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| Xliff | nine: I know I have brought this up earlier, but was there a reason why raku can't use an assumed ~/.raku/precomp directory instead of basing things on -I, and would it be possible to set it via environment var? | 14:05 | |
| tellable6 | 2024-05-11T09:27:44Z #raku-dev <lizmat> Xliff_: a git clone tells me: | ||
| Xliff | lizmat: Message received. Will fix! Thanks! | 14:16 | |
| coleman | what is the difference between precomp and RAKU_LIB? | 14:20 | |
| [Coke] | raku_lib is where to search. precomp is "for this particular thing you're trying to use, let me create a bytecode version of it" | 14:23 | |
| then next time you can load the bytecode, saving some compile time. | 14:24 | ||
| (only done for modules, not scripts) | |||
| lizmat | actually, I think scripts are also precompiled nowadays? ugexe ? | 14:26 | |
| Xliff | So wait. RAKU_LIB is the environment var that determines where .precomp lives? | 14:27 | |
| [Coke] | er, also, isn't it RAKULIB (no underscore?) | 14:35 | |
| lizmat | "RAKUDOLIB and RAKULIB append a comma-delimited list of paths to the search list for modules" | 14:36 | |
| [Coke] | and I don't believe those are the same thing xliff. I think RAKULIB is where to search for installed code, not which precomp dir to use. | ||
| what's the bot to search released modules for a code snippet? | 14:44 | ||
| ugexe | where .precomp lives is an implementation detail of whatever repository gets used to load some module | 14:45 | |
| scripts are not precompiled | 14:46 | ||
| i tried to get scripts precompiling at the PTS in England I think, but never managed to get it to work | 14:47 | ||
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| ugexe | github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/f4...7a14df93de from the precompile-installed-scripts branch | 14:51 | |
| lizmat | ugexe++ TIL | 14:57 | |
| Xliff | lizmat: GLib v0.0.7 released with URI Uri issue resolved | 15:02 | |
| lizmat | Xliff++ | 15:03 | |
| nine | Xliff: just prepend the desired precomp storage to the repository list: raku -I/path/to/precomps -Ilib ... | 15:07 | |
| Xliff | nine: Ah. That will do! Thanks | 15:13 | |
| antononcube | Where -- in what name space -- packages for particular types of modeling (say, epidemiological) are placed? I think "Math::" is more generic functionalities, like, integration or polynomial manipulation. | 15:18 | |
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| _grenzo | um....Science? | 17:18 | |
| or if it's all modelling...Model? | 17:19 | ||
| lizmat | and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2024/05/13/2024-...nnouncing/ | 17:23 | |
| sjn reads RWN \o/ # lizmat++ | 17:24 | ||
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| tbrowder | lizmat: ref CSV::Table, that was new, v0.0.1 | 18:07 | |
| lizmat | indeed it is! | 18:08 | |
| Oops | |||
| Fixed, thanks for the headsup! | 18:09 | ||
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| ab5tract | tbrowder: congrats on the release! | 18:16 | |
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| oogle | is there a module I can import to unicode symbolic logic operators or can I make them with infix somehow? | 18:38 | |
| sub infix:<∧> ($n, $b) { | 18:39 | ||
| return ($n and $b); | |||
| } | |||
| for example | |||
| sub infix:<∨> ($n, $b) { | |||
| return ($n or $b); | |||
| } | |||
| etc | 18:40 | ||
| [Coke] | many are already builtin: docs.raku.org/language/unicode_ascii | 18:41 | |
| lizmat | m: my constant &infix:<∧> = &infix:<and>; dd 42 ∧ 666 | ||
| camelia | 666 | ||
| lizmat | if it's about renaming ops | 18:42 | |
| oogle | ok great | ||
| lizmat thanks | 18:43 | ||
| lizmat | mind you: in the case && and || or you will lose short-circuiting | 18:44 | |
| m: my constant &infix:<∧> = &infix:<and>; dd 0 ∧ (say "foo") | 18:45 | ||
| camelia | foo 0 |
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| lizmat | m: dd 0 and (say "foo") | ||
| camelia | 0 | ||
| oogle | lizmat: I had seen code like this: | 18:46 | |
| multi sub prefix:<¬> ($n) { | |||
| return not $n; | |||
| } | |||
| lizmat | yeah, that works too, but add another level of indirection | 18:47 | |
| oogle | (and lists of infix equiivalents) | ||
| OK | |||
| lizmat | m: my constant &prefix:<¬> = &prefix:<not>; say ¬True | 18:48 | |
| camelia | False | ||
| lizmat | m: my constant &prefix:<¬> = &prefix:<not>; dd &prefix:<¬> | ||
| camelia | Mu prefix:<not> = proto sub prefix:<not> (Mu $, *%) {*} | ||
| lizmat | note that it really is just an alias | 18:49 | |
| oogle | It was a while ago (before raku rename) but someone had a repl with an exhaustive set of logic symbols defined and it was fun seeing perl6 handle it .. they even had some error messages that were straight out a symbolic logic text | 18:50 | |
| lizmat | well, if that list exists somewhere still, it could be turned into a module indeed | ||
| oogle | lizmat yeah would be cool if it were really well done (might take a a long time) the one I saw seemed simple toy application but had messages like "A statement cannot be true & false at the same time according to the law of non-contradiction". I remember asking if it written in scheme or something and they said "No. In perl. Version *6*". | 18:56 | |
| tbrowder | ab5tract: thanks! i’m sure it has warts, but i’m pretty pleased with it | ||
| lizmat | oogle: did you ask on an IRC channel? | 18:57 | |
| oogle | is there another one? | 18:58 | |
| oh #raku-beginners | |||
| no I saw it demoed by some geeky philopsophers | 18:59 | ||
| lizmat | there are quite a few #raku- channels | ||
| oogle: irclogs.raku.org/ is where you can search them | 19:00 | ||
| Geth | raku.org/hankache-patch-1: 2379c096f4 | (Naoum Hankache)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | source/whatever/index.html Add Notepad++ to list of IDEs |
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| oogle | lizmat: nice! cheers | ||
| Geth | raku.org: hankache++ created pull request #222: Add Notepad++ to list of IDEs |
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| Geth | raku.org: 995c614971 | (Naoum Hankache)++ (committed by Will Coleda) | source/whatever/index.html Add Notepad++ to list of IDEs |
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| oogle | raku & rust are in a heated competition re: error messages ... and the results beeyootiful | 19:20 | |
| beyond words | 19:21 | ||
| thanks y'all | 19:22 | ||
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| antononcube | Well, modeling and simulation. | 19:31 | |
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| librasteve | Model++ | 21:04 | |
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| antononcube | Ok. I will think about using "Model::" . | 23:48 | |
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