | 15:41 | |
the currently active user mailinglist is is still not renamed, and runs on the Perl NOC infra | 15:42 | ||
coleman | An archive, yea. And generally powered by mailing list software with self-service sub/unsub and moderation features | 15:43 | |
I'm not saying we should try and implement that right now, because it's a lot of work. | 15:44 | ||
lizmat | indeed... :-( | ||
fwiw, this channel *is* being logged | 15:45 | ||
and is searchable: irclogs.raku.org/raku-doc/live.html | |||
coleman | Yes, that's true. And chat is a necessary community space, especially for new people. But it is also nice to have a place for long-form writing. It can encourage more coherent thinking (At least for me :) ) | 15:47 | |
Anyways, we aren't lacking in communication right now. Richard emailed me a few times over the weekend and I pushed him to move that into GitHub issues so that others can see, comment, and help. | |||
[Coke] | Thank you. I had been trying to do the same with him the last time he had a bunch of emails. | 15:52 | |
coleman: actually, asking *you* about setting up a mailing list was on my list. ... Is google groups still a thing? | 15:57 | ||
coleman | Google groups is still a thing, but I don't think it serves us well over the long term | 16:03 | |
Mostly because my experience with how they do membership and permissions (in a corporate setting) has soured me on them. | 16:04 | ||
[Coke] | are their other hosted solutions we could consider? Or would we be better off self-hosting? (higher bar, which is why we piggybacked off the perl5 team at the beginning) | ||
coleman | I'm sure there are hosted solutions. I'd love to find one that respects EU regulations and isn't just repackaged GNU mailman. :D | 16:05 | |
What's interesting about self-hosting is that a lot of venerable email software is perl. Mailing list software in Raku could be a "killer app" | 16:06 | ||
[Coke] | Dogfooding is nice, but. | 16:07 | |
coleman | Exactly. | ||
We don't need to make any moves right now, though. | 16:08 | ||
[Coke] | As with many things, I'm happy to use the p5 stuff and think of it as semi-dogfooding. | ||
Right now, the closest thing we have is github discussions for long form convos, which I'm OK with. | 16:09 | ||
Geth | doc-website/main: dc4c2f34f8 | (Richard Hainsworth)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META6.json bump Collection version cf issue #236 (#237) v0.4.6 contains reporting of the source being processed when a error occurs. |
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coleman | If we wanted to try another free thing, we could create a SourceHut mailing list. That's a "proper" mailing list and the company is based out of Amsterdam, I believe. | 16:12 | |
Worth a look. Not ideal, though. | 16:13 | ||
I gotta go back to dayjob. Adios. | |||
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